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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 11 2010 11:42 GMT
#341
On March 11 2010 20:41 Zona wrote:
Okay - is L backpedaling from his super heavy hinting that he's the DT? I don't like this. If you get elected and say "surprise, I'm not the DT" - I'll push for your lynch day 2.

This vivi57 DT claim on Bloodycobbler's behalf is also unsettling - what does bloodycobbler have to say about this? Maybe if the claim was by PM he wanted to gain supporters without going totally public with his claim? perhaps he didn't want his claim to come under public scrutiny? why would you, vivi57, share this tidbit when bloodycobbler clearly wasn't going public on his own with his claim? also - did his PM with his claim come before or after L heavily implied he himself was a DT?

still, these are good developments. we've got people making statements that can eventually be checked to see who's lying. especially statements involving 2 people who will likely be pretty active players.

nemY - you can't abstain in this game. so no fence sitting for you - make a real vote so that your actions can be examined later on.

fixed a missing word that totally changed the meaning of that sentence
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 11 2010 13:31 GMT
#342
So BC has not denied his roleclaim. The question is: why choose this weird way to come out? Seems it was a slip-up from vivi? But then why would BC trust vivi without a rolecheeck??? BC is a smart player who knows the importance of dts in this game. Why risk it all for one vote??? It makes no sense if BC really is dt to take that risk in a pm.

Any comments BC??
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 11 2010 14:03 GMT
#343
On March 11 2010 18:34 Bill Murray wrote:
He insinuated he was a detective, and BloodyC0bbler PM'ed Vivi57 (so vivi says) saying he was a detective too. In my post above, in the top spoiler, BloodyC0bbler says he doubts that there would be more than 1 detective with the amount of rolechecks he can do in the current system. I would also rather someone PM claim than try to claim on the thread by hinting at something. In the second part of my post, in the bolded sections, it is important to read where L actually said "if the other DT wants to check him, that's fine" the -other- dt.

I'm re-iterating something that Zona caught through this post. MY purpose is that we do not need to trust L. He almost had me convinced he wasn't the Godfather.... if he dies, and he's the detective, we can pretty much catch the Godfather.. Bloodyc0bbler. Bloodyc0bbler himself said that he only believed there would be one detective.

Speak up, guys

L, BloodyC0bbler


WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT?

maybe you all are used to liars in office, but i'm sick of it. it doesn't have to be this way.


I am hereby announcing my campaign for the Mayoral position. I pray that I am not diluting the mayoral pool with another town aligned player; it'd be nice if i didn't jeopardize the other truly town aligned players by taking votes from them, but that's the only way that I am for sure going to be able to stay alive in this game. Do the right things, guys, change the world and save my life.


1) Your bullshit here is obviously some self-serving stunt to survive.

2) No one should overtly claim until we have BG protection.

3) Given that you shouldn't run unless you have a role that can abuse the protection, did you just claim to be some form of blue?

4) Don't see how you're pro-town by building a candidacy purely on "I don't want to die and I don't like anyone else" without putting down any real non accusatory content.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 11 2010 14:18 GMT
#344
I'd love to survive and use everything within my power to protect this town. You have basically already claimed yourself, and if you were playing a game, it's not funny. The best reason to me is because if I was mafia, there's no way in hell my teammates would let me run for mayor. I am a guaranteed town aligned or town, or at the worst case scenario for you all bus driver (not knowing my alliance)

I guess I'm running on the "MY MAFIA WOULDN'T LET ME RUN FOR MAYOR" platform.

If i was mafia, they would want me to shut up, and rig the vote against L so they can maintain kp.
By running, I am telling you all through my actions that you can have a neighbor in office.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 11 2010 15:14 GMT
#345
What in the world..

Back up, foos. Let's step back and think. We have a bunch of people who are claiming non-townie roles running for mayor. We already have PM claims going on (what the hell?). All this is going to lead to some stupid days 2-3.

