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On February 23 2011 15:23 gryffindor wrote:
with 30, i doubt there are 8
5-6 is much more likely, with 6 being more likely, unless they start with roles (which I doubt)
due to the mechanics
5 with an SK I would believe would be balanced as well, but i'm seeing 6 and 2.5-3kp, or something like "you may not kill 3 people" as 3 kp is a bit much right now
we will learn soon enough. It is also possible they get to pick to be permanent, or nightly. I'm not quite sure on the mechanic. Lets assume it is permanent, and they pick a GF and a role reverser
they'd still have 1.5kp which would round up to 2 afaik
The best thing to do is to not come out if you're a hatter, for sure
If you're a cop, I wouldn't come out unless you have a guilty, or are pressured
I wouldn't ever claim as medic, unless someone you protected and saved is up for lynch
Veteran is OK to claim, many setups have bulletproofs claiming first
Vigilante is OK to claim TOMORROW if you claim who you are going to kill - Don't claim today, as you can't kill tonight
Translation: Ignore everything I say.
Are you scum or just insane?
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From what i hear, insane :o
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On February 23 2011 15:23 gryffindor wrote:
with 30, i doubt there are 8
5-6 is much more likely, with 6 being more likely, unless they start with roles (which I doubt)
due to the mechanics
5 with an SK I would believe would be balanced as well, but i'm seeing 6 and 2.5-3kp, or something like "you may not kill 3 people" as 3 kp is a bit much right now
we will learn soon enough. It is also possible they get to pick to be permanent, or nightly. I'm not quite sure on the mechanic. Lets assume it is permanent, and they pick a GF and a role reverser
they'd still have 1.5kp which would round up to 2 afaik
The best thing to do is to not come out if you're a hatter, for sure
If you're a cop, I wouldn't come out unless you have a guilty, or are pressured
I wouldn't ever claim as medic, unless someone you protected and saved is up for lynch
Veteran is OK to claim, many setups have bulletproofs claiming first
Vigilante is OK to claim TOMORROW if you claim who you are going to kill - Don't claim today, as you can't kill tonight
As you asked what I found troublesome about this post.
as per the town guide found
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179
You did what would be as general talking. Rather than being specific with the use of the roles you mention you instead mention generalities. It also a post that lacks emphasis on the fundamental skill in which it has been suggested towns need to play by which is behavioural analysis. This and factoring in your earlier claim makes it seem fairly odd no?
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How is any of that insane whatsoever? Would you like to address individual points, or are you going to attack me via strawman(not addressing the meat of the argument)?
or you could leave it at attacking me and not my argument. i wouldn't mind that.
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looks like kenpachi is town this game.
thats a shame.
hes a good day 1 lynch
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On February 23 2011 15:46 Coagulation wrote:
looks like kenpachi is town this game.
thats a shame.
hes a good day 1 lynch
yea im disappointed. i wanted to be mafia so bad this game 
Anyways im not gonna be brainless this game
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wait a second what made infer im a townie? :S
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On February 23 2011 15:49 Kenpachi wrote:
wait a second what made you infer im a townie? :S
EBWOQ
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On February 23 2011 15:46 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 15:23 gryffindor wrote:
with 30, i doubt there are 8
5-6 is much more likely, with 6 being more likely, unless they start with roles (which I doubt)
due to the mechanics
5 with an SK I would believe would be balanced as well, but i'm seeing 6 and 2.5-3kp, or something like "you may not kill 3 people" as 3 kp is a bit much right now
we will learn soon enough. It is also possible they get to pick to be permanent, or nightly. I'm not quite sure on the mechanic. Lets assume it is permanent, and they pick a GF and a role reverser
they'd still have 1.5kp which would round up to 2 afaik
The best thing to do is to not come out if you're a hatter, for sure
If you're a cop, I wouldn't come out unless you have a guilty, or are pressured
I wouldn't ever claim as medic, unless someone you protected and saved is up for lynch
Veteran is OK to claim, many setups have bulletproofs claiming first
Vigilante is OK to claim TOMORROW if you claim who you are going to kill - Don't claim today, as you can't kill tonight As you asked what I found troublesome about this post. as per the town guide found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179You did what would be as general talking. Rather than being specific with the use of the roles you mention you instead mention generalities. It also a post that lacks emphasis on the fundamental skill in which it has been suggested towns need to play by which is behavioural analysis. This and factoring in your earlier claim makes it seem fairly odd no?
Not at all.
I felt the need to come in and give a good general way to play as each role for us.
