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On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote:
you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities
i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future Show nested quote +mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise. So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first?
unlynchable and one-night immunity to mafia KP were passive abilities that would kick in when "used" provided the active abilities were not. he didnt have to choose them ahead of time for them to work, no.
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On December 14 2010 10:24 why wrote:
1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.
2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.
This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.
3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.
1)Ummm...Breadcrumb? fill a noob in please
2) I think there was more than one town-hit that went down as Beneather was being considered as suspected scum by some players, and the mafia wouldn't really want to kill a suspected scum as a suspected scum can draw attention away from real scum
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On December 14 2010 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote:
death eater 3 hits only 1 died
RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then
Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please. or KP from town..
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On December 14 2010 09:35 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:34 orgolove wrote:
God damn. If RoL was town, why the fuck did he keep harping on for a non-majority vote lynch? How can you be any more scummy than that?
My FoS is still on LSB. His secret vote system could benefit none but the mafia. or his role.
I feel that Kenpachi knows something, but isn't scum. But his play is so bad I don't know what to make of it.
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On December 14 2010 10:24 why wrote:
1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.
2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.
This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.
3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.
1) We don't need to prove ourself that we are in Beneather. Town knows that Beneather is town and was in a town-aligned group. Mr.Zergling and I claim that we are the remaining members of the group.
If no one counter claims, then we are not lying. I do have a few pms of me chatting with Beneather, don't think that is strong prove.
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Seems like we got through that pretty well atleast. Pandain would you mind explaining why you think you qualified for medic protection?
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Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.
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On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.
Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.
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(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons  )
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On December 14 2010 10:44 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason. Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.
To be more precise, the group is formed by townies only.
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i can confirm that gilderoy's role pm was the only one that directly "lied" -- this is why i fixed it and told him during the middle of day 1, cuz it wasnt fair.
everybody's PMs from me are, as of the time of PM, 100% true.
this is not to say some people's roles may not shift over time, of course. but players should be aware 100% of the things i send them are true as of the time i send it to them.
if, hypothetically, i sent someone a role PM saying they are in a town-aligned confirmed mason group, then at least at that time, they can take that to the bank.
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On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote:(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons )
I don't think there is any good "breadcrumb", the only "breadcrumb" I can think of is right before day2 when I tried to defend beneather when RoL said he fell into his "trap"..
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It's already been one day and one night. We already lost like 5 blues. Come on, we have people who clearly showed scummy play. Is that not the town's job? To get hints of people's roles? None of the reds have died yet. None of them. Instead of wasting our time arguing about a "mason" group, we have to deal with the clues we already have.
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And by that, I keep going back to LSB's secret vote. The past two pages have been focused on a useless discussion about the validity of the group. Given what annul has said, and given that there's multiple people confirming it, I think we can be pretty sure such a circle actually exists. So why are we still wasting our time talking about it?
This is exactly what the reds want - to take the town's attention away from scumhunting and into frivolous role discussions. This is what happened in Insane Mafia, and look where it got us. Lets reverse the recent trend of town losing every game, and get back to scumhunting.
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LSB is going to die. Today. I was wrong about deconduo being the mafia mayor candidate and now that RoL is dead we know that his role didn't rely on LSB dying for no reason. Without this excuse there's no reason for letting LSB live another night. Let's kill him and vote double lynch so we can start putting a dent in the mafia kp.
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Oh and I owe an apology to orgolove, he had LSB pinned from the start.
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LSB. IS. NOT. FUCKING. MAFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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On December 14 2010 11:17 Kenpachi wrote:
LSB. IS. NOT. FUCKING. MAFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
So he is part of a confirmed group of townies? With you maybe?
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On December 14 2010 11:21 Mr.Zergling wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 11:17 Kenpachi wrote:
LSB. IS. NOT. FUCKING. MAFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA So he is part of a confirmed group of townies? With you maybe?
yes! and yes!
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On December 14 2010 11:22 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 11:21 Mr.Zergling wrote:On December 14 2010 11:17 Kenpachi wrote:
LSB. IS. NOT. FUCKING. MAFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA So he is part of a confirmed group of townies? With you maybe? yes! and yes!
How the hell did you confirm that he's a townie? We've seen that there's 3 types of detectives - role detective, name detective, alignment detective. How are you so sure that he's confirmed?
Look, even if he showed as a confirmed townie, there's the existence of a bus driver and the existence of people with avada kedavera (instant death curse) and imperio (control curse). There's nothing that you can 100% be sure of here, no matter what you have. Do you even have a detective in your circle, or are you just taking him from blind faith?
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It seems likely he's one of the two patil sisters.
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