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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 05 2011 14:05 GMT
#1661
It does when I'm playing!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 05 2011 16:04 GMT
#1662
Happy birfday Ace.
Life can only kill you once.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 16:13:05
March 05 2011 16:12 GMT
#1663
happy birthday Ace AND LSB!
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 05 2011 16:35 GMT
#1664
@Ser Apsi

You're an idiot an a fool if you don't see the point in lynching LSB and how it takes precedence over Kev. He has acted scummy all game and is now irrevocably tied to LA. If LSB flips vigi than it's 100% confirmed that LA is vet since I very much doubt that a medic protected him/ If LSB flips red than LA is probably red as well along with anyone that DIDN'T want to vote LSB if he flips red.

I welcome any analysis on my posting, I've been actively scum hunting both in game and out. This whole game you've been piggybacking off foolishness' analysis, write your damn own. Plus that huge picture is annoying as fuck, use a smaller picture please.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 05 2011 17:10 GMT
#1665
im not scum
im townie
the one with the green text
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 05 2011 17:18 GMT
#1666
Keep in mind Jbright, when posed with the alternative of Icemac, got almost no support day 2. Yet suddenly when he was up against the alternative of Seraph, he got a lot more questionable voters with bs reasons and we very narrowly lynched Seraph.


Also this is bullshit and a blatant misrepresentation of the facts of that day. On Day 2 we were focused on LSB/Barundar/Icemac with Foolishness coming in two hours before the vote ended to suggest LD. I don't remember Jbright ever entering into the conversation as a legitimate alternative.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 05 2011 17:22 GMT
#1667
I have work tonight and will get home just after 10pm. If meapak can't make the night post I will do it, but for fairness all votes after 10pm will not be counted. Meapak is usually good about this stuff though, I am just talking worst case scenario
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 05 2011 18:01 GMT
#1668
On March 06 2011 02:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I have work tonight and will get home just after 10pm. If meapak can't make the night post I will do it, but for fairness all votes after 10pm will not be counted. Meapak is usually good about this stuff though, I am just talking worst case scenario

You might want to PM him instead of me.
My night post would be extremely biased.
Life can only kill you once.
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 05 2011 18:11 GMT
#1669
On March 06 2011 02:10 kevconsim wrote:
im not scum
im townie
the one with the green text

I know you are new here, and I actually believe you are a part of the village... a newer part of the village...

There is a specific term for a player like that, but I'm not going to dip into Ad Hominem if I can help it, because I've done that way too much in my life, and it doesn't help anything!

The thing is, saying "I'm town!" is great and all, but anyone can do it. If you truly are town, it is best to stay in the woodworks, so to speak. What I mean is this:
If you are just a green townie, with no abilities in the night, why would scum kill you?

I'm being hypocritical here, I know, but that is why I'm sort of getting onto you about this. If you are a cop or something, typing this, I'm going to pat you on the back. Do you want to know why? Because if you are not scum, you have done a great job convincing everyone you aren't a power role, with an ability in the night. You are very, very, very unlikely to get killed in the night by scum. A town vig? a possibility, and far greater than the chances scum will kill you, regardless of what side you are on.

I'm not saying it is good to claim green if you are a cop. It is definitely good to claim green if you are a paramedic, though. It isn't bad to claim being a cop as a green, sometimes, either... or even a paramedic if you're up for lynch... but that is iffy. It depends on the level of play in the game. If you're in an invite only game, where there is no way the doctor will counterclaim, then that wouldn't be as lame as if you did it in this game, because in this game if you made that claim then it would be hard to defend what was going on in your brain!
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
March 05 2011 18:36 GMT
#1670
God damn busy this weekend. Sorry.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
March 05 2011 18:40 GMT
#1671
LD you didnt put ur vote in both just letting you know
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 05 2011 19:51 GMT
#1672
Happy Birthday LSB and Ace!!!

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 05 2011 19:52 GMT
#1673
I just want to say that this is win win for town, if LSB is red then we have the rest of the red team. If LSB is vigi then we have pretty much a confirmed townie and we can all claim if we decide that's the wisest choice and work from there. If DT/cops are still alive we can narrow down the suspects like whoa.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 05 2011 20:47 GMT
#1674
On March 06 2011 04:52 chaoser wrote:
I just want to say that this is win win for town, if LSB is red then we have the rest of the red team. If LSB is vigi then we have pretty much a confirmed townie and we can all claim if we decide that's the wisest choice and work from there. If DT/cops are still alive we can narrow down the suspects like whoa.

