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On October 28 2009 18:10 Scamp wrote:
I have a question for Amber[Light]. What is your opinion of Motbob, Judge, Myself, and Pyrr?
If you looked back a few pages you could tell that I originally thought Judge and Motbob were mafia because they were working with Ace (whom I suspected). When Ace died I was unsure how to take his rolecheck for Judge and in my eyes it was highly probable that he was not actually a paramedic, but I honestly thought he was a townie.
Motbob is still suspicious to me, only because his inactivity did bother me a bit. I understand his grandfather died, but there's still something that's bothering me. Either he's a blue who Qatol needed a night action from or he was a red who had a really good excuse not to post. I really wish we knew more information about him and why Ace saved him. If anyone actually knew why he pardoned him please tell us.
Up until last night I would have said Pyrr is not mafia. I trust him a lot this game so I am not sure if I believe he's not mafia because of my insane amount of trust in him, or because he's been taking proper steps to help the town. Honestly the confirmation kill would have been to lynch Motbob to figure this out. They both can't be mafia if Pyrr wanted to lynch him on Day 1. It also seems unlikely that Pyrr wanted to lynch motbob and then told Ace to pardon him because they didn't seem to work together at all.
Scamp I can't gauge whether you're a townie or mafia. Everyone in this game is connected to another player depending on who they accuse, who they vote for, and how they post. It's not good if you have so few posts that are neutral. It doesn't give us any reading on you.
I voted for Vivi57 for the lynch simply because I'm going to allow someone else make the call today. I'll admit I fucked up pushing for Ace yesterday, but I took a path that the town had taken in the past with RCing Detectives.
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On October 28 2009 22:20 Shikyo wrote:
Right now, I don't really see how Chezinu is mafia, at least more than like Vivi. Care to explain?
Also that PM.
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On October 28 2009 22:51 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 22:20 Shikyo wrote:
Right now, I don't really see how Chezinu is mafia, at least more than like Vivi. Care to explain? He's being blatantly useless in all his posts, which is what he did when he was mafia. Maybe he does that all the time.
I guess the question is what is he doing in this brown forum thing.
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The reason to vote vivi57 has expired, but I can't really change my vote right now...
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guys sorry for my lack of posting but i'm a bit busy. i haven't read through everything but i'll vote vivi because he's stupid.
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On October 29 2009 02:54 redtooth wrote:
because he's stupid.
That is always your reason for voting someone.
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On October 28 2009 17:18 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 16:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On October 28 2009 16:14 Scamp wrote:
I can say it's wrong because I read the day post. There may not be any clues in it but people are still going to die the way they died. You mean to tell me that Ver took a Mad Hatter hit and made it look like the mafia did it? it's difficult to say because there are supposed to be no clues. However I think you are correct: Incog's death was written before df's death. This basically means it was chronologically first. How could df bombs blow up Incog before df died? (they can't) To further expound on this: in the Day post it explicitly says " the mafia had sealed the exits." Incognito was not killed by the mad hatter bomb. L was either a) hit by a vig b) hit by the other bomb c) not hit and is lying My initial posts were incorrect. If the vig (i say the, there is most certainly not more than 1 if any) did hit L he should speak up. If there is no vig we narrow down the possibilities to b or c. RoL. I find it curious that you were so quick to correct me on my initial and incidentally logical reaction...
I would actually like to take back what I said earlier. I never actually read the day post. I figured there were no clues so there was no point. However I didn't think in regards to how people were killed.
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EBWOP: I read the clues, both mention fire so I guess its possible they were both DF, but seeing as they are different paragraphs I would say they are different kills. Chances are the medic blocked DF's second bomb, L absorbed a hit as a Vet (and wants to cover that his one life is missing from the mafia) or he is a mafia who is faking.
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It's pretty obvious chezinu is playing with the attitude, "I don't care who we kill, as long as it isn't me"
unless he believes me, redtooth, *and* scamp are mafia, his voting indicates he doesn't give a shit if we lynch a townie and he only cares about staying alive.
This leaves two possibilities:
1. he's playing really really badly, driving the town towards a loss
2. he's mafia, and it doesn't really matter who gets lynched because any non mafia death benefits him
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okay lol, i am high as a kite and i have four bleeding crevices in my mouth.
I am not confirmed via hits, do not claim to me, please. The medic took a leap of faith in trusting me, but that doesn't mean everyone else should. That is why I asked a DT to check me to verify that I am what I say i am. Once sanities are confirmed I can organize a circle, but until then I'd suggest people don't risk anything.
Now, time to read around.
