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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
October 17 2020 13:34 GMT
#561
They need to ban the Sion
Taxes are for Terrans
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:35:28
October 17 2020 13:35 GMT
#562
Well shit. I thought Fnatic had it. Sion seems unbeatable though.
Off-season = best season
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 13:35 GMT
#563
They're on blue side if they want it, they don't even have to ban it. Hell this game they willingly chose to give it away and blind Ornn instead
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:37:17
October 17 2020 13:35 GMT
#564
I'd say counterpick Sion, there must be good counters to him, no?
TES waits for the Ornn to counterpick him. Either ban, fp or go red side and counterpick toplane. You don't have many other choices, because it's this singular pick that's completely throwing FNC off.
Taxes are for Terrans
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:39:45
October 17 2020 13:39 GMT
#565
I mean, it's just Sion. The problem was in Fnatic's damage composition, he's not worth a ban.
You're now breathing manually
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 17 2020 13:40 GMT
#566
Fnatic is going to lose the series, aren't they.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 13:41 GMT
#567
On October 17 2020 22:40 DarkCore wrote:
Fnatic is going to lose the series, aren't they.


Always has been TT
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:44:23
October 17 2020 13:43 GMT
#568
On October 17 2020 22:39 Sent. wrote:
I mean, it's just Sion. The problem was in Fnatic's damage composition, he's not worth a ban.


You solve this with Botrk/Runaans/Last whisper on Ashe and Black Cleaver on Graves.
I understand the crit build path, but it's not online until 4 items once you actually also get the LW against the Sion. Fights are too front to back with the Sion for them to get damage on Senna/Jayce/Nidalee here.

Which champs would you suggest to cut through the Sion by the way?
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:50:06
October 17 2020 13:49 GMT
#569
Hard to build the Cleaver on Graves though vs Nidalee. You're giving up a lot of skirmish power.

I think the play for Fnatic is baiting the Karsa Nidalee and taking the real favored Eve matchup. Then your damage composition looks way nicer and the tank top can't just greed build Ninja Tabis + sunfire + frozen heart.

But I think that might be hard to draft; TES has been careful not to first pick Nidalee.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:55:30
October 17 2020 13:52 GMT
#570
Well they could make it work with the same champions if Ashe and Graves built differently, but I think it's better to have some kind of AP insurance in the mid lane. I know Ori and TF were banned but Nemesis should be able to play something more threatening than Galio.

Btw I agree Velkoz wasn't a problem in the Khazix game.

Now, if Nemesis builds ad items on TF...
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:58:50
October 17 2020 13:55 GMT
#571
On October 17 2020 22:49 iCanada wrote:
Hard to build the Cleaver on Graves though vs Nidalee. You're giving up a lot of skirmish power.

I think the play for Fnatic is baiting the Karsa Nidalee and taking the real favored Eve matchup. Then your damage composition looks way nicer and the tank top can't just greed build Ninja Tabis + sunfire + frozen heart.

But I think that might be hard to draft; TES has been careful not to first pick Nidalee.


Hard to skirmish.. lol. Once you have your warrior enchant and components of a second item you're down to 5v5s at the drake. Also, Nidalee can simply avoid the fights (or vica versa) and they can just farm up and get strong anyway.

OOOOO. How spicy would a fucking TF + Noct combo be?

Oh no, the Vladimir..
Taxes are for Terrans
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 17 2020 13:59 GMT
#572
How does Vlad vs GP usually go? I think my feeling of that draft really depends on that matchup, and I honestly just an not that familiar
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 14:00:34
October 17 2020 13:59 GMT
#573
So is this AP TF, or the Nemesis trademark AD?

Looks like a lot of comfort picks from both sides. I love how Selfmade isn't afraid to bring out the Gragas. I don't really like it into Vlad though, he can dodge the cask.

GP vs Vlad is a farm lane, a good GP can bully early but it's dangerous because Vlad has the all in. At some point Vlad just runs the lane over, depends on how much farm he's managed to get.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
October 17 2020 14:05 GMT
#574
LOL
Taxes are for Terrans
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 14:07 GMT
#575
Wait isnt that a free 3 man body slam under cannon barrage?
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 14:14:07
October 17 2020 14:11 GMT
#576
Yeah Lee and Leona were super low, Selfmade should've gone in, would at least have been a 2 for 2. Think they're a bit wary because their engages threw the last 2 games.

Ffs JL dodged everything in that mid engage, why does he always play like a god after inting the start of a series.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 14:11 GMT
#577
But this one is turbo doomed
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
October 17 2020 14:13 GMT
#578
Jackeylove with the fancy feet shiiiiiiiiiiiit
Taxes are for Terrans
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
October 17 2020 14:13 GMT
#579
RIP Fnatic
You're now breathing manually
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 17 2020 14:14 GMT
#580
Karsa is Giga smurfing. He's literally hand feeding Knight.
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