People who focus on really weird plans are generally scum. See the plan for the ninjas in XXX which was proposed by the Mafia Godfather. It was very similar to what GMarshal did.
I don't consider myself having "generally talked" there whatsoever. I was discussing the setup, with what was possible, and coaching more inexperienced players on what works for town, which is generally lacking overall in terms of sense here in teamliquid (except for good players like Foolishness who *always* get hit N1)
Have you noticed, how, in my next posts, I list town and scum reads?
Is that not behavioral analysis?
Am I not currently voting, and, btw, thanks for responding to my QUESTION of you... which is another way to scumhunt... asking questions... sheesh
you're joking, right?
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On February 23 2011 15:49 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 15:49 Kenpachi wrote:
wait a second what made you infer im a townie? :S EBWOQ
because your a lurker everygame as mafia
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I'm voting Chaoser because this post sucks and reeks of red.
On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee.
Repeating something others have said? Check
Saying generic obvious advice? Check
Making it look like u r saying something but not really? Check
vote Chaoser
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On February 23 2011 15:46 Coagulation wrote:
looks like kenpachi is town this game.
thats a shame.
hes a good day 1 lynch
agree with your read, but you shouldn't state it quite that way
it is better to be more... wavering.. in your reads
kenpachi is town used to be considered a scumslip in 2004-2005, as seen in this town guide:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_Mafia
#5 is what you just did
"kenpachi is town" not "looks like kenpachi might be town"
Now, this is generally written off now, but fair warning that people might call you out on that eventually. Some of them, though, are still very damning. It addresses rolefishing on d1, for instance, which is why I am voting GMarshal for that plan to set up mafia members infiltrating potential town circles.
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On February 23 2011 15:50 gryffindor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 15:46 LastArgument wrote:On February 23 2011 15:23 gryffindor wrote:
with 30, i doubt there are 8
5-6 is much more likely, with 6 being more likely, unless they start with roles (which I doubt)
due to the mechanics
5 with an SK I would believe would be balanced as well, but i'm seeing 6 and 2.5-3kp, or something like "you may not kill 3 people" as 3 kp is a bit much right now
we will learn soon enough. It is also possible they get to pick to be permanent, or nightly. I'm not quite sure on the mechanic. Lets assume it is permanent, and they pick a GF and a role reverser
they'd still have 1.5kp which would round up to 2 afaik
The best thing to do is to not come out if you're a hatter, for sure
If you're a cop, I wouldn't come out unless you have a guilty, or are pressured
I wouldn't ever claim as medic, unless someone you protected and saved is up for lynch
Veteran is OK to claim, many setups have bulletproofs claiming first
Vigilante is OK to claim TOMORROW if you claim who you are going to kill - Don't claim today, as you can't kill tonight As you asked what I found troublesome about this post. as per the town guide found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179You did what would be as general talking. Rather than being specific with the use of the roles you mention you instead mention generalities. It also a post that lacks emphasis on the fundamental skill in which it has been suggested towns need to play by which is behavioural analysis. This and factoring in your earlier claim makes it seem fairly odd no? Not at all. I felt the need to come in and give a good general way to play as each role for us. People who focus on really weird plans are generally scum. See the plan for the ninjas in XXX which was proposed by the Mafia Godfather. It was very similar to what GMarshal did. I don't consider myself having "generally talked" there whatsoever. I was discussing the setup, with what was possible, and coaching more inexperienced players on what works for town, which is generally lacking overall in terms of sense here in teamliquid (except for good players like Foolishness who *always* get hit N1) Have you noticed, how, in my next posts, I list town and scum reads? Is that not behavioral analysis? Am I not currently voting, and, btw, thanks for responding to my QUESTION of you... which is another way to scumhunt... asking questions... sheesh you're joking, right?
In your following posts after the one I quoted you only center on GM for a possible red, who is following suggestions found in the link I provided. I also glanced through your posts and you so far have only insinuated that GM as well as mrwiggles.
Your list of "reads" is responding to foolishness, but is also a summary of information found in multiple spots within the mafia forum. Most of it is all spoken generalities, rather than specifics. I know I am not very experienced and running purely on what I have read from threads here but based on that it all seems off.
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i see what your saying.
i see it more as bait for a desperate mafia to bite.
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On February 23 2011 15:43 Coagulation wrote:
gryffindor ARE YOU BILL?
Stop trying to figure out Bill Murray's smurf name. Stop thinking about his smurf name. It doesn't matter what it is for the purposes of this game, but him remaining anonymous is part of his probation + he doesn't want to be judged based upon his past.
