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Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
October 03 2013 13:14 GMT
#361
Leaguepedia countdown and the time on the world finals page differ, the timer says it starts in 22h 47m and the page says it starts 5 in the morning CET. Damn EU as always screwed by Riot if it's 05:00 CET
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
October 03 2013 13:16 GMT
#362
On October 03 2013 14:14 SagaZ wrote:
Tabe appeared on live of 3 episode today and talked pretty in depth about problems of being a progamer in china. Mainly the biggest point was that players can't own "stores" where they would sell merchandise related to themselfs (shirts, ect..). But that the rest of people involved in esports can, and some people, like coachs and commentator make immense amounts of money from those.


i think the reason why players are not allowed is because u don't have time to practice if u waste most of ur time on business. actually, the teams or organizations cannot benefit much from running stores; however, commentators in China profit a lot from the stores.(30-40 times to the player according to Tabe)
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 03 2013 13:17 GMT
#363
It is 5:00 in the morning, yes... Leaguepedia often has screwed up countdowns.

It sucks but it's just west coast prime time if I understood it right. Any European fan of US basketball or whatever will have the same problem I guess. At least it's quite a decent time for Asia (saturday noon).

Ah well, I'm going to get up early instead of staying up late.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 03 2013 13:48 GMT
#364
On October 03 2013 17:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 14:42 stuchiu wrote:
On October 03 2013 13:49 TheYango wrote:
In general, salaries in Chinese E-sports are really really low.

Even Burning (DK's star DotA player) has said that he'd make more money making videos/running a Taobao store, and it's hard to think of any player in Chinese E-sports with more recognition than him at the moment.


Sky?

I don't know what WE's current deal with Sky is. I neglected to mention him because I don't know whether he counts as "in Chinese E-sports at the moment".


Sky is definitely on the other side of the coin, making most of his income from his book and online stores

Functionally, think of the caster/progamer stores as just online ebay storefronts that appeal to gamers. They generally focus on 3 things: 1. Gaming Gear (keyboards mice headphones etc), 2. Gaming Apparel, and 3. Snacks

Generally the ex-progamers and casters are quite intelligent and business-savvy and are able to achieve success using their exposure in esports. Think of it as the equivalent of something like Tastetosis's Handsome Nerd stuff on a larger scale and more aggressively priced/advertised.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 14:57:34
October 03 2013 14:57 GMT
#365
Chinese ESPORTS is much more cutthroat than in NA, so the people whom you see at the top with the most visibility are usually very good at the business side of things.

Or rather, cutthroat might not be a bit aggressive of a word, but certainly competitive.
Awooo...
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
October 03 2013 16:15 GMT
#366
OH sht. I'm lucky I looked at this page now, otherwise I would've stayed up this night till 5 to watch worlds and then it wouldn't happen. Leaguepedia almost screwed me over xD.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 16:27:16
October 03 2013 16:26 GMT
#367
On October 03 2013 23:57 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Chinese ESPORTS is much more cutthroat than in NA, so the people whom you see at the top with the most visibility are usually very good at the business side of things.

Or rather, cutthroat might not be a bit aggressive of a word, but certainly competitive.


In other words, China is really haha business.

Also I just noticed that csheep is close to 10k posts.

inb4 he wastes it saying his usual "na blows eu blows, china is great learn to rice."
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 03 2013 16:39 GMT
#368
On October 04 2013 01:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 23:57 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Chinese ESPORTS is much more cutthroat than in NA, so the people whom you see at the top with the most visibility are usually very good at the business side of things.

Or rather, cutthroat might not be a bit aggressive of a word, but certainly competitive.


In other words, China is really haha business.

Also I just noticed that csheep is close to 10k posts.

inb4 he wastes it saying his usual "na blows eu blows, china is great learn to rice."


It's possible he's taken a pseudonym to avoid that very issue...
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 18:34 GMT
#369
So I'm planning on watching the Finals with friends on Saturday afternoon instead. Does anyone know how I can catch the games, after they're played, without getting spoiled to the results?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#370
On October 03 2013 22:16 niukasu1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 14:14 SagaZ wrote:
Tabe appeared on live of 3 episode today and talked pretty in depth about problems of being a progamer in china. Mainly the biggest point was that players can't own "stores" where they would sell merchandise related to themselfs (shirts, ect..). But that the rest of people involved in esports can, and some people, like coachs and commentator make immense amounts of money from those.


i think the reason why players are not allowed is because u don't have time to practice if u waste most of ur time on business. actually, the teams or organizations cannot benefit much from running stores; however, commentators in China profit a lot from the stores.(30-40 times to the player according to Tabe)

lol if you believe the rules are for the benefit of the teams.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 18:37:50
October 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#371
On October 04 2013 03:34 KissBlade wrote:
So I'm planning on watching the Finals with friends on Saturday afternoon instead. Does anyone know how I can catch the games, after they're played, without getting spoiled to the results?



www.reddit.com/r/loleventvods is what I always use for spoiler free vods. (I don't trust lolesports.com with the spoilers)
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 03 2013 18:37 GMT
#372
I still don't understand who actually forbids guys like Tabe to have one of those stores?
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 18:38:31
October 03 2013 18:38 GMT
#373
On October 04 2013 03:37 AsnSensation wrote:
I still don't understand who actually forbids guys like Tabe to have one of those stores?


As far as I understand ACE does that. The equivalent of KeSPA in China, just even messier than its Korean counterpart.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 18:41:34
October 03 2013 18:41 GMT
#374
On October 04 2013 03:38 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 03:37 AsnSensation wrote:
I still don't understand who actually forbids guys like Tabe to have one of those stores?


As far as I understand ACE does that. The equivalent of KeSPA in China, just even messier than its Korean counterpart.

ACE is really bizarre, they're terrified at disparities of skill occurring (They banned tongfu/iG/DK/LGD aka the big 4 of China pre TI3 from playing in most tournaments thinking they'd just ez pz all over it and dis encourage people smaller than them). It seems like they have good intentions but idk if they're doing it right.
Glorious SEA doto
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 03 2013 18:43 GMT
#375
On October 04 2013 03:36 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 03:34 KissBlade wrote:
So I'm planning on watching the Finals with friends on Saturday afternoon instead. Does anyone know how I can catch the games, after they're played, without getting spoiled to the results?



www.reddit.com/r/loleventvods is what I always use for spoiler free vods. (I don't trust lolesports.com with the spoilers)



Thanks!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 03 2013 19:13 GMT
#376
I wouldn't trust any website honestly when it comes to spoilers these days.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22096 Posts
October 03 2013 19:20 GMT
#377
On October 04 2013 04:13 StarStruck wrote:
I wouldn't trust any website honestly when it comes to spoilers these days.


I have never had problems with the reddit thread linked.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 03 2013 19:30 GMT
#378
On October 04 2013 04:20 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:13 StarStruck wrote:
I wouldn't trust any website honestly when it comes to spoilers these days.


I have never had problems with the reddit thread linked.


Keyword here is website. Not just a thread.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22096 Posts
October 03 2013 20:14 GMT
#379
On October 04 2013 04:30 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:20 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:13 StarStruck wrote:
I wouldn't trust any website honestly when it comes to spoilers these days.


I have never had problems with the reddit thread linked.


Keyword here is website. Not just a thread.

Who cares what reddit does when your going to go directly to the actual spoiler free thread.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
October 03 2013 20:33 GMT
#380
I never had trouble not getting spoilered just going to Teamliquid, scrolling down to the LoL subforum, clicking on the event thread, first post always well done, just scroll down to vods, click on either link there, and you are done. Works for every event, always.
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