Lemme rain on your collective parades.

1. LSB is town
2. LSB is vigi.
3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA.
4. I am speaking for one of our medics.
5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle.
6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand.
7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA.
8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA.
9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer.
10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness.
!!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names.

There are 2 ways you guys can confirm some of this.

1 - Continue with you lynch of LSB. He is a vigi. This will provide absolutely no info on LA. Will only let you know that I'm not bullshitting you.
2 - Lynch me. You get a vanilla townie. And no other useful information.

Both options are anti-town. We need all the townies we can get no matter if they are lucid or not.

Lynch Chaoser.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 05 2011 20:49 GMT
#1675
##UNVOTE: kevconsim
##VOTE: chaoser
Life can only kill you once.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 05 2011 20:55 GMT
#1676


1. LSB is town
2. LSB is vigi.
3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA.
4. I am speaking for one of our medics.
5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle.
6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand.
7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA.
8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA.
9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer.
10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness.
!!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names.

1.) right...
2.) ok...
3.) then why the hell did he lie about it? and why bum? EXPLAIN!!!
4.) ok...
5.) and why didn't he claim that this morning, it would have been nice to know?
6.) Then I want an explanation out of him, PM will suffice
7.) LSB believes alot of strange stuff
8.) ok...
9.) fine, I can accept that, I don't know how much of your circle is imaginary though.
10.) really now, that dosn't clear them at all though, being in a circle with someone means very little.
11.) and this list is?

this proves nothing to me you provide no evidence, and no backup after LSB playing the way he is i'm not going to just take your word for it jackal sorry.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 05 2011 20:59 GMT
#1677
We had a bet on who would kick this to the curb first. I lost. Our medic won.
Life can only kill you once.
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
March 05 2011 21:06 GMT
#1678
On March 06 2011 01:35 chaoser wrote:
@Ser Apsi

You're an idiot an a fool if you don't see the point in lynching LSB and how it takes precedence over Kev. He has acted scummy all game and is now irrevocably tied to LA. If LSB flips vigi than it's 100% confirmed that LA is vet since I very much doubt that a medic protected him/ If LSB flips red than LA is probably red as well along with anyone that DIDN'T want to vote LSB if he flips red.

I welcome any analysis on my posting, I've been actively scum hunting both in game and out. This whole game you've been piggybacking off foolishness' analysis, write your damn own. Plus that huge picture is annoying as fuck, use a smaller picture please.


I piggybacking off foolishness? Puh LEAZE. Along with deconduo I was the original impetus on annul, which, guess what, foolishness jumped on later. You are just scared, scum. You and your buddies jumped on jbright to save Seraph. We all know jbright is innocent after how close that lynch was. Now you and your buddies are jumping on LA and LSB. Gee, I wonder what they are.

The analysis on you is very simple. It all comes down to 1 post that could not have been made by a non-scum. You may try, but you cannot refute this. Squirm as much as you like scumbo.

On February 25 2011 01:45 chaoser wrote:
Man, finally all rested. I haven't fully read all of the thread but I'll get my thoughts out of the way first.

Firstly, Annul:

At present, annul is bad for town whether he's mafia or not...I mean there's not helping town and there's being detrimental to town. Making the thread into a heated mud slinging battle=not very good atmosphere to be catching red in. Promoting discussion is fine, promoting flaming is not. It just lets mafia blend in and take sides and have an easy way of "contributing to discussion". I know he can do better too, it's just a question of why isn't he i guess. I hate policy lynches but if it keeps going this way...

I'm willing to have him as a fall back lynch if no one else comes up.

That being said, icemac, what's up not analyzing? Whether it's "fluff" or not (I don't really think the topics people are discussing are fluff) there's a lot to talk about. You can talk about the situation in general (why did this convo pop up? if this is mafia talking why would they do this? etc. etc,) Or you can even explain why it's fluff. You kinda just say it's fluff and bounce.

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How the heck am I red? Just because I'm smart enough to take a bipartisan approach to day 1 and not listen to over analysis and red-analysis doesn't mean I'm scum playing the middle of the road.


I actually use to play this way too cause I figured I needed more info before making a call, but making a call by itself is helpful for town. When we look back on past events, we can say, ah ha, this is where he stood in the situation, given what's happened so far, i think he's town/mafia/etc. It's like leaving a mark for all to see. As opposed to saying nothing about anything and then you don't leave ANY mark. How is town suppose to read you if you're just not leaving a mark? By thinking hmm why didn't he want to leave a mark...SCUMMM. See, not helpful at all.

