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On November 02 2010 12:36 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On Node: That seems like really risky play by the mafia. Why steer hits away so early to gun for the mayor? It's not like drH's votes make such a great difference at the moment. This would have to be a long-term baiting where we continuously have to follow Node's advice and failing to protect people. This ability seems pretty cool, but detrimental as well since we now have to think about saving player x vs. potentially saving people who could not even be targeted tonight.
Well, if he's mafia, he'll be a fucking annoyance for 2 more night or so, because I'd imagine he'll be honest with his telegraphed hits to the town. Day 5 i can see him lying to secure a critical kill to end the game, but whatever. Mafia's going to have to play around him one way or another and that's probably good for us. If you want to omit him from your list because there are better targets, that's cool beans.
As for DrH's votes not making a great difference; Wrong. DrH counts as 2 people for the purposes of town/mafia balance when we arrive at LyLo. Ignoring this now leads us into situations wherein we miscalculate our possibilities by 1 and lose to potential burst nightroles. Even within the next 2 days, its possible that we have m-rus explode all over everyone's faces and get pared down to a very spartan day 4 where a single extra vote might decide the game.
Anyways, mafia completely ruined my gaming tonight, so I'm off to go play a round before I get some sleep. Chowsers.
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On November 02 2010 12:40 Lexpar wrote:
Basically you're asking me to role claim, which I'd rather not do.
I wanted to help the town. My role, on that night, would have left me dead if Dr.H was red. I'm now fairly confident that he isn't. I'd say 90%. I did post my comment a little early, so it's possible that I was role-blocked, or maybe some other ability was deployed that negated mine. I find those less than likely.
It was said that by making my post (If I die tonight the Doc is scum) I was negating that post. You guys automatically assumed that by posting I would die and you'd have to deal with the fact that either I was lying as a red and framing DocH or was telling the truth. You didn't consider the fact that I might live through the night. As it happens I am alive. I'm interested as to what you guys think of that.
I'll say that if I die from now on out DocH had nothing to do with it (Unless of course he votes to lynch me :p).
I hope that helps explain things a bit.
I wasn't asking you to role claim, this is pretty much exactly what I wanted to hear from you. Elaboration is the town's friend.
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On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p
I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say.
On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name.
I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking:
What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy.
Eye of Suspicion
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ZOMG I'M A HYDRALISK
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That was a very confusing post right there. From what evidence did you have that DocH and what was the point of saying that if you die DocH was a scum. The part that I do not understand in your post is that your changing your mind. That you do not want to be killed so you may be a scum for "trying to frame DocH" But as you notice that DocH may not be killed since the topic has changed on to different suspects you have changed your mind because you wanted DocH to be killed. This may be the evidence that you are a scum.
Sorry if this did not make sense its my first time!
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Yeah it dosen't make sense. As I understand you just got into the game. Have you read my first few posts? They were highly inflammatory.
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On November 02 2010 12:48 Beneather wrote:
That was a very confusing post right there. From what evidence did you have that DocH and what was the point of saying that if you die DocH was a scum. The part that I do not understand in your post is that your changing your mind. That you do not want to be killed so you may be a scum for "trying to frame DocH" But as you notice that DocH may not be killed since the topic has changed on to different suspects you have changed your mind because you wanted DocH to be killed. This may be the evidence that you are a scum.
Sorry if this did not make sense its my first time!
huh? can you word this better?
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On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion
That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time
(Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice
there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored.
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On November 02 2010 12:44 L wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:36 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On Node: That seems like really risky play by the mafia. Why steer hits away so early to gun for the mayor? It's not like drH's votes make such a great difference at the moment. This would have to be a long-term baiting where we continuously have to follow Node's advice and failing to protect people. This ability seems pretty cool, but detrimental as well since we now have to think about saving player x vs. potentially saving people who could not even be targeted tonight. Well, if he's mafia, he'll be a fucking annoyance for 2 more night or so, because I'd imagine he'll be honest with his telegraphed hits to the town. Day 5 i can see him lying to secure a critical kill to end the game, but whatever. Mafia's going to have to play around him one way or another and that's probably good for us. If you want to omit him from your list because there are better targets, that's cool beans. As for DrH's votes not making a great difference; Wrong. DrH counts as 2 people for the purposes of town/mafia balance when we arrive at LyLo. Ignoring this now leads us into situations wherein we miscalculate our possibilities by 1 and lose to potential burst nightroles. Even within the next 2 days, its possible that we have m-rus explode all over everyone's faces and get pared down to a very spartan day 4 where a single extra vote might decide the game. Anyways, mafia completely ruined my gaming tonight, so I'm off to go play a round before I get some sleep. Chowsers.
And the extra voting power on the side of town can be very much beneficial in the late game. Obviously my extra vote makes a difference but it's hasty to assume this will be a bad thing for the town.
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On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored.
Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone...
I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek...
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On November 02 2010 12:53 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:48 Beneather wrote:
That was a very confusing post right there. From what evidence did you have that DocH and what was the point of saying that if you die DocH was a scum. The part that I do not understand in your post is that your changing your mind. That you do not want to be killed so you may be a scum for "trying to frame DocH" But as you notice that DocH may not be killed since the topic has changed on to different suspects you have changed your mind because you wanted DocH to be killed. This may be the evidence that you are a scum.
Sorry if this did not make sense its my first time! huh? can you word this better?
Alright I shall try.
From lexpar post he had changed his mind from saying that if he dies DocH was scum without any information towards his statement. Trying to put the people's attention towards DocH (In my head trying to lynch him) But once the topic had changed from DocH to the other suspects he had changed his mind posting again to clarify this. In my head I am thinking that he was trying to get rid of DocH so we have lost a mayor and that he was an important role. If you look at his other posts he has just been accusing people with little background to support his statements. If you do accuse somebody should you not have background against them?
