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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 02 2014 05:37 GMT
#1521
why is it butthurt if i call monte an idiot rofl? his "analysis" makes no sense cuz banning lee still means amazing doesn't have anyone to play when his 4 champs are banned out.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
June 02 2014 05:40 GMT
#1522
On June 02 2014 14:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why is it butthurt if i call monte an idiot rofl? his "analysis" makes no sense cuz banning lee still means amazing doesn't have anyone to play when his 4 champs are banned out.


Obviously he got to play one of those four when they weren't banned out rite.

I mean, shit, he got to play lee twice now under that circumstances.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 05:44:50
June 02 2014 05:44 GMT
#1523
too lazy to look it up but i would guess teams didn't know to pick lee when they get the first pick or tsm first picked it? When you can only play 4 junglers and 3 are banned out, what good does it do at all to ban out the last one when the other jungler can play junglers that are not lee? Obv then TSM should've not banned out an OP so they could've 2nd picked it which they didn't do.

Either way that tweet means he's retarded.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:02:04
June 02 2014 05:49 GMT
#1524
[image loading]

https://twitter.com/lemonsnotebook/status/469947224202297344/photo/1

people figured it out after the lemon notes.

edit: TSM banned Lucian instead of Lee. If TSM banned Lee then well actually IDK what happens then. Well, Amazing's champ pool is way too small.

how to embed twitter? plz help nublord

edit 2: actually people didn't figure it out after the lemon notes. Wk 1 curse, eg, then Wk 2 clg didn't ban out amazing. curse and eg lost. clg won and guess didn't need too
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 05:54:19
June 02 2014 05:51 GMT
#1525
right so if TSM bans lee sin with their last ban, and the other team gets w/e OP that's left, shyv or something, what does that accomplish? To ban out your own jungler? I'm watching the vod and TSM made DIG pick between shyv and lee and DIG picked lee. So holy fuck i had to go through all of that to confirm the tweet is indeed retarded. Never posting in these threads again.

And no, even if he tweeted something meaningful he shouldnt've done it
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 05:54:01
June 02 2014 05:52 GMT
#1526
On June 02 2014 14:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
too lazy to look it up but i would guess teams didn't know to pick lee when they get the first pick or tsm first picked it? When you can only play 4 junglers and 3 are banned out, what good does it do at all to ban out the last one when the other jungler can play junglers that are not lee? Obv then TSM should've not banned out an OP so they could've 2nd picked it which they didn't do.

Either way that tweet means he's retarded.

TIL making fun of your rivals makes you retarded.
On June 02 2014 14:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
right so if TSM bans lee sin with their last ban, and the other team gets w/e OP that's left, shyv or something, what does that accomplish? To ban out your own jungler? I'm watching the vod and TSM made DIG pick between shyv and lee and DIG picked lee. So holy fuck i had to go through all of that to confirm the tweet is indeed retarded. Never posting in these threads again.

Cuz crumbz meteos, and dexter are all good lee sin player in their own right.

they coulda picked nunu, and shutdown digs comp. but nope.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 02 2014 05:53 GMT
#1527
i wish there was a way to block out all posts by a single poster
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 05:56:14
June 02 2014 05:54 GMT
#1528
On June 02 2014 14:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
too lazy to look it up but i would guess teams didn't know to pick lee when they get the first pick or tsm first picked it? When you can only play 4 junglers and 3 are banned out, what good does it do at all to ban out the last one when the other jungler can play junglers that are not lee? Obv then TSM should've not banned out an OP so they could've 2nd picked it which they didn't do.

Either way that tweet means he's retarded.


... The other team first picked lee sin like 3 times, and every junglers and their mothers have the same champ pool (those 4 lols).

So leaving lee sin open means you get a good jungler and a shitty jungler instead of 2 shitty junglers.

TSM: We gon' leave lee open anyway.
Monte's tweet: Ur fkin retarded.