Gryffindor:

I don't know if he lied or not. Maybe it was just a misunderstanding in PMs where he thought RoL/MK said something they didn't actually mean. Unless RoL says in thread he 100% lied, I'm going to read it as such. His list, I think, is just him giving into popular sentiment. I don't think it points to him as being red, more like he's seeing that it COULD be beneficial.

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Also, how is it that you can't correlate my idea with his cell idea? Just because we have cells scumhunting, doesn't mean we can't PM a confirmed on d2 or d3. I do not see how it is black vs white, when there is in fact a lot of room for gray area.


This statement by him is pretty good, I agree that both can be combined if needed. Makes me think he's green cause he's willing to compromise instead of just toeing the line which is much easier to do as mafia than to reach across the aisle.


This was made when the annul lynch was gaining a little steam but not nearly decisive.

1. The guilty part is you trying to subtly deflect the annul lynch, while hiding that you are trying to do that. This isn't " i dont think annul is a good lynch," which anyone mafia or town could say. This is "i secretly dont want to lynch annul but i dont want you to know that so im going to but maybe just maybe we can have him as a fallback option aka if my team cant get another suspect up there." You try to dodge or downplay the real accusations against annul and insist "he can do better" while still making it look like you are part of the good guy bandwagon while being prepared to hop off as soon as another candidate got some votes. I don't need to read any other posts by you. No townie could possibly make this post.

2. Funny part is, you are doing the exact same thing you are putting doubt on icemac for: not having a strong and decisive opinion. Oops!

3 Here is the kicker. After all the bullshit you say about being decisive, after all the suspicion and doubt you put on all these dumb townies throughout the game, you don't say a damn word about cubedin (might as well air all the dirty laundry now) or kevconsim. Cubedin has made multiple 8 paragraph posts which boil down to "I dont know anything and dont have a real opinion about anyone," while nobody in the game has successfully forced a strong opinion out of kevconsim despite multiple thread and pm attempts. And GUESS WHO FELL ONTO THE JBRIGHT TRAP? Chaoser, cubedin, kevconsim. It's just a coincidence right!??!? RIGHT???? No fucking way scumbo.

+ Show Spoiler [cubedin and kev examples] +


Just some examples look at their post history to see how hilarious this is.
On February 28 2011 04:46 CubEdIn wrote:
Hi again peoples.

Here's a crappy cell-phone pic of yesterday!
+ Show Spoiler +

I GOT TO SEE SNOW!
[image loading]


Now, to the issues at hand.
Obviously, the most pressing issue is LSB vs Barundar.
LSB:
Mostly, the most trouble I have with this is that, if Barundar is right, we have to kill someone who really pushed a red on day 1. That's all.
We shouldn't really do this. Here is why:
- If LSB is town, and he's as good as people say he is, then he will be targeted by mafia, sooner or later.
- If LSB is red, he already outed a team-mate. If mafia is as ballsy as Barundar says, then they might do something equally strange in order to clear LSB. In which case, it spells good for town.

So I have no idea why so many people are going along with this.
At least give LSB one-two more days and see how the game goes. You can't possibly want one of the more experienced players to die, after pushing a red, based entirely on "he could have played this exactly the same if he was red". True, but that's not a convincing argument. Not for me anyway.

There are just two things that make me not dismiss this completely:
1. Harry Potter Mafia, when LSB seemed very, very pro-town in the thread, and he was scum. It can be said that he was Snape so he might have known he was ultimately town-aligned, but at the time he was in our scum team, yet he played very pro-town in the thread (or at least make it seem that way). This could be a more advanced version of that.
2. The "once he flips red" made it seem extremely confident. Which is a bit weird since it was day one. I don't think it's healthy for anyone to be that confident in day 1.

Barundar:
I don't know if Barundar is red or town, but I honestly don't think it is something that mafia would do.
Let's think for a second here, take what Barundar said:
The thing is, when someone plays as mafia, it’s hard to do analysis because you know that the person who you are doing analysis is town, so you have to make up stuff.
It's kinda hard to make up so much stuff just to try and sink LSB, and even if you do (say, Barundar is red and LSB is town), then it doesn't make any sense because Barundar would die next night for sure, so it would basically be two mafia down just to kill LSB.

