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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 16 2014 04:45 GMT
#3841
I think frost is pretty overrated. Anyone should look good up against the teams Frost has beaten recently. Really, the problem right now isn't having a good mid laner and jungle, it's been past that for quite a while now.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 16 2014 04:51 GMT
#3842
Even the Riot-approved power rankings as KTB as the 7th best Korean team as of 2 days ago
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 16 2014 04:58 GMT
#3843
Wow Fnatic beat C9. I missed this whole tournament because i discovered my passion for CS:GO and watched that instead XD. P.S Watch LGB vs Fnatic if ur into it.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 07:15:33
March 16 2014 07:11 GMT
#3844
On March 16 2014 12:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:44 oneofthem wrote:
china honestly not looking too hot. but then again we and ig are getting shit on in LPL.

Also remember that LPL is, as always, 1-2 patches behind. They didn't even have 3.15 till last week (week 1/2 LPL have the old summoner spell icons), Yasuo wasn't enabled till this week, and IIRC they still don't have 4.1.

But Tencent being bad at patching the Chinese tournament servers on time has been a known issue forever. It just means that for any international event not called Worlds, Chinese understanding of the game is inevitably going to be 1-2 patches behind.

Well yeah, it really looked like iG and WE were playing the games with their game knowledge based on outdated patches/metas. I mean, it's known that that is the case, but it was really obvious for anyone who knew to watch out for it. At Worlds, OMG adapted quite well to the patch change, while Royal relied on a strong showing against OMG and facing a non-Korean team in the semis to get through (IMO). But WE has always been quite slow at identifying modern strategies, and it's even worse now without Misaya's captaincy to steel them through tough games. iG has always been quite good at adapting, but 1 week really isn't enough.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for the Chinese teams and just recognise that their game theory is just too insular and undeveloped for them to compete internationally at the moment. Tencent needs to patch properly and China needs to evaluate different regions and metas before they can return back to the top.

Edit: I really thought C9 would get through Fnatic, but it seems that they aren't used to closing games against top tier opposition. They are very good at snowballing a lead against mediocre opposition, but they looked quite lost in G1 and G2 against Fnatic's world class defence. Shame too, I really wanted to see C9 vs KTB, since neither team is mechanically top tier but their macro strategies are at the forefront of the recent metas.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 07:59:28
March 16 2014 07:19 GMT
#3845
they need to get some analyst/coaching i think. i raised the patch issue earlier but beyond the picks ig were not really making decisions to enlarge their advantage. they don't like to split push but take fights without a clear purpose.

from what i've read it seems that omg has the best coaching/analyst in china and they learn the most from scrimming against korean teams.

didn't watch the WE game but apparently they got crushed in 20 minutes
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 16 2014 08:23 GMT
#3846
You have to put some blame onto WE/iG though. Their bans were god awful. Doesn't matter what patch it was on, their scouting was horrendous.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 16 2014 13:37 GMT
#3847
Is it bo5 or bo3 tonight?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21858 Posts
March 16 2014 13:44 GMT
#3848
On March 16 2014 22:37 Omnishroud wrote:
Is it bo5 or bo3 tonight?

Bo3 since a Bo5 would last past the venue closing time.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 16 2014 13:47 GMT
#3849
Source? I'm pretty sure I heard bo5
I got five reasons for you to shut up
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
March 16 2014 13:48 GMT
#3850
It's bo5.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21858 Posts
March 16 2014 13:50 GMT
#3851
well guess there praying it wont go to game 5 then because that will be around 23:00 which is well after the venue closing time.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 13:57:56
March 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#3852
On March 16 2014 22:50 Gorsameth wrote:
well guess there praying it wont go to game 5 then because that will be around 23:00 which is well after the venue closing time.


Where are you getting the "venue closing time" from? the website? Venues are well known for going late / opening early for big events, they just charge a premium.

Shit i think every wedding reception ever did this lol.
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
March 16 2014 14:14 GMT
#3853
Cloud 9's 2nd game at friday was played without an audience because the crowd had to leave at 22:30 and they were three hours behind the schedule.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 14:17:24
March 16 2014 14:17 GMT
#3854
Wrong thread!
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21858 Posts
March 16 2014 14:25 GMT
#3855
On March 16 2014 22:57 Omnishroud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 22:50 Gorsameth wrote:
well guess there praying it wont go to game 5 then because that will be around 23:00 which is well after the venue closing time.


Where are you getting the "venue closing time" from? the website? Venues are well known for going late / opening early for big events, they just charge a premium.

Shit i think every wedding reception ever did this lol.

as Don_julio said. They had to clear our the audience for the last game on friday. If this gos to game 5 they would have the same problem. Going to be an awesome winners ceremony in front of 10 production staff tho.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 16 2014 14:27 GMT
#3856
Maybe we'll get lucky and sOs wins with blink all in 4 times in a row
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 16 2014 14:30 GMT
#3857
On March 16 2014 23:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 22:57 Omnishroud wrote:
On March 16 2014 22:50 Gorsameth wrote:
well guess there praying it wont go to game 5 then because that will be around 23:00 which is well after the venue closing time.


Where are you getting the "venue closing time" from? the website? Venues are well known for going late / opening early for big events, they just charge a premium.

Shit i think every wedding reception ever did this lol.

as Don_julio said. They had to clear our the audience for the last game on friday. If this gos to game 5 they would have the same problem. Going to be an awesome winners ceremony in front of 10 production staff tho.


Well that explains it a little more, could be different circumstances for tonight. They were behind schedule that night (by alot apparently) and this is planned in advance.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
March 16 2014 14:33 GMT
#3858
KTB looked mortal vs a Gambit who did many mistakes and 2nd Fnatic day seemed to have found their rythm, dispatching C9 quite convicingly.
But even if Fnatic>Gambit in this tour, i would still put KTB as favorites, something around 60-40 for the BO5. Game 1 will tell us a lot of what will follow.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 14:42:43
March 16 2014 14:39 GMT
#3859
I dont understand why gambit doesnt fucking ban insec out with elise/kha/panth and firstpick lee if he pick vi u can even counter with morgana.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 16 2014 14:42 GMT
#3860
oh shieeet bo5 really? awesome. Pls no 3:0 stomperino for KTB pls.
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