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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:41 cuppatea wrote: So can we infer from this tournament (and previous ones) that Korea >>>>> China > EU > NA? Can't infer anything from this tournament because you have the top team from NA, ??? from EU, top 4 team KR, and then ??? from CN. So I guess maybe that KR is top of the world. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:07 xes wrote: Can't infer anything from this tournament because you have the top team from NA, ??? from EU, top 4 team KR, and then ??? from CN. So I guess maybe that KR is top of the world. Technically C9 is top 2, maybe even top 3 with the leaps and bounds CLG has improved. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
I still consider Fnatic and Gambit top 2 in EU as well. SK is up and coming for sure, just need to see more consistency from them. KT B isn't top 4 KR. Neither is WE or iG for CN. So if anything, LCS regions more or less sent their best. Asian regions sent B teams. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
KTB isn't top 4 in Korea at the moment. Their play in Masters was terrible and they haven't had a game at Champions, yet. Gambit put up a really good fight though. The disparity is smaller than expected. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:13 NeoIllusions wrote: Uh, I wouldn't go that far just yet. I think C9 is securely top 2 in NA. I still consider Fnatic and Gambit top 2 in EU as well. SK is up and coming for sure, just need to see more consistency from them. KT B isn't top 4 KR. Neither is WE or iG for CN. So if anything, LCS regions more or less sent their best. Asian regions sent B teams. I'm just honestly surprised CLG has been doing...non-CLG strategies into the mid/late game, and they're putting together a strong record recently. As of now, I don't think XDG or Crs will be able to put things together by the end of the split (maybe by Summer). While Dig is improving, I feel they are improving relatively slower than other NA LCS teams (notably CLG). Forsee a mid-ranking from them, maybe a "safe" relegations slot" Outside of that,, more or less agree with everything. Would've liked to see TSM instead of Millenium and see if they continue their lopsided loss-record against KR, or SK. I think the one thing we can take away from this currently is that the gap between Asian and Western teams isn't insurmountable. I look forward to excellent games panning out for All-stars. Also for a burgeoning C9 vs Fnatic rivalry. dat S3 Worlds repeat set doe | ||
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skykh
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:43 skykh wrote: Ktb isnt even top 8 they are c-tier korean teams... Please name 8 teams better than KTB. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On March 16 2014 07:53 Lord Tolkien wrote: shush you let me indulge in the fantasy that SKT T1 wont completely curbstomp western teams and we will have halfway decent games. A lot will happen till worlds. E.g. NaJin White Shield will be Korea's #1. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Not that I have 8 teams to put ahead of KT B but Yango told me that Milo has both IM teams ahead of KT B atm. lawlz | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
SKTK, KTA, the CJs, the Najins, Ozone... That's 7 with me being nice. | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:10 Gahlo wrote: SKTK, KTA, the CJs, the Najins, Ozone... That's 7 with me being nice. did you just list CJ Frost and not T1S? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
Did you see the part where I said I was being nice? I mean, this is my favorite team we're talking about here. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
a lot of korean teams are players with little experience put together and trained under a more or less strict meta. outside of this training wheel meta can they adapt to the crap that glorified amateur teams from the west can throw up? eventually yea, when their coaches research everything thoroughly but when they don't you can still get stuff like worlds ozone. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
1 Korean team, 1 North American, 3 (?) Chinese, 3 EU. Plus Double Elimination format with Bo1 which favors weaker teams. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22471 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I don't get that distribution at all... 1 Korean team, 1 North American, 3 (?) Chinese, 3 EU. Plus Double Elimination format with Bo1 which favors weaker teams. How does it favor weaker teams Oo The best 2 go through Only system that is more fair is a full round robin which would be 2 more games per group which they don't have time for. | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:13 Gahlo wrote: Did you see the part where I said I was being nice? I mean, this is my favorite team we're talking about here. no no it's understandable you are a KT fan, so I see the thought process T1S plays like soloQ half the time, takes like 60 minutes to close out each game, Marin feeds worse than Worlds Dade and that one win against T1K was T1K picking a shitty team comp and going down to their soloQ level - and getting beat out by experience so fuck T1S, they suck it's cool | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote: I don't get that distribution at all... 1 Korean team, 1 North American, 3 (?) Chinese, 3 EU. Plus Double Elimination format with Bo1 which favors weaker teams. This IEM was invitation only. KR has the most strenuous schedule right now. Teams have to prepare for Champions and Masters, so it's actually a surprise that KT B managed to fit it into their schedule. More LPL/GPL teams accepted the invite than NA teams is what you have to presume. Personally, I think after C9's Worlds performance, they're probably the hungriest NA team for international competition. Although not sure why big name teams like CLG, TSM, dig would pass on this opportunity, assuming they got an invite. Fielding a lot of EU teams for an EU event shouldn't be a surprise. Overall, it makes sense, given the situation. Also, the format is fine imo. Edit: @scrubtastic: closing games out in 60 min > not being able to close out games. l0l | ||
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