L you are being quite scummy tbh right now. You have to consider the effect of having only blues run for office. It gives the mafia a list of blues, lawl. But surely you know that. Coupled with your "fun role" insinuation which is almost surely not a DT, I have to wonder what you're really doing . . .
It doesn't add up, brah
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 11 2010 15:41 GMT
#346
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.
Adonai bless
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 11 2010 15:45 GMT
#347
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 11 2010 16:04 GMT
#348
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 11 2010 16:11 GMT
#349
On March 12 2010 01:04 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.


wrong wrong wrong
why are you voting because they claimed they are not green? That is stupid. Anyone can do that, nobody can be verified. You should vote on those that seem the least scummy/most likely to be innocent. And yes they'll likely end up blue given the format but them claiming so should not be affecting your decision
Look at the plans they've proposed, look at their participation in the thread and how they respond to other's questions.
I wouldn't be voting for L if I were you
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 16:35 GMT
#350
Why the hell someone would roleclaim in PM to specific people already (BC to vivi) is beyond me. I would really like to hear BC about that.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 11 2010 16:43 GMT
#351
On March 12 2010 01:11 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 01:04 citi.zen wrote:
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.


wrong wrong wrong
why are you voting because they claimed they are not green? That is stupid. Anyone can do that, nobody can be verified. You should vote on those that seem the least scummy/most likely to be innocent. And yes they'll likely end up blue given the format but them claiming so should not be affecting your decision
Look at the plans they've proposed, look at their participation in the thread and how they respond to other's questions.
I wouldn't be voting for L if I were you

You're right: anyone can relo-claim. Would you (or anyone else) like to step up?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 11 2010 16:52 GMT
#352
On March 12 2010 01:43 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 01:11 JeeJee wrote:
On March 12 2010 01:04 citi.zen wrote:
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.


wrong wrong wrong
why are you voting because they claimed they are not green? That is stupid. Anyone can do that, nobody can be verified. You should vote on those that seem the least scummy/most likely to be innocent. And yes they'll likely end up blue given the format but them claiming so should not be affecting your decision
Look at the plans they've proposed, look at their participation in the thread and how they respond to other's questions.
I wouldn't be voting for L if I were you

You're right: anyone can relo-claim. Would you (or anyone else) like to step up?


what's the point?
You still haven't answered why you are choosing to vote for the claimers solely because they're, well, claiming.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 11 2010 16:55 GMT
#353
On March 11 2010 11:45 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 11:34 Incognito wrote:
On March 11 2010 11:12 L wrote:
ermm, ace was innocent last game so that example actually goes against your argument.
Yeah, hence why Ace's actions were misleading. But the issue is that while he looked like the GF, he wasn't fooling anyone but the town. In the end he got shot for it.

If a member of the mafia wins mayor/pardonner, isn't it GUARANTEED that he'll be the Godfather?
Not even remotely. Mafia can grab both spots, put the goon in the mayor role, have him swing around with his 3 votes for a day or 2, then have the GF pardoner gain credibility by pushing the lynch of the mayor. Then lategame comes, we're in a lylo situation and... oh shit, we can't lynch because he pardons.

The reason why they can't is the threat of having DTs check both, yet people are here saying "well, its useless to check". Wrong. checking is the threat itself, and there's a 100% chance that you find someone legit in either mayor or pardoner.

If the GF goes up, what role does he take? What if his counterpart is blue and gets confirmed through role usage? Can the GF have his team hit the BGs in order to take out the confirmed protected blue? If he does, he needs to kill both BGs or reveal a goon (or just reveals a goon), then he needs a GOOD reason for why HE isn't dead the next day.

Either way, the threat of checking both elected positions is massive, especially because if a GF doesn't run, then you have a set of DTs and protected blues that have tools to confirm each other. A medic mayor, for instance, who blocks a hit is a huge "oh shit" moment for mafia. Letting two potential blues have that position is also huge. Additionally, there's the question of 'what blue'? Who does the GF take? If he's a safe role, why would he run for mayor? If he's an active role, he needs to lie carefully and can be found out if he tries to claim.

And that's another point; Pretty much any blue that gets elected is probably going to claim immediately. So the GF can't fucking putz around.

