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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 11 2010 05:03 GMT
#321
On March 11 2010 14:00 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 13:58 Incognito wrote:
Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain?

Anybody care to explain why these phantom voters like you/cobbler over me?



You're getting a decent amount of love. You and I have been posting frequently enough. But BC seems to have just made one giant post and then not that much else since.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 11 2010 05:05 GMT
#322
On March 11 2010 14:02 Vivi57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 13:58 Incognito wrote:
Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain?

he roleclaimed to me. I could roleclaim for him in the thread if you want.


Wha wha what?? That seems way more fishy than L's partial claim...Don't bother claiming for him. Just think about what you've done...and state your logical reason why you should believe said claim.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 11 2010 05:08 GMT
#323
1) I didn't claim shit. Other people claimed for me and if you bothered to read I said they're not entirely correct.

2) ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DAY ONE PM CLAIMS. THIS SHIT IS OFF THE CHAIN.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 11 2010 05:13 GMT
#324
On March 11 2010 13:45 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 13:28 JeeJee wrote:
On March 11 2010 12:57 Fulgrim wrote:
On March 11 2010 12:35 citi.zen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
From: Fulgrim [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Bonjour
Date: 3/11/10 12:26
Tu es rouge oui? C'est la verite? J'espere que je ne mort pas la derniere nuit.
Reply


Keep'em coming.


I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone.


let's put my french course to work from like 7 years ago >.<
you're red yes? it's the truth? something something dead last night? or next night, idk
lol


The last sentence is: I hope I do not die the last night. Which doesn't make too much sense...but ok.

On a more serious note, suspects. Ah this thread is so...slow. As we all know, the mayor gets an autolynch. Anybody have opinions? I'd start off by prodding the people on the bottom of the activity list. Of course it could be that you haven't been around since the game has started yet. Anyway...

1. d3_crescentia
2. l10f
3. sidesprang
4. Fishball
5. Vivi57
6. Iaaan
7. Foolishness
8. ShoCkeyy
9. tree.hugger

All have under 5 posts. Including pre-game posts. I'd like to hear from all of you. We can't find the mafia if you guys don't post, ya know.


I'm here, just reading.
Looking at all the potential shit being stirred up.
靈魂交響曲
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 11 2010 05:21 GMT
#325
Reason why I voted for BloodyC0bbler:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2010 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As for mayoral elections.

I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for office.

With the setup of this game, and the fact elected positions can be RC'd, the elected positions are far more likely to end up in townie hands. This is a good thing, and I believe it is in our best interests to make sure town can get in.

I believe that I would be a good candidate because I have many games worth of experience, a few as an elected official, and others where I have have helped in the pinning of reds. I believe that from this experience I will be able to help the town quickly and hopefully bring about a swift end to the mafia.

The Plan:
The plan is simple. Whoever is elected (in this case I would love it to be me), but regardless, whoever is elected. The dt or dt's will both check the elected officials. I would say if your a dt and numbered 1-12 on the list, check the mayor, 13-25 check the pardoner. Instantly we have information. If they are a blue role you write it down. If they are red, speak up to someone (possibly wait a day to find a green person in a check). Reveal the findings, person dies.
If they are green, keep them on a seperate list.

Soon as you get two greens, RC them, and tell them who you checked and start a circle.
If you get blues. Keep that info to yourself until you need it proved. If you find a dt, make them check someone (most likely one you've checked to confirm), medic prot someone, vig hit someone, etc...

Anyone who flips red dies.

For all those who are not a dt. Constantly update your posts in the archive thread, and carefully analyze peoples posting behaviours. If you think something is a tell, or feel they are scummy, rather than just point a finger, really sit down and prove it. But be aware that if you cause the death of an important player and they flip town, you will prob quickly follow.

Medics, protect the bgs with your life. We will randomly pick one from the list of two, and then tell you to prot them.

Past protecting the bgs, no one talk to them in PM's, IM's, or IRC, period. They are not confirmable, do not associate with them. They can talk via thread, feel free to respond to them here, do not tell them anything.

Conclusion:
This game can be won very easily if we play it smart. I believe outside of my general plan to play, the reason I should be elected is I believe I will represent a threat to the mafia, which means they will have to actively try to remove me, which will give themselves away. If they don't I will continue to strengthen the town, and effectively force them to GG.