So if he is red (and they want LSB dead), it's just a really bad move, because once LSB flips town, he's dead.
If he's town, it's an even worse move, because if LSB is town, then Barundar will most likely get lynched as well, and you will have wasted two lynches, and two of the better players and get absolutely nowhere.

So here's what I'm saying:
1. Think really well about who to vote for.
2. FoS on those who voted on LSB with saying "oh wow that was a good analysis" but didn't really bother to THINK about it and the other possiblities and the outcomes. I'm sure there's at least a few mafia among them who were oh-so-glad an experienced townie is being targeted.
Here are a few examples:
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On February 28 2011 00:23 chaoser wrote:
Epic post dude....I'mma put my vote on him cause there's no fucking way mafia would spend that much time crafting a post like that spanning 3 parts...

Vote: LSB

Yeah, that's a good freaking reason. Why would you bother thinking for yourself when someone posted a 3-part-post? No mafia writes that much!

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On February 28 2011 00:51 OriginalName wrote:
I don't think mafia is beyond bussing d1 at all and I'm not prepared to let them succed for it HOWEVER we have to realize that if we get this wrong we are clearly on the wrong track and.

Mafia probably just got some lucky snipes
Probably has one experience player and a load of non-experienced players
If anything I think the bus was instigated by the random vote on annul about mid way through d1
I like risks however so I think the Bus is definitly plaisable

Therefore

##Vote LSB

This seems scummiest to me:
"mafia probably just got some lucky snipes" - something of a 'reverse-gloating', being happy with the kills but trying to look very pro-town by saying almost nothing.
"Probably has one experience player and a load of non-experienced players" - umm, yeah, we can tell that based on... ummm.... ?! slip?!
"I like risks however so I think the Bus is definitly plausible" - i like the risk of killing one of the best town players on the 50-50% he's red.
(I'm saying 50-50 because he said it's "plausible", not likely or anything else)

Of course, my whole theory tumbles if LSB is indeed red. But we are basing this solely on the idea that the mafia team pushed Annul to a lynch on day one, which is a massively ballsy thing to do.
I'm not saying LSB is town, but at least give it more time to develop, just don't claim to him or whatever if you don't trust him.



As for Jackal, I didn't think he was scum, and I wanted to post a few bits based on Mafia 36 that made me think it was unlikely that he is red, but then he gave up on Gryph and voted LSB based on the fact that it's either him or Barundar, again, being certain that one of them is red, which no player should do so early in the game.

That's about enough for now, as I still want to look over the posts and see if I can find someone worthy of my vote.
But unless something really scummy pops up, it's definitely not gonna be LSB or Barundar. Not this time band-wagon-man!


On March 03 2011 16:09 Barundar wrote:
First of all: congratulations to us.

Second of all: LOL at people screaming lynch GMarshal. GMarshal listed his PM’s with Seraph, which doesn’t looks forged, and which several people encouraged him to. GMarshal has been playing pro town all game and has been in contact with a number of people. He posted the PM’s in the thread, and has been clear in his reasoning.

Now I agree GMarshal hasn’t been playing the best, I even prodded him about his vote on JBright, and he would rather lynch LastArgument than seraph. But you are all putting way too much emphasis on people being linked together over actual behavioural analysis.

Third: LOL at people apologising to LSB, and LOL at LSB wanting medic protection. You think someone isn’t mafia because of 1 vote? While he does get some brownie points, LSB’s play is still mafia. Difference is he didn’t bus Seraph.

Let me break the lynch down for you: LSB threw a vote early on to Seraph. But he was casting doubt on the actual analysis while doing so, and he didn’t sound convinced. LSB doesn’t actually bother talking about Seraph or convince others to vote him. Instead he spams at best, and tries to divert at worst:
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On March 03 2011 10:23 LSB wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:16 Jackal58 wrote:
Town. Please stay active. Keep your eyes open.

All we need now is Pandain to run in and quickly switch the lynch to someone random.

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On March 03 2011 10:25 LSB wrote:
Let me try.

EVERYONE LETS LYNCH BARUNDAR! QUICK QUICK QUICK

LSB didn’t believe in the actual lynch, and he certainly didn’t try to convince others. The only thing that gives LSB brownie points for this lynch, is to have had the votes on the right target, but it’s not like mafia can’t park a vote on their own afk team mate, who has strong cases against him. They just don’t want others to do the same. And LSB didn’t push for Seraph, he only put doubt on the case against him. Let’s not forget it was LSB who wanted GMarshal to publish Seraph’s PM’s.

