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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 12:47 GMT
#541
On October 17 2020 21:39 Sent. wrote:
No more khazix pls


Yeah, really would have liked that to be a hecarim. I know the casters were talking about no Ori so no hecarim, but Rakan/hecarim is still disgusting
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 12:54:52
October 17 2020 12:47 GMT
#542
On October 17 2020 21:40 Uldridge wrote:
No one kills Sion in a 5v5 though.


I think that's fine if you can kill the Ori.

But yeah, that was a stomp.

I think the range support that game was huge. Turned Fnatics early game lane Kingdom into another winning lane. Removed the leverage into the even mid game. In three games this far, Fnatic has lost all 6 solo lanes. If they can't win bot lane they might be in trouble.

Although other factor, like you guys said, was the khazix. Not a big fan of picking a losing jungle matchup in this meta. Troll.

On October 17 2020 21:43 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2020 21:39 Sent. wrote:
No more khazix pls

I can get behind this. Also no more Vel'koz, second game so far and the hard Orianna counter is yet to materialize.


But but but the super genius Last Shadow says the matchup is unplayable for Ori.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5093 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 12:57:47
October 17 2020 12:57 GMT
#543
You'll never kill the Ori with your carries though, since Sion is so disruptive, you have him in your backline, actually killing Jhin or Vel'koz. Who's gonna get to Ori (+ball shield and resists and Seraph's shield) and 3 other players (+Karma shield and Lee protection) keep her alive?

So the only realistic way of trying to kill Ori is with Kha and Ornn or Kha and Rakan (because you need at least 1 disruptive champ in the backline to help deal with Sion), which isn't going to cut it.
Taxes are for Terrans
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 17 2020 13:02 GMT
#544
Maybe the velkoz counter pick only works on LS patented custom maps.

And yeah, hard to kill the Ori. That's fair.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:05:34
October 17 2020 13:03 GMT
#545
What? Velkoz worked perfectly fine, it was definitely Khazix and the enemy Karma pick significantly moreso than the Vel pick.

Also I think revealing Nemesis can play Sett mid here would be more important than flexing it to Hyli for the tournament long term imo. Assuming they can get out of this one that is
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 17 2020 13:10 GMT
#546
Ugh, don't like the Galio pick here. Really low magic damage for Fnatic. Would have preferred something like Zoe, Azir or Xerath.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:15:28
October 17 2020 13:14 GMT
#547
I'm getting hard flashbacks of 2018 where Bwipo(Soaz)/Caps couldnt flex the Viktor and Galio and it bit them in the ass in draft in the finals. I wouldn't have minded the Galio support or maybe even some weird AP pick like Swain support just to show that Nemesis has the ability to play Sett

Also Yuyanjia on Kench has been a KEKW for sure
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9295 Posts
October 17 2020 13:15 GMT
#548
Damn, when did Fnatic bot get so good
You're now breathing manually
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 17 2020 13:15 GMT
#549
Omg its happening. That bot lane.
Off-season = best season
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 13:16 GMT
#550
On October 17 2020 22:15 Sent. wrote:
Damn, when did Fnatic bot get so good


When did Hyli join Fnatic?
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5093 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:18:06
October 17 2020 13:16 GMT
#551
@iCanada
I don't. Having your protection Rekkles comps when he's performing and Selfmade being a jungle genius being able to pump out damage as well, but being a bit more self reliant, you can use Galio to help them keep people off Ashe.

Edit: sad overextend by FNC, it took so long for them to kill Senna!
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5093 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:21:20
October 17 2020 13:21 GMT
#552
THIS GAME IS INSANE WHAT THE FUCK

HYLI YOU MADMAN LMAO
Taxes are for Terrans
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 17 2020 13:21 GMT
#553
If there wasn't a Jayce I think Galio is fine... But when you have the Jayce on the other team, you have your mid laner down 50cs at 10 minutes.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:23:19
October 17 2020 13:23 GMT
#554
I didnt watch game 1, did Fnatic get a herald yet this series or is this the first time? I dont think they did in 2 or 3
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9295 Posts
October 17 2020 13:24 GMT
#555
wow Gailo and Senna so starved
You're now breathing manually
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5093 Posts
October 17 2020 13:25 GMT
#556
Is Black Cleaver not bette on Graves here? Help Rekkles kill the Sion better?
Taxes are for Terrans
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:31:14
October 17 2020 13:27 GMT
#557
I think Cleaver is better.

I think the ghost blade pick up is about killing Karsa and not getting locked into the shit Ornn upgrade. You can't kill Nidalee on Graves if you go Cleaver.

Also the reason why I didn't like the Galio. Means Sion is unkillable or you lose every skirmish until 4 items.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5093 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:31:10
October 17 2020 13:30 GMT
#558
That seems to make sense, yeah.


Also, I think Rekkles needs a LW before they can actually win a TF.

Like I said, Sion is unkillable.
Taxes are for Terrans
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9295 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 13:32:10
October 17 2020 13:31 GMT
#559
uh oh they really can't kill the sion

Rekkles doesn't even have last whisper, it will take forever to get a complete armor pen item
You're now breathing manually
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 17 2020 13:32 GMT
#560
Yeah Sion pick has been insane, honestly don't know why Fnatic didn't pick it up over Ornn
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