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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 14 2010 09:41 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote: death eater 3 hits only 1 died RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then
Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please. Is this a slip? How do you know they had 3 hits on 3 different people? They could've stacked the hits on one person who happened to be bulletproof. I think the people who got hit need to claim. If it's only one person, then we definitely have a red here.
Will those who are hit even be informed that they were hit?
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Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned.
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On December 14 2010 09:44 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:41 orgolove wrote:On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote: death eater 3 hits only 1 died RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then
Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please. Is this a slip? How do you know they had 3 hits on 3 different people? They could've stacked the hits on one person who happened to be bulletproof. I think the people who got hit need to claim. If it's only one person, then we definitely have a red here. Will those who are hit even be informed that they were hit?
My justification for not claiming yet is to wait for everyones thoughts on claiming because its likely 2 got hit and didn't die (like I said) and its easier for mafia to fake claim compared to only 1 getting hit and surviving.
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On December 14 2010 09:46 LunarDestiny wrote: Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned.
How are you sure that no one has infiltrated such a group? I assume you don't have many members, but even so, have you DT checked them?
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People who got hit are to claim.
There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.
Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information.
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On December 14 2010 09:51 Pandain wrote: People who got hit are to claim.
There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.
Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information.
How would this force mafia to act now?
Kinda sounds like scum who wants to know why his hit didn't go through...
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On December 14 2010 09:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:51 Pandain wrote: People who got hit are to claim.
There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.
Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information. How would this force mafia to act now? Kinda sounds like scum who wants to know why his hit didn't go through...
By doing this, mafia can't just stay back and be like "Hmm... sup guys... what should we do? Fake claim? Or what?" It forces them to be sponteanous, and a non-thinking mafia is good for town. Again, there is no downsides to claiming now.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 14 2010 09:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:51 Pandain wrote: People who got hit are to claim.
There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.
Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information. How would this force mafia to act now? Kinda sounds like scum who wants to know why his hit didn't go through...
Well someone confirming they were hit doesn't reveal why they weren't hit. Plus, it gives a confirmed townie to rally around.
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On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF I'm sorry what? Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information. Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...
I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF I'm sorry what? Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information. Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on... I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would.
Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition?
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On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF I'm sorry what? Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information. Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on... I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would. Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition? I think annul is checking if we violated the rule...
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you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities
i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future
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i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives)
If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle.
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Also it seems weird that RoL died last night. I was almost convinced he was either 3rd party or scum-aligned. His play was just so messy and disturbing. Can't believe he was actually blue :/
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I miss beneather's ability already, because we never got use out of it.
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On December 14 2010 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:46 LunarDestiny wrote: Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned. How are you sure that no one has infiltrated such a group? I assume you don't have many members, but even so, have you DT checked them?
We only had three members, Lunar, Myself, and Beneather, all confirmed townies D:
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote: you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities
i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future
mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise.
So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first?
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1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.
2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.
This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.
3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.
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On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF I'm sorry what? Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information. Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on... I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would. Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition? The only thing confirmed is that you and LD need to be watched very closely.
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On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote: you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities
i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future Show nested quote +mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise. So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first?
Probably the three different DT abilities make 5.
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