Now who did push for Seraph?
Foolishness, obviously
Why
Myself + Show Spoiler +
I feel like the Jbright analysis is based more on "scumslips" than actual behavioral analysis. Quite contrary to the conclusions drawn by Ser Aspi, I don't see Jbright answering as a pressured scum. His silly reasons and distance from the game tells me bored townie rather than scum.
On March 03 2011 09:25 Barundar wrote:
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Maybe I should have waited a bit but I felt like a good time to post it as I don't particularly like the JBright wagon right now.

Agreed with this, weak reasoning in the votes stacking on Jbright.

Jackal58 + Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2011 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Well screw waiting. kevconsim and Last Argument were much to fast and much to happy to both vote for Jbright.

UNVOTE: kevconsim
##VOTE: Seraph


I urge you all to do the same.

Ser Aspi + Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2011 10:01 Ser Aspi wrote:
After seeing all these silent voters come out of the woodwork and vote jbright with no rationale Im feeling rather uneasy. My analysis of him was hardly foolproof, i just saw some shady points and wanted to push his buttons a little and I'm not convinced after what's happened.

Seraph on the other hand, let's just say he's pushing some agendas that help the mafia and the contrast of his spamminess pregame and total silence in game is too striking. Jbright might be just a useless townie who I hope fixes his act pronto, but Seraph has something to hide.

##vote: Seraph



All of these are most likely town, along with deconduo who started the day 1 bandwagon. I encourage to protect any of them, but favourite is Foolishness.

So, who should we lynch tomorrow? LSB?
If we have a vigilante out there, then kill LSB. He is still scum, and town has huge problems seeing through his play. He is exactly the kind of scum that you need to use vigi shot on, he is high profile and charismatic, making him difficult to lynch. We will most likely have to drag him to lylo if he doesn’t get vigi killed.

There is someone I think is a way better lynch target for tomorrow, Kevconsim.
Kevcon has been bandwagoning every day, with little reasoning. Upon his suspicious unvote yesterday, I decided to pressure him in PM’s to see if I could actually force an opinion out of him:

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Original Message From Barundar:
Just unvoting when put under pressure doesn't make you look more town. What do you think of Seraph and LD


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Original Message From kevconsim:
The only reason i did vote was because i thought voting ended today.
I dont trust LD i havent since Day 2. I trust Seraph more than LD but i dont like how he can say one thing and do another.


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Original Message From Barundar:
But why do you trust them? What makes LD more suspecious to you? And what makes Seraph less?


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Original Message From kevconsim:
Day 1
1. We lynch annul.
2. Mafia are incapable of getting the lynch off of annul. This means they do not have players who are prominent or have a lot of influence.
LD is playing a really quiet game compared to other games he has played in.

Seraph is not being as quiet.


Message from me he never replied to:
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LD has posted alot more than Seraph. Try and have a look at the post count. Since LD has posted more than seraph, does that make you reevaluate your suspecions?


It’s quite impossible to force an opinion out of him, and it’s funny how he couldn’t be forced to vote Seraph over LD even when he based his vote on post count. Objectively post count should lead to voting seraph.



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France84 Posts
March 05 2011 21:08 GMT
#1679
On March 06 2011 05:55 GMarshal wrote:


1. LSB is town
2. LSB is vigi.
3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA.
4. I am speaking for one of our medics.
5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle.
6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand.
7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA.
8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA.
9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer.
10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness.
!!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names.

1.) right...
2.) ok...
3.) then why the hell did he lie about it? and why bum? EXPLAIN!!!
4.) ok...
5.) and why didn't he claim that this morning, it would have been nice to know?
6.) Then I want an explanation out of him, PM will suffice
7.) LSB believes alot of strange stuff
8.) ok...
9.) fine, I can accept that, I don't know how much of your circle is imaginary though.
10.) really now, that dosn't clear them at all though, being in a circle with someone means very little.
11.) and this list is?

this proves nothing to me you provide no evidence, and no backup after LSB playing the way he is i'm not going to just take your word for it jackal sorry.


LSB might be utterly insane but there's nothing that necessarily makes him mafia.

Look at the votes. Look who is pushing what, and who voted for what. Chaoser, kev, and cubedin cannot be anything but mafia. LSB might be scum but he also might just be crazy.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 05 2011 21:13 GMT
#1680
gonna vote chaoser

as far as LSB its pretty clear hes not scum
the huge bandwagon on him only supports jackals claim.
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