You guys simply don't see how powerful having a blue office holder that can be checked is. Qatol was shitting bricks about it earlier, which is why the BGs are public, but we can abuse that too. Just wait, champs. Think for a bit and build a strategy given our game format; its highly abusable.


Uh a bit confusing here. But what happens if the GF just picks green? Nothing to prove and nothing to hide. How do we abuse that instance?

Why the fuck are you running for mayor as green?


L "Admitting" he's blue, by scolding incog about running for mayor as green. His logic makes a little sense....we can only confirm greens on death....Riiiiight....Okay...So lets vote L...

On March 11 2010 13:52 Vivi57 wrote:
citizen, I agree with L. In a game where we can have CONFIRMED blues in office, only the blues should be running. Yes, it sucks if the mafia manage to get the gf into office, but the power of having an unkillable blue is just too much to pass up on. Having a green run also dilutes the pro town votes towards mayor

NO

This IS NOT HOW THINGS WORK.
Let's just give all of our power roles away?! Lulz! FTW.

Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 11 2010 17:21 GMT
#354
L you are being quite scummy tbh right now. You have to consider the effect of having only blues run for office. It gives the mafia a list of blues, lawl. But surely you know that. Coupled with your "fun role" insinuation which is almost surely not a DT, I have to wonder what you're really doing . . .
It doesn't add up, brah
Not really.

It seems pretty obvious that a number of the people running probably aren't blue; I didn't tell people not to run if they're green prior to after pretty much all of the competitive candidates already threw their hat in the ring; the question is whether or not they think they should push for the role after thinking about the game format. This game format is interesting because despite the fact that the offices can be confirmed, they can also be easily disposed of because of the bodyguard issues. If cobbler's a DT, I think its best for him to push. If Incog is green, I think its better for him to just step out of the race. If bill murray.. well no one cares there. If one of us are mafia, we're getting elected; Period. The question would be which of the innocents is getting in? Its also possible that no mafia get in if they decide to simply not make a run for office, which happens too.

The alternative position, again, is that someone who's green can run for, say, pardoner, then have himself killed in order to get an ordered roleclaim started. I find it unlikely that anyone besides me would have the balls to do this because: 1) Ver's not in the game. 2) Showtime's not in the game 3) Judge is not in the game.

The key point, however, is that medics can prevent a lot of mafia kp from getting through; If the medic protects the bgs under attack, it would take 2 full turns to break through the bodyguards, then a doublestack to kill the office member in play.

That however, relies on the ability of us to focus our only medic on the BGs, which means that roleclaimed non-office blues present us with protection problems; Unless we have a bus claim to a confirmed office member, we can't really protect both extra and intra office blues. This is why I didn't want people explicitly claiming, and that's why it didn't matter if I said people shouldn't run as green: the candidacies were already in and no one had claimed at that point, so we were ironclad.

If you guys think that my refusal to tell you what role I am is presents some sort of odd scumtell; you're retarded. You guys simply haven't been thinking about how to win. There's more to mafia than not have town members die; you need to develop a plan forward with the aim of winning otherwise you lose. This game has no clues, it has no list checks, it has very little kp on both teams. Its going to last for quite a while, so think ahead to days 3-4. Unlike in previous games wherein the game is basically over by then, that's simply not the case here. I personally have a plan that's almost assured to have us win. Once elected, I want a DT check thrown at me with a PM once they know my role. At that point, it should be pretty obvious what I'm trying to do from the DT's perspective and the town will have a relatively safe way to roleclaim.

That said, there's a potential mafia bus driver problem, but I can get around that if I'm elected by using our bus and a few pms. I'll explain further during the night, and I'll need a few people to trust me, but if everything works out the game's pretty much won for town.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 11 2010 17:31 GMT
#355
On March 11 2010 23:03 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 18:34 Bill Murray wrote:
He insinuated he was a detective, and BloodyC0bbler PM'ed Vivi57 (so vivi says) saying he was a detective too. In my post above, in the top spoiler, BloodyC0bbler says he doubts that there would be more than 1 detective with the amount of rolechecks he can do in the current system. I would also rather someone PM claim than try to claim on the thread by hinting at something. In the second part of my post, in the bolded sections, it is important to read where L actually said "if the other DT wants to check him, that's fine" the -other- dt.