I be swayed by his rhetoric yo. This is a man with a plan. Lol. In all honesty though, I'd like to wait for more to be said before I make my final vote. Decided to post who I'm most leaning towards now (based on platform) just as a precaution in case I somehow miss the deadline and get lightning'd by flamewheel (he seems like he'd be trigger happy with it )
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 11 2010 05:25 GMT
#326
On March 11 2010 13:54 Incognito wrote:
These people have come out and have voted or posted in the archive thread, but have made less than 5 posts. This includes pre-game posts.

2. l10f
5. Vivi57
6. Iaaan
9. tree.hugger

Explanations appreciated.

I'm writing a paper on Kantian ethics, and reading the thread during breaks. I'll have some more time tomorrow. My reasons for voting for BC are somewhat unsteady at this point, I'll probably change it at some point when more candidates come out. He hasn't roleclaimed to me though, I just am annoyed at L for engineering my death in the last game, and I think you've contributed quite a bit so far, I haven't ruled you out either. But there are enough half baked ideas in this thread to make me wonder who is dictating strategy for who...

And this will be my fifth post in the thread at any rate. It's all good.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 11 2010 05:25 GMT
#327
don't see any reason *not* to believe it yet. bc insta claimed after I posted my dt mayor plan and then wrote up a long mayor post with effort put into it. If he was gf, he'd have to be thinking insanely fast to pull this off.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 11 2010 05:27 GMT
#328
oh and I think it'll be very obvious very quickly if he's trying to pull fake rolechecks
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 11 2010 05:32 GMT
#329
On March 11 2010 14:27 Vivi57 wrote:
oh and I think it'll be very obvious very quickly if he's trying to pull fake rolechecks

So you're basically trying to claim DT for him without him actually claiming it.

OK.

I'm going to sleep, but this is pretty hilarious.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 11 2010 05:49 GMT
#330
as long as both of them aren't green or red, i think our town is bound to win!
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 11 2010 05:58 GMT
#331
On March 11 2010 12:57 Fulgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 12:35 citi.zen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
From: Fulgrim [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Bonjour
Date: 3/11/10 12:26
Tu es rouge oui? C'est la verite? J'espere que je ne mort pas la derniere nuit.
Reply


Keep'em coming.


I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone.


My thoughts upon receiving that message were exactly the same: very proud of your French. Duh...
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 11 2010 06:32 GMT
#332
On March 11 2010 14:32 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 14:27 Vivi57 wrote:
oh and I think it'll be very obvious very quickly if he's trying to pull fake rolechecks

So you're basically trying to claim DT for him without him actually claiming it.

OK.

I'm going to sleep, but this is pretty hilarious.

No I *am* claiming dt for him

you've claimed "not green" and expect to be mayor, don't really see much difference.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 11 2010 08:53 GMT
#333
On March 11 2010 12:28 Iaaan wrote:
I would just like everyone to know that I have nothing to contribute at the moment, except that I agree with citi.zen that L should just roleclaim cause he will probably get killed anyway if he doesn't get elected and isn't mafia+we can hold him accountable if he does get elected, and that nemY likes men.


true dat, well the last part at least
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 11 2010 09:01 GMT
#334
is it just me or are L and BloodyC0bbler both claiming DT?

I'd like to reference this post: "+ Show Spoiler +
there are most likely only 1 of each blue role, i would keep that in mind. 2 meds could perma protect someone in this game, so most likely only one. Dt's have unlimited rc's so most likely only 1. Hatter has 2 kp (with bombs) so most likely is only one hatter, or 1-2 vigi's as having both roles would have too high a KP (would be more than the mafia in one night). Possibly 1 vet, millers 1-2.
"


Do you want a Mafia mayor? Why are you all voting for BloodyC0bbler or L? We need to have neither of them in office, or at most one as pardoner, and figure out which of them is the real detective based upon SOMEONE ELSE roleclaiming through a hit or protection. We can PM one of them to check that person, and they only have a certain percentage of guessing it correctly if they are mafia.

Given this turn of events, I feel it is necessary for Incognito and PREFERABLY someone else to be in office together. When I say someone else, I mean someone needs to step up to the plate and garner the town's votes. I don't trust either one of these guys until we can confirm them. I am more wary of a donkey in a lion's skin than the actual lion himself.

in response to : + Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2010 12:40 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 12:26 citi.zen wrote:
On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote:
I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town. Mafia will be forced to burn through bodyguards, and if they have a member he'll become pretty obvious after the kill.

