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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
We need 5 votes on someone, and no alternate wagons of 2 or more, just in case the 4 scum blitz You may say, well, that would give them away, but would it? We don't have the information they do! I urge you all to come together, and consolidate, lynching LSB I am tired of his shenanigans, and a rope is only fitting. In fact, the only thing that is fitting will be threads around his neck as he hangs. | ||
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why
United States215 Posts
Anyway, possible scenarios for LSB/LA: a) Both are town. Possible. LSB vigs LA thinking he's scum and LA turns out to be a vet. b) LA is red and LSB is vig. Can't be, because then LA would have died as it is unlikely there was a medic protect. c) LA is vet and LSB is red. Makes perfect sense. Mafia NK's LA and LA lives. LSB vig claims because he thinks everyone expects it and that it will semi-confirm him. d) Both are red. Also makes sense. The goal is to clear two people by verifying a vig claim and a vet claim at the same time. My impression now is that LSB is backtracking and making stuff up to justify his decision to take credit for the LA hit. Also, given that LA was very likely going to be lynched today, I think a smart vig, which I think LSB would be, would probably use his hit on a person who he thought was red and that he couldn't get lynched. As others have pointed out, Barundar (or a similar person) fits the bill but LA doesn't. ##Vote: CubedIn ##Unvote ##Vote: LSB Keep in mind that this is not an informational lynch. The only way we can get sure information out of the lynch is if we lynch LSB and he is a vig. Then, we know for sure that LA is a vet. Other than that, no information can be assumed. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
a) Mafia did it - makes no sense b) Another vig did it and is keeping quiet - makes even less sense. I get that LSB's defense doesn't look good, but that doesn't mean he's red. He might just be trying to justify the fact that he did something stupid. Also, @ why, thanks for the shout-out, lol. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 05 2011 09:18 CubEdIn wrote: If LSB didn't hit LA, then either: a) Mafia did it - makes no sense b) Another vig did it and is keeping quiet - makes even less sense. I get that LSB's defense doesn't look good, but that doesn't mean he's red. He might just be trying to justify the fact that he did something stupid. Also, @ why, thanks for the shout-out, lol. You missed c) He's lying | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
So LA decided to try to get off lynch by claiming he got hit and LSB decided to claim he was the one that hit him? We're going back to "extremely risky" strategy. Especially since there's just 4 scum left. But ok, I guess it's a possibility. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 05 2011 10:16 Coagulation wrote: CubEdIn WHO ARE YOU GONNA VOTE AND WHY? Cubed, LA, LSB, kev are scum. Cubed is probably the GF. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 05 2011 10:17 deconduo wrote: Cubed, LA, LSB, kev are scum. Cubed is probably the GF. LSB as GF makes more sense actually. He probably picked vig. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
It just doesn't make sense to me, dear Coag. I'll think about it tomorrow. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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kevconsim
United States317 Posts
##Vote LSB | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
##unvote GMarshal ##Vote: LSB | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote: Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness. Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill. DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people On March 05 2011 05:22 LSB wrote: I claim vig. I shot LA last night after reading Foolishness's analysis. lol On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote: Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it? If it weren't for this post, I'd be a bit more hesitant. ##Vote: LSB If he's red, LA is red, Barundar is green, and there's a huge paper trail left to re-analyze. Honestly sounds like a good lynch. On March 05 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote: then why the hell didn't you shoot me last night? nice OMGUS by the way I call you out on being the godfather and thus I must be red, I'll offer you a deal though, if you 100% believe me to be red then I'll hang today as long as you agree to hang tomorrow. If you are that sure that I am scum then it should sound like a wonderful deal to you, if you are scum then you'll come up with some brilliant theory why this is a scumplan. My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow Are we still at the point where we can afford to use lynches like this? Bad post? | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
The only thing that is making me hesitant is the quickness of this wagon, but I guess it is obvious | ||
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Ser Aspi
France84 Posts