I'm re-iterating something that Zona caught through this post. MY purpose is that we do not need to trust L. He almost had me convinced he wasn't the Godfather.... if he dies, and he's the detective, we can pretty much catch the Godfather.. Bloodyc0bbler. Bloodyc0bbler himself said that he only believed there would be one detective.

Speak up, guys

L, BloodyC0bbler


WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT?

maybe you all are used to liars in office, but i'm sick of it. it doesn't have to be this way.


I am hereby announcing my campaign for the Mayoral position. I pray that I am not diluting the mayoral pool with another town aligned player; it'd be nice if i didn't jeopardize the other truly town aligned players by taking votes from them, but that's the only way that I am for sure going to be able to stay alive in this game. Do the right things, guys, change the world and save my life.


1) Your bullshit here is obviously some self-serving stunt to survive.

2) No one should overtly claim until we have BG protection.

3) Given that you shouldn't run unless you have a role that can abuse the protection, did you just claim to be some form of blue?

4) Don't see how you're pro-town by building a candidacy purely on "I don't want to die and I don't like anyone else" without putting down any real non accusatory content.

I now feel L is mafia.

-_-
At any rate, him or BC is probably. Having them Role Check each other won't work either. FML.

Sorry L, he caught you claiming DT on day one. Sorry you didn't do it "overtly," but you indirectly claimed DT, which might as well be doing it directly if we caught on.

Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 11 2010 17:42 GMT
#356
On March 12 2010 01:52 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 01:43 citi.zen wrote:
On March 12 2010 01:11 JeeJee wrote:
On March 12 2010 01:04 citi.zen wrote:
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.


wrong wrong wrong
why are you voting because they claimed they are not green? That is stupid. Anyone can do that, nobody can be verified. You should vote on those that seem the least scummy/most likely to be innocent. And yes they'll likely end up blue given the format but them claiming so should not be affecting your decision
Look at the plans they've proposed, look at their participation in the thread and how they respond to other's questions.
I wouldn't be voting for L if I were you

You're right: anyone can relo-claim. Would you (or anyone else) like to step up?


what's the point?
You still haven't answered why you are choosing to vote for the claimers solely because they're, well, claiming.


OK, let me slow it down:

what's the point?


Claiming a role is not without consequence or cost. It's simply not the case that "anyone can do it", just for fun.

You still haven't answered why you are choosing to vote for the claimers solely because they're, well, claiming


This has already been addressed by BC, myself, L, Incognito multiple times. Cliff-note version:

* At some point a blue role, unlike a green, can be verified through a night action.
* Early to mid game having a blue in office for town >>> having a red in office for mafia (the town kills through lynching, bodyguards are useless). Late game the extra votes matter more for mafia of course.
* The DT is pretty powerful in this version, thanks to the unlimited checks. No reason to risk losing them, even if I don't think BC or L are 100% blue.
* Even if someone lies to get elected, that position will force them to post more and leave a thicker trail. Generally good for town.
* MOAR stuff I don't feel like typing if you're not going to read anyway.

Also, somewhere in L's long post there's this:

Once elected, I want a DT check thrown at me with a PM once they know my role. At that point, it should be pretty obvious what I'm trying to do from the DT's perspective and the town will have a relatively safe way to roleclaim.


Don't do that DT. If you want to role-check him fine, but then wait for further proof before giving yourself away. Keep in mind the GF is only chosen after the mafia already knows if the won/lost the election.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 11 2010 17:42 GMT
#357
On March 12 2010 02:21 L wrote:
That however, relies on the ability of us to focus our only medic on the BGs, which means that roleclaimed non-office blues present us with protection problems; Unless we have a bus claim to a confirmed office member, we can't really protect both extra and intra office blues. This is why I didn't want people explicitly claiming, and that's why it didn't matter if I said people shouldn't run as green: the candidacies were already in and no one had claimed at that point, so we were ironclad.