So yeah, I'm still planning on killing Bill Murray and I think I'm a pretty cool guy, so vote for me.

In terms of plans; You guys must be joking if you think that killing the town driver is a good idea. The town driver can literally swap mafia hit BACK AT MAFIA. ITS ABSOLUTELY BALLS OFF THE WALL AWESOME.

After I'm elected, I've got a small roleclaim based play to go with; I'll ask DTs to check certain people during the night so that we can get groups started. Should be a pretty simple game from there.


Might as well roleclaim at this point so we can confirm you one way or another. Or not. You've said too much already and are a mafia target anyway. If you are DT I do not want you dead.

Considering his sentence includes "the other DT"...it seems like he's claiming DT.

The thing is - we probably only have one DT.


It's pretty clear that hes outlining a scenario with two dt's not RCing. L will run for office in any game, and specifically said he had a fun role, that would more imply he got a KP role, or bus driver.

The example of the "other dt" or "second dt" has already been used by multiple people thus far.


Really, L?
I believe the last game got to your head.
I like you, I'm sorry it happened that way, my bad.
I was wrong.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 11 2010 09:18 GMT
#335
On March 11 2010 14:08 L wrote:
1) I didn't claim shit. Other people claimed for me and if you bothered to read I said they're not entirely correct.

2) ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DAY ONE PM CLAIMS. THIS SHIT IS OFF THE CHAIN.


Nah dude. Even if you have some cutesy trick up your sleeve (TEE HEH) you're still insinuating that you're "not green" thus meaning you are either blue, red or a bus driver. You're making a play at mayor's office by essentially role-claiming. Quit being defensive and trying to put your bullshit back on someone else. Thanks.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 11 2010 09:34 GMT
#336
He insinuated he was a detective, and BloodyC0bbler PM'ed Vivi57 (so vivi says) saying he was a detective too. In my post above, in the top spoiler, BloodyC0bbler says he doubts that there would be more than 1 detective with the amount of rolechecks he can do in the current system. I would also rather someone PM claim than try to claim on the thread by hinting at something. In the second part of my post, in the bolded sections, it is important to read where L actually said "if the other DT wants to check him, that's fine" the -other- dt.

I'm re-iterating something that Zona caught through this post. MY purpose is that we do not need to trust L. He almost had me convinced he wasn't the Godfather.... if he dies, and he's the detective, we can pretty much catch the Godfather.. Bloodyc0bbler. Bloodyc0bbler himself said that he only believed there would be one detective.

Speak up, guys

L, BloodyC0bbler


WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT?

maybe you all are used to liars in office, but i'm sick of it. it doesn't have to be this way.


I am hereby announcing my campaign for the Mayoral position. I pray that I am not diluting the mayoral pool with another town aligned player; it'd be nice if i didn't jeopardize the other truly town aligned players by taking votes from them, but that's the only way that I am for sure going to be able to stay alive in this game. Do the right things, guys, change the world and save my life.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#337
No BM you are diluting the mayoral pool; resign while you're ahead.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#338
nty at bm

i'm all in favor of a bus driver/dt mayor/pardoner
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 11 2010 10:06 GMT
#339
Vivi57-

BloodyC0bbler: "No I *am* claiming dt for him"
L: "the other dt"

Where is a mention of a bus driver? You said he claimed DT. L implied he's a DT.
Explain this statement Vivi: "i'm all in favor of a bus driver/dt mayor/pardoner", using more than 1 sentence please.

Who is this mysterious bus driver you're talking about? If there's something you know that I don't, by all means...
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 11 2010 11:41 GMT
#340
Okay - is L backpedaling from his super heavy hinting that he's the DT? I don't like this. If you get elected and say "surprise, I'm not the DT" - I'll push for your lynch day 2.

This vivi57 DT claim on Bloodycobbler's behalf is also unsettling - what does bloodycobbler have to say about this? Maybe if the claim was by PM he wanted to gain supporters without going totally public with his claim? perhaps he want his claim to come under public scrutiny? why would you, vivi57, share this tidbit when bloodycobbler clearly wasn't going public on his own with his claim? also - did his PM with his claim come before or after L heavily implied he himself was a DT?

still, these are good developments. we've got people making statements that can eventually be checked to see who's lying. especially statements involving 2 people who will likely be pretty active players.

nemY - you can't abstain in this game. so no fence sitting for you - make a real vote so that your actions can be examined later on.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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