This is much harder than I expected but gets the brain thinking and is fun nonetheless
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On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek...
so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people?
really?
thats as anti town as it gets.
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On November 02 2010 13:03 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:53 Coagulation wrote:On November 02 2010 12:48 Beneather wrote:
That was a very confusing post right there. From what evidence did you have that DocH and what was the point of saying that if you die DocH was a scum. The part that I do not understand in your post is that your changing your mind. That you do not want to be killed so you may be a scum for "trying to frame DocH" But as you notice that DocH may not be killed since the topic has changed on to different suspects you have changed your mind because you wanted DocH to be killed. This may be the evidence that you are a scum.
Sorry if this did not make sense its my first time! huh? can you word this better? Alright I shall try. From lexpar post he had changed his mind from saying that if he dies DocH was scum without any information towards his statement. Trying to put the people's attention towards DocH (In my head trying to lynch him) But once the topic had changed from DocH to the other suspects he had changed his mind posting again to clarify this. In my head I am thinking that he was trying to get rid of DocH so we have lost a mayor and that he was an important role. If you look at his other posts he has just been accusing people with little background to support his statements. If you do accuse somebody should you not have background against them? This is much harder than I expected but gets the brain thinking and is fun nonetheless
Well, he's implying that he has a role that will somehow assuredly die or most likely die if a mafia is elected mayor. Or that I would be given some sort of information as a mafia mayor that would lead me to put a hit on him that I would not have as a town mayor.
He didn't accuse me but said "If X happens than Y is likely true and if X doesn't happen then Z is likely true". It's a conditional accusation. It's confusing and it cannot be confirmed, but I don't want him to roleclaim unless it is an absolute necessity which at this point it is not.
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On November 02 2010 13:03 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:53 Coagulation wrote:On November 02 2010 12:48 Beneather wrote:
That was a very confusing post right there. From what evidence did you have that DocH and what was the point of saying that if you die DocH was a scum. The part that I do not understand in your post is that your changing your mind. That you do not want to be killed so you may be a scum for "trying to frame DocH" But as you notice that DocH may not be killed since the topic has changed on to different suspects you have changed your mind because you wanted DocH to be killed. This may be the evidence that you are a scum.
Sorry if this did not make sense its my first time! huh? can you word this better? Alright I shall try. From lexpar post he had changed his mind from saying that if he dies DocH was scum without any information towards his statement. Trying to put the people's attention towards DocH (In my head trying to lynch him) But once the topic had changed from DocH to the other suspects he had changed his mind posting again to clarify this. In my head I am thinking that he was trying to get rid of DocH so we have lost a mayor and that he was an important role. If you look at his other posts he has just been accusing people with little background to support his statements. If you do accuse somebody should you not have background against them? This is much harder than I expected but gets the brain thinking and is fun nonetheless
I didn't see it as trying to get Doc lynched that night, but if Lex died, then Doc should be looked at to be lynched Day 2.
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On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek...
I'm scared of an inactive Divinek too. He wasn't extremely active behind the scenes in haunted/brownbears mafia but he is a really good player and is good at blending in with the town.
I hope he's one of us and is really just busy.
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Alright thanks for the clarification. I really dont want to read all these posts. I will not try but it would be helpful if you could give me some useful information that could get me in to the game more thanks
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On November 02 2010 13:05 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek... so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people? really? thats as anti town as it gets.
Was I accusing him? No.
I felt left out because of all this ridiculous arguing, and I want people to look at others for possible lynch targets because I believe this argument really didn't get us far.
Go ahead and try to paint me anti-town if you really want to. I'm not sure you'll get too far.
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On November 02 2010 13:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 13:05 Coagulation wrote:On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!
who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?.... Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit? Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs. Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek... so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people? really? thats as anti town as it gets. Was I accusing him? No. I felt left out because of all this ridiculous arguing, and I want people to look at others for possible lynch targets because I believe this argument really didn't get us far. Go ahead and try to paint me anti-town if you really want to. I'm not sure you'll get too far.
im not trying to paint you anti town. but dont pretend that trying to put eye of suspicion on people because you feel left out is a good way to help town.
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On November 02 2010 13:14 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 13:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 13:05 Coagulation wrote:On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:
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Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit?
Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs.
Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek... so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people? really? thats as anti town as it gets. Was I accusing him? No. I felt left out because of all this ridiculous arguing, and I want people to look at others for possible lynch targets because I believe this argument really didn't get us far. Go ahead and try to paint me anti-town if you really want to. I'm not sure you'll get too far. im not trying to paint you anti town. but dont pretend that trying to put eye of suspicion on people because you feel left out is a good way to help town.
Feeling left out isn't the lead persuasion for wanting to search for other targets. Wanting to expand the discussion is.
While I know it is likely there are some blues lurking/being inactive, I would say that it is almost certain there are lurking mafia. This scares me because they can just sit back while people like Doc/Pandain/YM/infinite bicker and split the town into to halves.
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On November 02 2010 13:14 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 13:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 13:05 Coagulation wrote:On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.
Don't expect me to post for a while :p I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say. On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:
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Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit?
Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs.
Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did. At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up. The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to.. hmm. Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die? Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name. I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking: What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy. Eye of Suspicion That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time (Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored. Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone... I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek... so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people? really? thats as anti town as it gets. Was I accusing him? No. I felt left out because of all this ridiculous arguing, and I want people to look at others for possible lynch targets because I believe this argument really didn't get us far. Go ahead and try to paint me anti-town if you really want to. I'm not sure you'll get too far. im not trying to paint you anti town. but dont pretend that trying to put eye of suspicion on people because you feel left out is a good way to help town.
But also, I can see how you felt the way you did. I apologize.
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