If you guys think that my refusal to tell you what role I am is presents some sort of odd scumtell; you're retarded. You guys simply haven't been thinking about how to win. There's more to mafia than not have town members die; you need to develop a plan forward with the aim of winning otherwise you lose. This game has no clues, it has no list checks, it has very little kp on both teams. Its going to last for quite a while, so think ahead to days 3-4. Unlike in previous games wherein the game is basically over by then, that's simply not the case here. I personally have a plan that's almost assured to have us win. Once elected, I want a DT check thrown at me with a PM once they know my role. At that point, it should be pretty obvious what I'm trying to do from the DT's perspective and the town will have a relatively safe way to roleclaim.

That said, there's a potential mafia bus driver problem, but I can get around that if I'm elected by using our bus and a few pms. I'll explain further during the night, and I'll need a few people to trust me, but if everything works out the game's pretty much won for town.

It ignores the Bus Driver of doom, occuring on the BGs. Using them against role check of mayor = stupid. Bus driving a BG, = Smart. Needs coordination though, but like I said, Vivi is the Bus Driver.
=P
The don Boss L?

Bad idea for the "other dt." Don't PM him. We can't trust him. Well fuck it. Pm him. If you show up dead we kill L. Plain and simple. DO IT, DO IT!!!!! Seriously, I'll follow through with that revenge lynch even if the dt dies by random. 2/20 people and dt gets picked, FAIL.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 11 2010 17:44 GMT
#358
FML DID NOT MEAN TO POST THAT RIGHT THERE

Arghhhh Now another post to post in the fucking archives ><

On March 11 2010 14:03 Incognito wrote:
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On March 11 2010 14:00 L wrote:
On March 11 2010 13:58 Incognito wrote:
Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain?

Anybody care to explain why these phantom voters like you/cobbler over me?



You're getting a decent amount of love. You and I have been posting frequently enough. But BC seems to have just made one giant post and then not that much else since.


One giant post that ran in circles and didn't truly say much iirc...
On March 11 2010 14:27 Vivi57 wrote:
oh and I think it'll be very obvious very quickly if he's trying to pull fake rolechecks

I GOT BUS DRIVET'd

-_-

Seriously...That's the only argument the mayor/pardoner has to make if they say they used their ability (medic) and still died.
Whomever the detective is, RC whoever the mayor/pardoner claims to have "protected." If they are DT, rc who ever they rc.

p.s. Flamewheel, their shoulda been 3 bg's, or only one bus driver lol
=(

On March 11 2010 14:49 johnnyspazz wrote:
as long as both of them aren't green or red, i think our town is bound to win!

Mayor can be killed by night 2.

Very easily. Not to mention one of the BG's could be mafia.

On March 11 2010 15:32 Vivi57 wrote:
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On March 11 2010 14:32 L wrote:
On March 11 2010 14:27 Vivi57 wrote:
oh and I think it'll be very obvious very quickly if he's trying to pull fake rolechecks

So you're basically trying to claim DT for him without him actually claiming it.

OK.

I'm going to sleep, but this is pretty hilarious.

No I *am* claiming dt for him

you've claimed "not green" and expect to be mayor, don't really see much difference.


Stop being retarded. Believing him that he is DT....

He just showtime'd you. And you'll be butt hurt by the end of the game. And think about it, WHY would he claim to you. Because you look townie? I does it for the Lulz.
On March 11 2010 18:01 Bill Murray wrote:
is it just me or are L and BloodyC0bbler both claiming DT?