On June 02 2014 14:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 14:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
too lazy to look it up but i would guess teams didn't know to pick lee when they get the first pick or tsm first picked it? When you can only play 4 junglers and 3 are banned out, what good does it do at all to ban out the last one when the other jungler can play junglers that are not lee? Obv then TSM should've not banned out an OP so they could've 2nd picked it which they didn't do.

Either way that tweet means he's retarded.

TIL making fun of your rivals makes you retarded.
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 14:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
right so if TSM bans lee sin with their last ban, and the other team gets w/e OP that's left, shyv or something, what does that accomplish? To ban out your own jungler? I'm watching the vod and TSM made DIG pick between shyv and lee and DIG picked lee. So holy fuck i had to go through all of that to confirm the tweet is indeed retarded. Never posting in these threads again.

Cuz crumbz meteos, and dexter are all good lee sin player in their own right.

they coulda picked nunu, and shutdown digs comp. but nope.


Dexter's probably the best Lee sin NA.
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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
June 02 2014 05:57 GMT
#1529
What are the other shitty junglers are comparatively less shitty compared to let's say Volibear? Any ranking? I'm thinking Vi, Wukong maybe.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:02:37
June 02 2014 06:00 GMT
#1530
i know because people havent played xin/wu/vi/kayle as much that redditors think those are worse picks but believe it or not it actually doesn't matter if the other team has a lee and you have a xin, it only matters when you can't play it. It does matter when the other team has a shyvanna and you don't. So no, banning out your own jungler does not make sense. TSM fucked up by not leaving every OP open, otherwise they did the best they could in forcing dig to pick between shyv and lee.

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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
June 02 2014 06:07 GMT
#1531
On June 02 2014 15:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i know because people havent played xin/wu/vi/kayle as much that redditors think those are worse picks but believe it or not it actually doesn't matter if the other team has a lee and you have a xin, it only matters when you can't play it. It does matter when the other team has a shyvanna and you don't.


I heard those other junglers are pretty good at lee sin doe.

And shy really mattered in that dig game too. Or that CLG game where shy wasn't banned either.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:36:04
June 02 2014 06:11 GMT
#1532
let's say kha/eve/elise are banned, jungler A aka Diginitas Crumbzz can play xin and lee, jungler B aka TSM Amazing can only play lee.

If team Solomid bans lee, jungler A aka Dignitas Crumbzz can still play xin, jungler B aka TSM Amazing will have to play a champion he doesn't know
If team Solomid does not ban lee, jungler A aka Dignitas Crumbzz picks lee, jungler B aka TSM Amazing will have to play a champion he doesn't know

This is assuming team Solomid bans lee instead of shyvana, which they would pick if team Diginitas picks lee.

In which of these scenarios does banning lee make sense?

Shyv is ilke 27-3 both region's splits combined so far this season. Are you monte?
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
June 02 2014 06:21 GMT
#1533
Wait, where is this assumption that Amazing can play Xin Zhao coming from. He played one Xin game this entire year... and he lost to Meteos' Lee Sin.

What the fuck are these scenarios that you are talking about lmao.
Fan of the Jangbanger
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:33:22
June 02 2014 06:30 GMT
#1534
im saying crumbz can play junglers outside of lee, like xin. So banning or not banning lee would have both forced amazing to play a jungler he doesn't know, and crumbz would play a jungler he can play. In the scenarios, team B is tsm, team A is DIG. Sorry I should've spelled it out because you're obviously not very bright. Sorry I wasted two pages arguing when you couldn't comprehend a hypothetical example. I looked up the shyvanna record, it's 13-3 in NA LCS thus far.

edit: I edited the post so you can comprehend
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:32:48
June 02 2014 06:32 GMT
#1535
On June 02 2014 15:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
let's say kha/eve/elise are banned, jungler A can play xin and lee, jungler B can only play lee.

If team B bans lee, jungler A can still play xin, jungler B will have to play a champion he doesn't know
If team B does not ban lee, jungler A picks lee, jungler B will have to play a champion he doesn't know

This is assuming team B bans lee instead of shyvanna, which they would pick if team A picks lee.

