EPT[OGN] Hot6ix Champions Spring 2014 - Page 57
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On April 06 2014 11:53 astray71 wrote: Forgot about the SKT S vs Prime match. Everyone was saying that S was undoubtedly going to playoffs because they only needed 1 win against Prime. So, my question is the same as everyone elses: Did S throw? Anyone watch the games and see any unusual play from S? Or did they just get outplayed? well if you read the past like 20 pages you will know how TL feels about the situation | ||
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baekgom84
Korea (South)375 Posts
Still, thanks to SKT's match-fixing shenanigans (I kid, I kid) at least there's a chance we will avoid Faker and co. and be crowned glorious kings of the NLB once again! Also it just occurred to me that I have absolutely no idea what NLB stands for. Anyone know? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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V0ren
Netherlands233 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On April 06 2014 04:33 Gahlo wrote: Anybody know when tiebreakers/bracket draw is? On April 06 2014 04:55 AlterKot wrote: Wednesday same time as usual. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 06 2014 11:53 astray71 wrote: Forgot about the SKT S vs Prime match. Everyone was saying that S was undoubtedly going to playoffs because they only needed 1 win against Prime. So, my question is the same as everyone elses: Did S throw? Anyone watch the games and see any unusual play from S? Or did they just get outplayed? Prime just played games of their lives, after their roll of KT A in OGN qualifiers, rolled S. Unusual play from S? Every game when Easyhoon doesn't play Ziggs and Marin doesn't play Renekton is unusual. Prime just was way better. I'm curious what could happen if they were in a different group and not in that. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
On April 06 2014 22:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Prime just played games of their lives, after their roll of KT A in OGN qualifiers, rolled S. Unusual play from S? Every game when Easyhoon doesn't play Ziggs and Marin doesn't play Renekton is unusual. Prime just was way better. I'm curious what could happen if they were in a different group and not in that. Finally an intelligent post. Prime banned against S very well as mentioned. Prime came in with a legit strategy and game plan, executed well (despite all the missed skill shots/ults lol), and had a better grasp on what they were doing as a team. Prime played amazingly to win this set, and if they weren't in a group of death (KTA/ SKT T1 K and S), I think they might have had a legit chance to advance. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21247 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 07 2014 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I wonder if SKT K scrimmed against Prime to help them prepare hue. Are they gonna team them to ban Renekton and Ziggs? | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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baekgom84
Korea (South)375 Posts
As long as the sister team structure exists and situations arise where a team losing would ultimately be beneficial for their parent organisation, these suspicions are going to continue. | ||
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MCMilo
United States365 Posts
Imagine the upside for SKT if Team S advances to the quarterfinals. They get validation as not just a "secondary" team to Team K and they get the chance to show what they're made of on the big stage and gives their newer players experience going against better teams. It also gives Team S's players a lot more confidence and when their newer players get more confident they start to play more consistently and really solidify their identity as a group of players playing the game the way they want to play. | ||
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baekgom84
Korea (South)375 Posts
On April 07 2014 21:34 MCMilo wrote: Even being accused of "taking it easy" is incredibly stressful to the players. When 5 hardworking players simply try their best and then look at forums seeing netizens post about "donating K their spot", or "matchfixing" it's very demoralizing to the players and I don't think SKT as an organization is actually retarded enough to THROW away their talent in Team S just to give Team K a second chance in OGN. Imagine the upside for SKT if Team S advances to the quarterfinals. They get validation as not just a "secondary" team to Team K and they get the chance to show what they're made of on the big stage and gives their newer players experience going against better teams. It also gives Team S's players a lot more confidence and when their newer players get more confident they start to play more consistently and really solidify their identity as a group of players playing the game the way they want to play. I don't disagree with the points you made, but I do think that the benefits of having a proven (and marketable) team like K in the playoffs is much greater than giving an inconsistent team like S more of a chance to prove themselves. SKT would be relatively confident that K have the chops to take the title yet again; that means collecting the prize money (not insignificant) as well as further boosting K's enormous profiles both in Korea and abroad. Faker is quickly becoming one of the most recognisable players in e-sports history, in an era where e-sports is really starting to flex its muscles globally - if K manage to win Champions again for an unprecedented third time, they will cement a legacy that will be remembered for years to come. All I'm saying is that while it's completely unfair to accuse SKT of deliberately throwing a match, it's also naive to think that it wouldn't be worth their while to attempt it, and it is therefore valid to be suspicious of such a highly unexpected result in these circumstances. Teams have thrown games before and I guarantee you it will happen again. It will all be a moot point if S win the tiebreaker though. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21247 Posts
On April 07 2014 06:23 onlywonderboy wrote: Are they gonna team them to ban Renekton and Ziggs? Easyhoon walks by Faker's desk on his way to grab a drink. "Hey Faker-senpai what are you doing?" "Uh...nothing...just chatting with some folks." "Who?" "Oh. Um. Well...IDK if you know him. Some guy named Ninja." "Ninja...from Optimus?" "Uh...yes." "What are you guys talking about?" "Nothing. Stuff. Why are you asking so many questions??" Faker-senpai pls ;; | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On April 07 2014 21:34 MCMilo wrote: Even being accused of "taking it easy" is incredibly stressful to the players. When 5 hardworking players simply try their best and then look at forums seeing netizens post about "donating K their spot", or "matchfixing" it's very demoralizing to the players and I don't think SKT as an organization is actually retarded enough to THROW away their talent in Team S just to give Team K a second chance in OGN. Imagine the upside for SKT if Team S advances to the quarterfinals. They get validation as not just a "secondary" team to Team K and they get the chance to show what they're made of on the big stage and gives their newer players experience going against better teams. It also gives Team S's players a lot more confidence and when their newer players get more confident they start to play more consistently and really solidify their identity as a group of players playing the game the way they want to play. you guys talking about skt's motivations for throwing from a results and upsides perspective don't get it. if K threw their second game against S to increase the chances of both teams making out of the group, they were basically locked in to a "return the favor" throw should the situation occur where S's result against prime in the last match determined K's fate. the guilt from S and the blame/resentment from K would pretty much destroy the organization if K got knocked out of the tournament in large part due to letting S win a game. | ||
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j1nzo
Germany367 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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