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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 06:07:34
October 04 2013 06:06 GMT
#401
On October 04 2013 15:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 14:59 UmberBane wrote:
On October 04 2013 14:56 Letmelose wrote:
On October 04 2013 14:35 UmberBane wrote:
On October 04 2013 13:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 04 2013 10:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Here is my preview for Quantic Gaming.

Considering my predictions have been terrible I probably just clinched the series for Royal Club


This will be one of the biggest, if not the biggest events in e-Sports history with a huge streaming audience expected along with an 11,000 person strong audience at the Staples Centre in Los Angeles.


Even this is small if you compare it to the golden years of BW...


I often wondered about that. Do we have any official viewer numbers from PL/OSL finals from like 06/07/08? I never saw specifics unfortunately, only anecdotal stuff.

Or were you guys simply talking about live attendees? I mean then it's clear, but you have to realize that old BW events were always free to attend, while Riot completely sold out Staples for 50-100$ tickets in one hour. You have to do a bit more of theorycrafting here in my opinion to truly get an idea, instead of just comparing the crowd numbers at face value. If Staples had more space I'm sure a lot more people would attend.

All in all I hope the rumours are true that S4 Worlds will be held in Seoul, it would truly be the best thing ever ever ever ever.


2004: 100,000
2005: 120,000
2006: 48,000
2007: 70,000
2008: 30,000
2009: 70,000


There seems to be a misunderstanding. I was asking about viewer numbers So TV ratings + Chinese number or whatever else may have been a relevant number back in the day. I would have guessed it to be at least 2-3 Million or something, but I have 0 actual numbers whatsoever for that, unfortunately.



That's what I was trying to give you albeit I gave you approximates for national television. I know TeamLiquid has published those statistics a few times for the Finals as well.


Oh I didn't even see your comment, whoops. Yeah, seems hard to estimate.
Montecristo on LO3 said that 3 Million peak concurrent for the Finals would be a "very safe bet", so it could be possible to rival whatever numbers they had back then, albeit with the whole global audience in this case, so there's still immense room.

One thing I often tend to dislike is how people nowadays tend to talk about these events (Worlds, TI) as like the biggest thing ever to happen in esports, as if BW never existed. But whatever, I suppose it's mainly due to enthusiasm and I can't blame anyone for that.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 06:31:55
October 04 2013 06:11 GMT
#402
It's just because it happened in Korea and most people aren't familiar with those times. Sure, a few of them might have tried BW but they never really got into the game or knew about the scene. Unless you knew about communities like this then you really had no idea what was happening. Sure there were other websites like gosugamers, wgtour, pgtour but TL was pretty much your go-to page for information on the Korean scene if you were living outside of Korea.

Okay, after getting more accustomed to the search (I never had to use the drop down window to find certain stuff).. I did manage to get some interesting tidbits:

Mind you this is just some figures for the Ever 2009 OSL Final between Flash and Movie.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
October 04 2013 06:46 GMT
#403
On October 04 2013 14:59 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 14:56 Letmelose wrote:
On October 04 2013 14:35 UmberBane wrote:
On October 04 2013 13:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 04 2013 10:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Here is my preview for Quantic Gaming.

Considering my predictions have been terrible I probably just clinched the series for Royal Club


This will be one of the biggest, if not the biggest events in e-Sports history with a huge streaming audience expected along with an 11,000 person strong audience at the Staples Centre in Los Angeles.


Even this is small if you compare it to the golden years of BW...


I often wondered about that. Do we have any official viewer numbers from PL/OSL finals from like 06/07/08? I never saw specifics unfortunately, only anecdotal stuff.

Or were you guys simply talking about live attendees? I mean then it's clear, but you have to realize that old BW events were always free to attend, while Riot completely sold out Staples for 50-100$ tickets in one hour. You have to do a bit more of theorycrafting here in my opinion to truly get an idea, instead of just comparing the crowd numbers at face value. If Staples had more space I'm sure a lot more people would attend.

All in all I hope the rumours are true that S4 Worlds will be held in Seoul, it would truly be the best thing ever ever ever ever.


2004: 100,000
2005: 120,000
2006: 48,000
2007: 70,000
2008: 30,000
2009: 70,000


There seems to be a misunderstanding. I was asking about viewer numbers So TV ratings + Chinese number or whatever else may have been a relevant number back in the day. I would have guessed it to be at least 2-3 Million or something, but I have 0 actual numbers whatsoever for that, unfortunately.

That the old BW events had way more live attendees doesn't need to be mentioned, since it should be obvious to anyone.


