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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 22:16 GMT
#1621
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 04 2011 22:16 GMT
#1622
On March 05 2011 07:07 GMarshal wrote:
Alright, so this either confirms you two or is a desperate scum gamble to survive, if we hung either of you the other would be confirmed, however the price of that confirmation is bringing us one day closer to lylo if you guys aren't a scumteam...

So, people what are your thoughts on the topic? If we lynch LA we confirm LSB as town or scum depending on the flip, alternatively we could just ignore that and go after kevinconism/others as our lynch of the day and worry about LSB and LA tomorrow, hoping that a mafia hit would flip one of them for us.

Waiting to see if scum hit them is nothing but wifom. If they don't get hit they must be scum. So then we'd have to lynch them. Why put us in a position to do scums job for them?

Remember what Foolishness said about lynching for information.
Life can only kill you once.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 04 2011 22:19 GMT
#1623
On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?


LOL....no comment, I gotta head out but all I can say to that is LOL
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 04 2011 22:23 GMT
#1624
On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?


Well, why didn't you just shoot him instead of calling for a vigi to do it? Why did you shoot tonight rather than yesterday night? Do you know for a fact that there is a second vigi that could have overlapped with you, or is that just a guess?
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 22:27 GMT
#1625
We were clearly discussing vig hits, and I'm going to put my suggestion of Barundar in there. It's a waste of town KP I shot Barundar twice. -.-
What's so hard about that? It's my dominate strategy

I have no idea about a second vig, but hey, I didn't have any problem with shooting LA at the time so I did it.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#1626
On March 05 2011 05:37 LSB wrote:
Oh I feel dumb, Seraph would have been modkilled anyways so there would be no real reason to try to off Jbright, besides just killing one more townie.



I am confused, AGAIN.
Why is this?
If Seraph would have been modkilled, why would we vote for him?
How does Seraph being red prove Jbright is town?

I'm seriously asking, since a lot of people have been going on this already, and I fear I missed something.



Regarding the vig hit:
- why not claim sooner?
- why not Barundar? I get that you called for another vig to hit him, buy why not do it yourself the day after you saw that nobody did.

You were arguing with him, you called for vig, no vig shot him, you called for vig again, and decided to shoot someone else? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make much sense.
Why did everyone shift focus off Kev? is it because he said "I am townie"?



Bottom line is this:
If nobody else claims vig shot on LA, I am 90% sure that LA is town.
This is because mafia had NO REASON to hit him as Ser and Foolishness just posted about him.
So it was a vig. If it wasn't LSB, and you're not claiming, then you're playing badly, because you're letting LSB confirm himself as town.

True, there might be a big evil plan by mafia, and have them both lie, but it would be extremely risky, as another vig could finish LA off or hit LSB and then they would lose two players (even if there's no lynch). So it doesn't make much sense.

So, as long as there's no other vig, we can assume they're both town.
The only think I really don't get is why did LSB choose LA when he wanted to off Barundar all this time? This is fishy, but I'd rather hear "I had my reasons" then "I didn't wanna stack". Please.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 22:49 GMT
#1627
On March 05 2011 07:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 05:37 LSB wrote:
Oh I feel dumb, Seraph would have been modkilled anyways so there would be no real reason to try to off Jbright, besides just killing one more townie.



I am confused, AGAIN.
Why is this?
If Seraph would have been modkilled, why would we vote for him?
How does Seraph being red prove Jbright is town?

I'm seriously asking, since a lot of people have been going on this already, and I fear I missed something.

I'm pointing out how Seraph being modkilled means
1) Mafia could/would bus him easily
2) This does not necessarily mean that Jbright is town, Jbright is mafia.


Regarding the vig hit:
- why not claim sooner?
- why not Barundar? I get that you called for another vig to hit him, buy why not do it yourself the day after you saw that nobody did.

You were arguing with him, you called for vig, no vig shot him, you called for vig again, and decided to shoot someone else? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make much sense.
Why did everyone shift focus off Kev? is it because he said "I am townie"?

I wanted to see what people would do. I find it interesting that some people immediately think that mafia must have doublestacked.
I've already explained why not Barundar. And I stuck something down on the bottom

I don't think we should shift focus off of Kev, at the same time though, there isn't much in depth analysis on him. I'll take a look at him

So, as long as there's no other vig, we can assume they're both town.
The only think I really don't get is why did LSB choose LA when he wanted to off Barundar all this time? This is fishy, but I'd rather hear "I had my reasons" then "I didn't wanna stack". Please.

How's this for you?
+ Show Spoiler +

Original Message From Barundar:
So you call for a vigi hit on me despite saying you don't know if I'm scum.

Explain the contradiction.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From LSB:
I dunno if I still think your scum, but I do have a red read on Bum, and I want to see where he goes if he still thinks if it is LSB v Barundar.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
March 04 2011 22:55 GMT
#1628
Ahahaha.... you call for a vig hit on me, yet doesn't hit me. You say you have a red read on bum, but dont hit him either. You hit LA.

LOL
Bartundar
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 23:09 GMT
#1629
I don't care if I make sense, I just shoot red.