I'd like to reference this post: "+ Show Spoiler +
there are most likely only 1 of each blue role, i would keep that in mind. 2 meds could perma protect someone in this game, so most likely only one. Dt's have unlimited rc's so most likely only 1. Hatter has 2 kp (with bombs) so most likely is only one hatter, or 1-2 vigi's as having both roles would have too high a KP (would be more than the mafia in one night). Possibly 1 vet, millers 1-2.
"


Do you want a Mafia mayor? Why are you all voting for BloodyC0bbler or L? We need to have neither of them in office, or at most one as pardoner, and figure out which of them is the real detective based upon SOMEONE ELSE roleclaiming through a hit or protection. We can PM one of them to check that person, and they only have a certain percentage of guessing it correctly if they are mafia.

Given this turn of events, I feel it is necessary for Incognito and PREFERABLY someone else to be in office together. When I say someone else, I mean someone needs to step up to the plate and garner the town's votes. I don't trust either one of these guys until we can confirm them. I am more wary of a donkey in a lion's skin than the actual lion himself.

in response to : + Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2010 12:40 Zona wrote:
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On March 11 2010 12:26 citi.zen wrote:
On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote:
I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town. Mafia will be forced to burn through bodyguards, and if they have a member he'll become pretty obvious after the kill.

So yeah, I'm still planning on killing Bill Murray and I think I'm a pretty cool guy, so vote for me.

In terms of plans; You guys must be joking if you think that killing the town driver is a good idea. The town driver can literally swap mafia hit BACK AT MAFIA. ITS ABSOLUTELY BALLS OFF THE WALL AWESOME.

After I'm elected, I've got a small roleclaim based play to go with; I'll ask DTs to check certain people during the night so that we can get groups started. Should be a pretty simple game from there.


Might as well roleclaim at this point so we can confirm you one way or another. Or not. You've said too much already and are a mafia target anyway. If you are DT I do not want you dead.

Considering his sentence includes "the other DT"...it seems like he's claiming DT.

The thing is - we probably only have one DT.


It's pretty clear that hes outlining a scenario with two dt's not RCing. L will run for office in any game, and specifically said he had a fun role, that would more imply he got a KP role, or bus driver.

The example of the "other dt" or "second dt" has already been used by multiple people thus far.


Really, L?
I believe the last game got to your head.
I like you, I'm sorry it happened that way, my bad.
I was wrong.

"Fun Role" = The Boss, Mafia Godfather!
But BM, reread what you're quoting, and holy fuck. L did claim DT too. hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. BC and L claiming DT?!

This is epic. Because we all know L would get the GF role if he was mafia, as would BC. Lololol. It's a guarantee now, even if one loses the election. But that's just fucking great if we got two DT's this game and they both just Role claimed.
About the amounts in the game, remember tho BM, that's just a thought. That isn't concrete. Another suggestion had like 2 of almost every role that seemed just as plausibly, so stop arguing against voting them. Mayor's are EASILY killed this game. That's the easy part.

AND AMAZING CATCH BM. AMAZING.

and you're the only one who noticed that he not only claimed blue, but claimed DT...Do remember though, this is how L got redtooth in Incog's game cuz redtooth made a syntax error in a post and it was like he "admitted" he was mafia....

But regardless "the other dt can check me" is kind of a bold statement.

I didn't notice L said that.
And also, if a miller gets office, LULZ.

Oh, and Vivi for Mafia aligned bus driver. That's my guess for this game.
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.

We can't afford medic protection on them. maybe bus driver....But we can't protect them. Protection is for the BG's...
The town will be forced to play this without our "vets" that we love.

GG, L, Incog, BC. If any of you live without being mayor (one of you most certainly will live through atleast one night), I shall be greatly surprised.

Deadly format for cruelty, but face it everyone, we all must step up and go after the mafia. Even if they aren't here to help us. So, with that said, if the vets would like to post some ideas that we should follow to win with this format, please do!
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 11 2010 17:49 GMT
#359
I'm still wondering how the name of "bus driver" came into this game, though it makes for epic lulz.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 11 2010 17:55 GMT
#360
It ignores the Bus Driver of doom
No it doesn't. I even mention it in your quote.

Instead of vomiting out a bunch of text, feel free to actually read what I've written. I've said a few things that a number of people seem to be ignoring, but I find it interesting that people soldier on assuming that they're reading carefully when they clearly aren't.
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