The only official numbers I can find are for the Grand Finals of the 2008~2009 Shinhan ProLeague, which had around 2,934,370 viewers watching it. So your estimation of 2~3 million viewers for a random ProLeague Grand Finals would be more or less correct. However, considering the viewership for that particular finals doesn't even cut it into the top twenty most viewed event in history, the legendary numbers from competitions such as the So1 StarLeague would most likely be quite higher than that.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
October 04 2013 07:42 GMT
#404
[image loading]

so good
Commentator
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 04 2013 07:52 GMT
#405
I saw that on Hai's stream lmao.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 04 2013 09:35 GMT
#406
I think the biggest draw in Korea would end up being SKT vs CJ Blaze. KT B is a major name, but doesn't have the same following as the CJ teams in Korea.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 04 2013 09:36 GMT
#407
SKT versus whatever team Madlife is on*
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 04 2013 11:56 GMT
#408
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 04 2013 12:14 GMT
#409
On October 04 2013 20:56 LaNague wrote:
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.

It will probably actually start at more like 6am, which isn't that bad really.

I'm going to wake up at 5am or so (UK time) and be able to watch most of it.
Someone has to suffer, this time round it's Europe, but even then not too badly.
Plus the Korean GP qualifying is on from 6am UK time that I was going to watch anyway. You just have to put in some dedication and remember the actual games won't start straight away because they will do lots of intro stuff, and then 10 minutes for picks and bans/etc after that.
HOLY CHECK!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 04 2013 12:16 GMT
#410
On October 04 2013 20:56 LaNague wrote:
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.


Come on, I have to get up at 5 in the morning too, but you have to realize that it's standard west coast prime time for sporting events. That's just how the world works... Also they'd be dumb to screw over all of Asia, with 2 Asian teams in the finals and all.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 04 2013 12:40 GMT
#411
You guys probably have around 30-40 minutes before the actual games begin.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22658 Posts
October 04 2013 12:47 GMT
#412
Its even better with the Youtube stream. you can start watching around 6 am and incase you missed part of game 1 you can still go back and watch it and use the break between game 1-2 to catch back up.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 04 2013 12:58 GMT
#413
On October 04 2013 21:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Its even better with the Youtube stream. you can start watching around 6 am and incase you missed part of game 1 you can still go back and watch it and use the break between game 1-2 to catch back up.


Not only that, but the youtube stream always seems to behind the rest as well. ;3
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 04 2013 13:02 GMT
#414
On October 04 2013 21:40 StarStruck wrote:
You guys probably have around 30-40 minutes before the actual games begin.

yeah that sucks
I will get my pizza at 12:00 but it will be finished before the matches start.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 04 2013 13:04 GMT
#415
On October 04 2013 16:42 GTR wrote:
<pic>

so good

That cap does it all.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#416
On October 04 2013 20:56 LaNague wrote:
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.


Dude, gotta wake up! Show that dedication to the game.

I used to wake up at like, 4:30 for OSL BW matches... the days *reminisces*.
darkness overpowering
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 04 2013 13:37 GMT
#417
Royal wins Game 1 and 4.
SKT takes 2, 3 and 5.
cool beans
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 04 2013 13:40 GMT
#418
On October 04 2013 22:14 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 20:56 LaNague wrote:
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.


Dude, gotta wake up! Show that dedication to the game.

I used to wake up at like, 4:30 for OSL BW matches... the days *reminisces*.


I'm just going to stay up all day and night until the finals. I've done it before for other games(SC2) and I don't see a reason not to do it here.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
October 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#419
There are 8 hours between California to England to Korea. There is literally no way they could satisfy everyone and they picked NA + Asia.

If you wanted to be prioritized, should've won All Stars
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
October 04 2013 16:09 GMT
#420
On October 04 2013 21:14 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 20:56 LaNague wrote:
i wont be able to watch this, i hope riot chokes on their stupid staple center 5 am Eu time finals.

It will probably actually start at more like 6am, which isn't that bad really.

I'm going to wake up at 5am or so (UK time) and be able to watch most of it.
Someone has to suffer, this time round it's Europe, but even then not too badly.
Plus the Korean GP qualifying is on from 6am UK time that I was going to watch anyway. You just have to put in some dedication and remember the actual games won't start straight away because they will do lots of intro stuff, and then 10 minutes for picks and bans/etc after that.


Also if you skip the first couple of games and, if we are lucky, it goes to 5 games then you can just tune in around 7am and watch most of it anyway.
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