Btw, Gmarshal is red
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 04 2011 23:14 GMT
#1630
then why the hell didn't you shoot me last night? nice OMGUS by the way I call you out on being the godfather and thus I must be red, I'll offer you a deal though, if you 100% believe me to be red then I'll hang today as long as you agree to hang tomorrow. If you are that sure that I am scum then it should sound like a wonderful deal to you, if you are scum then you'll come up with some brilliant theory why this is a scumplan.

My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 23:20 GMT
#1631
I'm fine with that
##Vote GMarshal
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
March 04 2011 23:22 GMT
#1632
bullshit

LSB isn't getting away this time.

If LSB flips red, then LA is red as well.

#Vote LSB
Bartundar
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 04 2011 23:22 GMT
#1633
Works for me too

##unvote
##Vote GMarshal


Now town come tomorrow don't let LSB persuade you that "it was all a mistake" and "oh look at this much better target" tomorrow you fucking hang LSB
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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
March 04 2011 23:24 GMT
#1634
Why would we lynch you GM? If LSB flips red we lynch LA after. He is just lieing through his teeth now.
Bartundar
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 23:27 GMT
#1635
On March 05 2011 08:20 LSB wrote:
I'm fine with that
##Vote GMarshal

I'm not.
I'd rather flip flop it, because if you're red then we don't have to lynch GMarshal at all, we can get your scumbuddy LA. It's a 2fer

On March 05 2011 00:17 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok Gryff, answer me only this:
If you were mafia and you wanted to kill Foolishness, would you only use one KP?

I don't know who's putting you on Solid town, as I didn't hear people around here coming to defend you at any point. I'm just saying, you're not addressing any of the accusations I made recently, you're using pure WIFOM "If I were mafia, would I not shift vote"??! Well I don't know man, is JB green??!? Because if they're both red it doesn't really matter who you voted for, right?

Cuz I'm sitting here trying to defend against people that automatically assume that JB is green/blue, and I have no freaking idea why that is.

I don't know what color he is; I know I've been voting at key points of 2 lynches on scum, though.

On March 05 2011 07:10 chaoser wrote:
Lynch LSB. If he's vigi then we have 100% confirmed in LA being a vet since I doubt medics protected him. If LSB is red then LA is red too.

I am for this.
LSB has lied way too many times, and has played a terrible town game. Like, if he's scum, I'll pat him on the back, but if he's town, I'm going to shake my head, especially considering how he has been tooting his own horn all game.

On March 05 2011 07:14 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote:
Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions

Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness.
Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill.
DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people


Also LSB I call shenanigans if you wanted a vigi to shoot Barundar then you could have done it yourself, why didn't you? You have been calling for that shot for two days now, interesting that you didn't take it.

I suspect you aren't a vigi at all but a mafia godfather

This post, and the last one you made, have made me completely flip flop on my read of you from leaning scum to leaning town. I have been trying to measure you and read you all game, to no avail really, fishing for information out of you through your reaction to me trying to make terrible cases on you. Finally, you react the way I would expect town to react to something. +town points, tbh. I'm completely ready to wagon LSB, even if I believe he might be town, there is a reason people get lynched for lying multiple times (to make them improve next game).

If we don't hold people accountable for claiming green/crazy shenanigans like he has pulled, and lynch them, then chaos will rule. I'd rather have chaoser rule than chaos.

On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?

Why would you CLAIM to have hit LA?
Why wouldn't you claim to be hitting LA BEFORE you did it, at which point he could claim veteran BEFORE you did it, allowing you to hit someone like ohN who is lurking hard. I'll tell you why - because Foolishness made a great case on your scumbuddy right before he died, and you're making a terrible gamble.

Too bad I follow LAL these days.

On March 05 2011 07:27 LSB wrote:
We were clearly discussing vig hits, and I'm going to put my suggestion of Barundar in there. It's a waste of town KP I shot Barundar twice. -.-
What's so hard about that? It's my dominate strategy

I have no idea about a second vig, but hey, I didn't have any problem with shooting LA at the time so I did it.

1) you claimed green, and backtracked - a lie
2) you have been mudslinging on barundar, and said a vig should hit him - you're a "vig" - lie
3) if that's not a lie, it's a contradiction
4) LAL - lynch all liars

Vote: LSB
i got blisters on me fingers
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 23:33 GMT
#1636
1) you claimed green, and backtracked - a lie
2) you have been mudslinging on barundar, and said a vig should hit him - you're a "vig" - lie

LOL. Claim vig before I make my shot? Do you really think I'm that stupid?

And I never claimed green. Lucky for me, people just assumed I was green.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
March 04 2011 23:39 GMT
#1637
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888&currentpage=46#901

And if you want proof I'm green, the fact that foolishness is still alive and wasn't triple stacked last night should be good enough.
Bartundar
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 04 2011 23:40 GMT
#1638
green=town aligned?

I don't understand why you guys are making these silly points -.-
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 04 2011 23:53 GMT
#1639
I don't agree with LAL but considering I've wanted LSB dead for the last 2 days this is an easy choice for me.

##Vote: LSB
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#1640
On March 05 2011 08:40 LSB wrote:
green=town aligned?

I don't understand why you guys are making these silly points -.-

You are SERIOUSLY claiming you don't know green to be townie on TL.net?
Blue is townie on Epic Mafia, for instance. It's just common knowledge.
Nice backtrack, yet again.
You are digging your hole deeper, and if you truly are town (which I doubt), you have noone to blame but yourself
i got blisters on me fingers
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