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On October 29 2009 05:02 Vivi57 wrote:
It's pretty obvious chezinu is playing with the attitude, "I don't care who we kill, as long as it isn't me"
unless he believes me, redtooth, *and* scamp are mafia, his voting indicates he doesn't give a shit if we lynch a townie and he only cares about staying alive.
This leaves two possibilities:
1. he's playing really really badly, driving the town towards a loss
2. he's mafia, and it doesn't really matter who gets lynched because any non mafia death benefits him
You're doing the exact same thing by trying to wagon him when you had a wagon on you.
Regardless of anyone's role, its always in their best interest to not die unless there's a plan that's much larger than them swirling around. (someone being targetted for DT checks, for instance, during this game).
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United States2186 Posts
Looks like Liquidia is a ghost town
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On October 29 2009 07:38 Ver wrote:
Looks like Liquidia is a ghost town
More like a town of the undead! I still roam the streets!
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On October 29 2009 07:47 Qatol wrote:More like a town of the undead! I still roam the streets!
And I already know I'm a vampire!
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Current standings (tiebreaks included):
Chezinu: 4
Vivi57: 4
redtooth: 2
Abstain: 1
No vote: 5
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Alrighty this has gone on long enough. You guys are lynching with little to no proof. At least the people voting against Redtooth have a case to be made. I, in fact, might go along with that except I have a more important accusation to make.
I believe that L is mafia.
I will quote some posts in my next post. But in general I notice that everyone seems to agree that he is an amazing player and can bring the mafia to their knees just by glancing at them. But he has done nothing. He's barely even TRIED to do anything. If he's supposed to be the leader of the town then he's leading it nowhere. He hasn't even voted to lynch anyone. Unless there's a lot going on behind the scenes that I'm not aware of, I see no reason why he's vital to the town. Why did Incognito have L on his 2-person medic list?
If he wanted to be helpful to the town, why is he claiming to be the veteran now? Why not earlier when we had a plan to utilize the veterans? Why did he let that plan die? What's his plan to replace it......nothing. We're going after Vivi and Chezinu with little to no evidence by anyone. Heck, Ace constantly talks about how bad of a player he thinks Vivi is and he didn't go after him either. On top of that, there is no need for him to roleclaim Vet if a medic saved him.
Another example on how L has done nothing is myself. He said he was going to 100 percent lynch me if he was elected mayor. After that.....nothing. He's barely glanced in my direction since.
Finally: his claim. Guess what guys, I took a hit last night and a medic saved me too. Obviously the medic doesn't want to reveal himself. Alright, this is a complete lie, but other than me telling you this there is no way to prove it's not true.
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I don't want to sound suspicious by throwing the town back and forth, but this had to be brought up, and apparently I am not breaking rules by doing this after all..
All right then, I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure something out now... maybe town can help better... So here I lay out my thoughts as best I can..
I know that Vivi and Redtooth are on the same team because they both checked as blue, meaning they're the same color. Since the town has been adamant about one or the other having been red almost all game, I figured that blue meant red (implying I'm either paranoid or crooked).
However, and this is something I really don't know how to explain, but with a little help from a PM from tricode made a bit of sense... I have had a gut feeling that Shikyo is doing a hella good job as GF and been playing me this whole time since I generally trust him ever since the game where he was Mayer and I was Mafia. Additionally, Tricode mentioned that Pyrr has still been acting suspiciously and thus could be red (fitting with needing a vet on the mafia team) and then there's Chez, whom others have been saying is acting exactly like when he was red in another game....
This kind of leaves us with two options, each of which has nearly equal consequences:
1) I am right about my sanity, due to town and my own observations we somehow managed to find two living red players that I conveniently checked and saw they are on the same team.
2) I'm totally wrong about my sanity and my gut feelings should be used..
In the case of (2) we would end up voting with something based on a gut feeling instead of possible fact, perhaps nabbing a mafia, and of course everyone would like a red team of Pyrr, Chez, and Shikyo better than a red team of Vivi57, redtooth, Scamp which has no obvious vet players (since we must add judge) ... the latter option of course would confirm my sanity, be more unbelievable, and possibly not get us any mafia killed.
If Pyrr had bothered to tell us the bodyguards, and pretend it's Vivi and Redtooth for a moment, well for some miraculous reason I checked them and they are on the same team.. meaning that mafia subbed in two reds or no reds.. which Pyrr of course couldn't tell us (and sure wouldn't if he was red ^_^)
I seriously don't know what to do with these checks, and I can obviously only confirm that they are on the same team since they both came up blue (meaning one of them is NOT the GF) and just now I realized that one could be a non-red and the other a godfather..