In which of these scenarios does banning lee make sense?

Shyv is ilke 27-3 both region's splits combined so far this season. Are you monte?

Except Jungler A in all 3 cases(dig/clg/c9) are all REALLY fucking good Lee Sin players as well.
On June 02 2014 15:30 zulu_nation8 wrote:
im saying crumbz can play junglers outside of lee, like xin. So banning or not banning lee would have both forced amazing to play a jungler he doesn't know, and crumbz would play a jungler he can play. In the scenarios, team B is tsm, team A is DIG. Sorry I should've spelled it out because you're obviously not very bright. Sorry I wasted two pages arguing when you couldn't comprehend a hypothetical example. I looked up the shyvanna record, it's 13-3 in NA LCS thus far.

Crumbz lee sin is like easily a step or two above whatever shit would be left over after 4 jungler bans.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 02 2014 06:34 GMT
#1536
sry im not getting baited by more retard
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:41:21
June 02 2014 06:40 GMT
#1537
On June 02 2014 15:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sry im not getting baited by more retard

Just look at all the pick bans.
LMQ's nunu. (picked after lee sin/k6 was picked for jungle/mid, and elise banned)
TSM's Volibear/Xin (picked after the 3 bans and lee sin pick)

It's pretty obvious, people are putting Lee as part of the top 4 jungler picks, and picks after the top 4 aren't nearly as strong.
banning lee would have been the correct move by TSM, as to shorten up the jungler disparity.

But yes, keep calling people retards. make your argument that much stronger.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:47:50
June 02 2014 06:46 GMT
#1538
in my humble opinion I do not think playing a jungler that is not in the top 4 vs. lee sin matters as much as picking shyvana. In other words I do not think Lee Sin the Blind Monk is more OP than Shyvana the Half-Dragon. I didn't call you a retard, I called what you said, retard. You could be a very intelligent and insightful human being despite what you said (I doubt it).
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 06:52:06
June 02 2014 06:47 GMT
#1539
On June 02 2014 15:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
let's say kha/eve/elise are banned, jungler A aka Diginitas Crumbzz can play xin and lee, jungler B aka TSM Amazing can only play lee.

If team Solomid bans lee, jungler A aka Dignitas Crumbzz can still play xin, jungler B aka TSM Amazing will have to play a champion he doesn't know
If team Dignitas does not ban lee, jungler A aka Dignitas Crumbzz picks lee, jungler B aka TSM Amazing will have to play a champion he doesn't know

This is assuming team Dignitas bans lee instead of shyvana, which they would pick if team Solomid picks lee.

In which of these scenarios does banning lee make sense?

Shyv is ilke 27-3 both region's splits combined so far this season. Are you monte?


....so with this edited post, where is the assumption that crumbz can play xin is coming from? Haven't touched xin once last split either, out of the 8 junglers he played.

It's like, every jungler plays those 4 and pretty much only those 4. I don't even know why you are assuming that these other junglers had some secret tech outside those 4 that make them such bullies over amazing when he had to pick something other than kha/elise/lee/eve. They're all equally shitty lol, which make banning lee sin even more tempting since without jungle pressure there are no one that can cleanly beat dyrus top and bjerg mid. Bot's rather iffy but they're still nowhere near Wiz/Daydream.

Dyrus with shyv is just like any other dyrus: either his jungler get him rolling or the other jungler shits on him. These three games aren't against noobs, if TSM can't make them respect the pick no one is gonna give a shit about it no matter how big the pubstomp record on shy is. Obviously they can't since all three teams let dyrus have any picks he wants.
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
June 02 2014 06:47 GMT
#1540
Definitely banning Lee Sin would have been the better choice for TSM.

The bans were obviously targeted towards Amazing to make him uncomfortable as possible, so removing all the great junglers from the pool makes both teams have stupid subpar junglers.

If they ban Lee Sin and dig took Shyvana first, there's still jax open. It's much better match than giving them a great jungler while your team is stuck with a useless jungler.
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