On November 02 2010 11:53 infinitestory wrote:
L, do you want to elaborate on why you think we have a lower chance (1/6) of getting a red with DrH or Aeres?

The entire clusterfuck that you're in is made most interesting by the fact that people have aggressively pushed the topic to it, but no one's really made an attempt to suggest anything else prior to me making my statement. That tells me that on the whole, mafia's happy with the general focus that we have as a town, which probably also means that they're not very invested into the argument and letting townies eviscerate each other so that they can combo blame someone after we mislynch today to coast safely into day 4.

If mafia really wanted to get the focus off either DrH or Aeres, they would have 3 or so people bringing up solid alternate topics, like "what the fuck's up with Node?" "what the fuck is fishball doing?" "hey bros, i claim i'm X!". Instead we see an almost laser like precision on two relatively large warring 'sides'. Mafia isn't going to step out as a group of 3 people and present a unified argument, because they almost never do so this early in the game when it can be traced back later. Given that, Mafia might be on both sides, but why bother? They just got a get out of jail free card. No need to toss people into 20 pages worth of argument, because there's nothing to argue about. From the mafia perspective they've already won the day.

The sad part is that this would be completely unviable if people bothered to step up and produce, but we're getting a buncha me-toos and bad analysis. The youngmiini analysis had neither party bother to go look at his old games and instead just added commentary to his post history. Way to go. No one's going to read it. Instead, group his posts together and add thematics so show what the player is trying to do, rather than trying to nitpick the logic he's presenting for 10 pages straight.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 02 2010 03:09 GMT

#2030

oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.

Don't expect me to post for a while :p

Canada4732 Posts

November 02 2010 03:10 GMT

#2031

On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:

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At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up.

The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to..

hmm.

Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die?

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

November 02 2010 03:12 GMT

#2032

On November 02 2010 11:47 Nemesis wrote:
I do agree with L that we need to pick a lynch target who isn't part of the heavy arguing going on.

If anyone can put together a case for an alternative, I'd be more than glad to hear it.

Youngminii just revealed he had a misconception that ... certainly puts his actions in a different light. I'm nowhere near as sure of youngminii anymore, and I'm not very content with the argument against Aeres (note: this does not mean throw the same points at me again).

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

November 02 2010 03:14 GMT

#2033

On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:

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The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to..

hmm.

Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die?

Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name.

Canada4732 Posts

November 02 2010 03:30 GMT

#2034

Yeah, then node's back on the list then. This is a fantastic play to absorb medic prots and kill the mayor if he's not mafia.

Quite frankly I haven't the requisite day 1 knowledge to make a confident choice as to who's a superior choice, but we should probably draw up a few candidates to see how people react. Even if we end up defaulting to our argument lynchpool, we'll have gained information that might help us out later.

The only way this is detrimental is if there's actually some kind of critical nugget in the argument that is an overt scumtell that we haven't picked up on yet, which might happen in the pandain expose, but I've got a feeling its going to be more of the same garbage we've been swimming through since page 80.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

November 02 2010 03:36 GMT

#2035

On Node: That seems like really risky play by the mafia. Why steer hits away so early to gun for the mayor? It's not like drH's votes make such a great difference at the moment. This would have to be a long-term baiting where we continuously have to follow Node's advice and failing to protect people. This ability seems pretty cool, but detrimental as well since we now have to think about saving player x vs. potentially saving people who could not even be targeted tonight.

Beneather

Canada451 Posts

November 02 2010 03:40 GMT

#2036

Sorry, Guys I just got in to this and Im trying to find out what I need to know could you guys just give me some information that I will need to know.

Lexpar

1813 Posts

November 02 2010 03:40 GMT

#2037

Basically you're asking me to role claim, which I'd rather not do.

I wanted to help the town. My role, on that night, would have left me dead if Dr.H was red. I'm now fairly confident that he isn't. I'd say 90%. I did post my comment a little early, so it's possible that I was role-blocked, or maybe some other ability was deployed that negated mine. I find those less than likely.

It was said that by making my post (If I die tonight the Doc is scum) I was negating that post. You guys automatically assumed that by posting I would die and you'd have to deal with the fact that either I was lying as a red and framing DocH or was telling the truth. You didn't consider the fact that I might live through the night. As it happens I am alive. I'm interested as to what you guys think of that.

I'll say that if I die from now on out DocH had nothing to do with it (Unless of course he votes to lynch me :p).

I hope that helps explain things a bit.