I really don't know how to interpret this now.. I was so sure before, but now I'm lost.. please help town :/
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motbob
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On October 29 2009 08:40 Scamp wrote:
Alrighty this has gone on long enough. You guys are lynching with little to no proof.
No shit. That's the nature of this game. Without clues it's almost impossible to get a rock solid case against someone.
At least the people voting against Redtooth have a case to be made. I, in fact, might go along with that except I have a more important accusation to make.
I believe that L is mafia.
I will quote some posts in my next post. But in general I notice that everyone seems to agree that he is an amazing player and can bring the mafia to their knees just by glancing at them. But he has done nothing. He's barely even TRIED to do anything. If he's supposed to be the leader of the town then he's leading it nowhere. He hasn't even voted to lynch anyone. Unless there's a lot going on behind the scenes that I'm not aware of, I see no reason why he's vital to the town. Why did Incognito have L on his 2-person medic list?
Because, uh, everyone thinks he's an amazing player, which is what you just said? That said, L on the medic list does look a little suspicious.
If he wanted to be helpful to the town, why is he claiming to be the veteran now? Why not earlier when we had a plan to utilize the veterans? Why did he let that plan die? What's his plan to replace it......nothing. We're going after Vivi and Chezinu with little to no evidence by anyone. Heck, Ace constantly talks about how bad of a player he thinks Vivi is and he didn't go after him either. On top of that, there is no need for him to roleclaim Vet if a medic saved him.
Another example on how L has done nothing is myself. He said he was going to 100 percent lynch me if he was elected mayor. After that.....nothing. He's barely glanced in my direction since.
Finally: his claim. Guess what guys, I took a hit last night and a medic saved me too. Obviously the medic doesn't want to reveal himself. Alright, this is a complete lie, but other than me telling you this there is no way to prove it's not true.
TBH we can win without a "plan." We can just do behavioral analysis and if everyone is active enough we can win.
I don't like a lot of what you said in this post. However, I think that the main point, which is that L's roleclaim is suspicious and he may be mafia, is possibly true. Doesn't it make sense for a mafia member to claim vet? There was a lot of pressure for any vets to claim, and they did not. Therefore the assumption might have been that there are no vets and it was safe for mafia to claim that role.
L, please explian why you didn't claim earlier.
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On October 23 2009 08:41 L wrote:
Oh, also, if it wasn't blatantly obvious, I'm going to be killing scamp because he is 100% replicating his mafia textbook 'shut up and say nothing after a comment or two on day 1" and people aren't talking about it.
Accusing tricode got him into retard townie mode which pretty much confirmed what he was to me, but the way people reacted to his blather was far more worthwhile than I had hoped.
In other news; please don't let me die tonight :3, i'm getting tired of being killed early in every game. (specially if you're a jerk like caller and make me die in the worst way possible).
In other news, I'm specifically sick of hearing L whine about getting killed early in every game. This is what clued me in to the fact that he may be mafia. What he's basically saying is that he's such a good player that the mafia should give him time to rape their faces. Or he's making an excuse for why he's still around later in the game.
Also, there I am. What about me?
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.
Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.
I guess the plan was to push Ace's death, even though you voted him in and stated that you were glad to do so. In fact, I'd be happy to know that there is a plan somewhere in this thread, because I didn't really see one from you.
On October 28 2009 11:59 L wrote:
Okay, so here's the story for everyone that doesn't know what went down last night:
I was hit and saved by a medic. I'm also the (a?) veteran.
If there's another DT, and I actually think there is given how weak DTs are this game, please verify me if you are close to establish your sanity so that we can make a ring of confirmed blues. If you checked Ace to determine what blue would show up as, you have enough locked down to prove me innocent. I am not fully confirmed as of yet because the hatter bombs that went off make it possible that I was hit by the hatter and not the mafia. Given that I've died on day 2 for the past like.. 5 games, I'm rather happy to be alive right now regardless.
The medic, for obvious reasons, does not want a name dropped because they would die next night. I'm currently thinking over if revealing the name and having a confirmed townie for a day is worth it. I'm not going to take any decision without the medic's consent either.
So that's the story boys and girls. Poke holes, get angry at me for not claiming earlier (i got reasons, yo), etc.
I'm sure you're happy to be alive. That's why you've done nothing. Did any of the DTs rolecheck Ace? Of course not, it would reveal that he's the pardoner. You correct this mistake later (with the help of your "medic friend") but you actually pointed out that Ace and Pyrr could not be checked earlier in this thread. Here it is!
On October 25 2009 05:36 L wrote: And receive back Pardoner/Mayor. Awesome.
So that's it for now. Please defend yourself.
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Pyrr, why are you using 2 votes this time?
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