So what we decided to do was present the town with multiple options rather than forcing 1 person to die and see what happened in an effort to use the day's proceedings to make the best lynch. Naturally if one was mafia and the other town, mafia would push the town lynch pretty heavily. Keep in mind Jbright, when posed with the alternative of Icemac, got almost no support day 2. Yet suddenly when he was up against the alternative of Seraph, he got a lot more questionable voters with bs reasons and we very narrowly lynched Seraph. In other words, we set a trap, and the mafia fell for it hook line and sinker. Scum down, and lots of juicy information. This is what we planned to do again today with kevconsim and lastargument, but foolishness was shot and I cant do that alone now. So lets look at the key data - given how close the lynch was my guess is 3 mafia were on jbright and 1 elsewhere, but at the very least 2 mafia were on the jbright list. For now I'll focus on the two highest priority ones and will return to the others after the lynch. Let's look at the important people on the jbright train. Jbright: GMarshal CubEdIn chaoser kevconsim LastArgument And who is voting for and putting a lot of suspicion LSB/LA? Gmarshal Chaoser. kevconsim It smells more than fishy. It smells scum. Note how chaoser has convienently ignored kevconsim completely while putting doubt on so many other players. And also, mafia can't afford to 'bus for trust' because they lose a kp when they lose their next member, gf or no (3.5 -> 2.5 currently). Keep in mind some other things: 1. lsb couldn't shoot night 1, was roleblocked night 2, and thus couldn't shoot until today. His behavior may be screwy but his explanation is possible. 2. There are definitely more power roles given mafia started with 3.5 kp and all these fancy abilities. Only three have been accounted for so far with no other claims, so it would make sense that at least one if not both might be telling the truth. I am assuming, of course, that our dear mod isn't insane and I hope that is a safe assumption. 3. LSB has voted for both mafia to die and didn't vacillate. His behavior is again, screwy and it doesn't make him innocent by any means, but you can't ignore this fact either. 4. LSB is getting bandwagoned HARD. kevconsim, on the other hand, is scarcely getting any attention. I'm not saying I'm certain lsb/la are innocent, as quite frankly up until this day's proceedings I thought LA guilty and LSB questionable, but it is FAR more probable that kevconsim and chaoser are guilty. As I judge it will be too difficult to convince everyone to kill that scumbo chaoser out of the blue in less than a day, kevconsim it is. Chaoser day 5. To be sure, let's look at kev's wildly incongruent behavior. Votes: Day 1: Icemac -> Annul - At the last minute when annul was 100% dead. Seems like a scum move. He claimed he wanted annul dead in pm's but his thread behavior was 1 post on icemac then a last minute switch to annul. Not consistent. Day 2: Icemac Day 3: Jbright Definitely doesn't look good for him. This is also my first time playing Mafia so i am kinda getting used to how to play....I am pretty sure you are town. I am pretty sure you are blue too but i do not know which one. Contrast this with: I am a regular townie so i dont really do anything at night right? + multiple instances of claiming how new he is.WTF? So you have someone who insists on being extremely new that is simultaneously capable of saying 'pretty certain someone is town and pretty certain he is blue' in pms. I'm sorry but this is laughable. He has an agenda. He's hiding something. Lastly, his logic of voting Jbright is extremely flawed as evidenced by barundar's pm's. The only reason i did vote was because i thought voting ended today. I dont trust LD i havent since Day 2. I trust Seraph more than LD but i dont like how he can say one thing and do another. Day 1 1. We lynch annul. 2. Mafia are incapable of getting the lynch off of annul. This means they do not have players who are prominent or have a lot of influence. LD is playing a really quiet game compared to other games he has played in. Seraph is not being as quiet. Seraph was one of the least active players in the game. LD was hardly active, but certainly moreso than seraph. Kev's words are heavily inconsistent with his behavior. He has something to hide. No smack brand new newbie is going to start fishing for roles in pm's as townie. ##vote:kevconsim ![[image loading]](http://hubba-u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/professor_badass.jpg) | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
LSB has had the right votes, but unlike you Ser Aspi, he hasn't actually scumhunted since day 1. He has parked a vote, but not done any accusation or questioning of people. He has just reiterated that I'm mafia and he wants me dead. I had kevcon as red before the day post, and I agree with your analysis of his inconsitensies. But there is too much mess regarding LastArgument and LSB for me to ignore for todays lynch. Kevcon can still be a newbie, but if LSB is red, then so is LastArgument. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
LSB has lied multiple times | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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