+ Show Spoiler +Don't read anything into this. I'm not saying gryffindor is Bill Murray. I'm also not saying he isn't Bill Murray. All I'm saying is stop talking about it.
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On February 23 2011 15:59 Coagulation wrote:
i see what your saying.
i see it more as bait for a desperate mafia to bite.
Yeah, you shouldn't do that.
It's really not a tell anymore, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
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On February 23 2011 15:59 Qatol wrote:Stop trying to figure out Bill Murray's smurf name. Stop thinking about his smurf name. It doesn't matter what it is for the purposes of this game, but him remaining anonymous is part of his probation + he doesn't want to be judged based upon his past.+ Show Spoiler +Don't read anything into this. I'm not saying gryffindor is Bill Murray. I'm also not saying he isn't Bill Murray. All I'm saying is stop talking about it.
HEY BILL WAS MY BUDDY AND I MISS HIM THATS ALL RELAX
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On February 23 2011 15:57 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 15:50 gryffindor wrote:On February 23 2011 15:46 LastArgument wrote:On February 23 2011 15:23 gryffindor wrote:
with 30, i doubt there are 8
5-6 is much more likely, with 6 being more likely, unless they start with roles (which I doubt)
due to the mechanics
5 with an SK I would believe would be balanced as well, but i'm seeing 6 and 2.5-3kp, or something like "you may not kill 3 people" as 3 kp is a bit much right now
we will learn soon enough. It is also possible they get to pick to be permanent, or nightly. I'm not quite sure on the mechanic. Lets assume it is permanent, and they pick a GF and a role reverser
they'd still have 1.5kp which would round up to 2 afaik
The best thing to do is to not come out if you're a hatter, for sure
If you're a cop, I wouldn't come out unless you have a guilty, or are pressured
I wouldn't ever claim as medic, unless someone you protected and saved is up for lynch
Veteran is OK to claim, many setups have bulletproofs claiming first
Vigilante is OK to claim TOMORROW if you claim who you are going to kill - Don't claim today, as you can't kill tonight As you asked what I found troublesome about this post. as per the town guide found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179You did what would be as general talking. Rather than being specific with the use of the roles you mention you instead mention generalities. It also a post that lacks emphasis on the fundamental skill in which it has been suggested towns need to play by which is behavioural analysis. This and factoring in your earlier claim makes it seem fairly odd no? Not at all. I felt the need to come in and give a good general way to play as each role for us. People who focus on really weird plans are generally scum. See the plan for the ninjas in XXX which was proposed by the Mafia Godfather. It was very similar to what GMarshal did. I don't consider myself having "generally talked" there whatsoever. I was discussing the setup, with what was possible, and coaching more inexperienced players on what works for town, which is generally lacking overall in terms of sense here in teamliquid (except for good players like Foolishness who *always* get hit N1) Have you noticed, how, in my next posts, I list town and scum reads? Is that not behavioral analysis? Am I not currently voting, and, btw, thanks for responding to my QUESTION of you... which is another way to scumhunt... asking questions... sheesh you're joking, right? In your following posts after the one I quoted you only center on GM for a possible red, who is following suggestions found in the link I provided. I also glanced through your posts and you so far have only insinuated that GM as well as mrwiggles. Your list of "reads" is responding to foolishness, but is also a summary of information found in multiple spots within the mafia forum. Most of it is all spoken generalities, rather than specifics. I know I am not very experienced and running purely on what I have read from threads here but based on that it all seems off.
You need to re-read the post in which I "insinuated" mrwiggles. I did no such thing; you need to learn to read more carefully. Look at the punctuation, don't just ISO people post-by-post, and read it in context. If that's not the case, learn to read punctuation correctly.
I am not sure GM is red, but thanks for noticing I'm voting him. How is he "following suggestions found in the link provided"? I wasn't summarizing anything, either, just speaking from my heart, so that is a misrepresentation as well as my lack of an insinuation on MrWiggles.
I can tell you are not experienced. You said it, not me.
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that reads a bit off, but GENERALLY SPEAKING so does your attempt to appear town
placing you on my shortlist of scum for trying to discredit your buddy GMarshal's attacker
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initial reads:
people to keep alive:
gryffindor
foolishness
coagulation
kenpachi
ser aspi
leaning town:
lunardestiny
LastArgument (you're thinking, WUT?, but i'll explain if questioned)
MrWiggles
leaning scum:
GMarshal
The guy voting annul
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