[MLG] Summer Championships 2012 - Page 112

Nice to see IPL editorial covering an MLG event. Newscorp fair and balanced coverage roots run deep.

On August 28 2012 02:09 Plansix wrote:


What does that have to do with anything? That was clearly an error, since black listing happens automatically if to many connections come from a single IP. It was a mistake(which happen in the real world) and Blizzard fixed it.

All of that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, at all.

On August 28 2012 02:26 nojitosunrise wrote:
League of Legends results are omitted from MLG's press release on Raleigh.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/176575/Winners_Crowned_at_Major_League_Gaming_SummerChampionship.php

edit: Sundance has some choice words against IPL

https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/240141339004661760



Editorial in question

http://www.ign.com/ipl/all/news/mlg-ruling-on-collusion-dignitas-and-curse-sent-home-empty-handed/

On August 28 2012 03:24 kainzero wrote:
i don't see what the big deal is with anything at this tournament.

S2 regionals are next week.
both teams want to be super safe and not bust out any hidden strats.
ARAM eliminates one game where they don't have to play conventional.

competition-wise, the fans should know regionals are next week too. they know there's a trade-off between giving it your all now, or saving it.

this is similar to games at the end of a sports season where they put subs in when they have a guaranteed bye in the first round and they don't want to injure their starters for the playoffs. sure, they could win the conference title, but they would disappoint their fans if they lost their star quarterback to an injury in a "meaningless" game.

On August 28 2012 03:24 kainzero wrote:
i don't see what the big deal is with anything at this tournament.

S2 regionals are next week.
both teams want to be super safe and not bust out any hidden strats.
ARAM eliminates one game where they don't have to play conventional.

competition-wise, the fans should know regionals are next week too. they know there's a trade-off between giving it your all now, or saving it.

this is similar to games at the end of a sports season where they put subs in when they have a guaranteed bye in the first round and they don't want to injure their starters for the playoffs. sure, they could win the conference title, but they would disappoint their fans if they lost their star quarterback to an injury in a "meaningless" game.

On August 28 2012 03:30 corpuscle wrote:


I've never seen a team not take it seriously towards the end of the season during "meaningless" games. Yes, they play their backups, and maybe hide some plays and strategies that they don't want studied for the playoffs, but those backups still try their absolute hardest to win. Play old strategies so that people don't get new info on you, fine, but playing an ARAM is just stupid and kind of offensive (and, if, as I believe, they were colluding, it's more proof of that, since they clearly had to talk and plan it ahead of time).

On August 28 2012 03:24 kainzero wrote:

this is similar to games at the end of a sports season where they put subs in when they have a guaranteed bye in the first round and they don't want to injure their starters for the playoffs. sure, they could win the conference title, but they would disappoint their fans if they lost their star quarterback to an injury in a "meaningless" game.

On August 28 2012 03:34 cLutZ wrote:


So, if Curse had brought in 5 2k + ELO players from the audience as subs (telling them they would get the 8k bonus for winning if they beat Dig) and then those players tried their hardest in the finals you would have been less disappointed?

I think not.

On August 28 2012 03:36 Canucklehead wrote:


The subs still play the same sport with the same rules and everything. They don't do a slam dunk contest in the first half or a home run derby the first 3 innings of a game. ARAM isn't LoL in its true form, so the analogy doesn't ring true.

On August 28 2012 03:34 cLutZ wrote:


So, if Curse had brought in 5 2k + ELO players from the audience as subs (telling them they would get the 8k bonus for winning if they beat Dig) and then those players tried their hardest in the finals you would have been less disappointed?

I think not.

On August 28 2012 03:44 JBright wrote:


This could be possible if Curse didn't have to lock down their lineup of 5 for the event. If their team was big enough for 10 players to play in one team, no one would have a problem. Obviously no one is going to make a 10 man team just to hide strats....that would just be throwing money away (if they are salaried).

On August 28 2012 02:26 nojitosunrise wrote:
League of Legends results are omitted from MLG's press release on Raleigh.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/176575/Winners_Crowned_at_Major_League_Gaming_SummerChampionship.php

edit: Sundance has some choice words against IPL

https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/240141339004661760



Editorial in question

http://www.ign.com/ipl/all/news/mlg-ruling-on-collusion-dignitas-and-curse-sent-home-empty-handed/

On August 28 2012 03:24 kainzero wrote:
i don't see what the big deal is with anything at this tournament.

S2 regionals are next week.
both teams want to be super safe and not bust out any hidden strats.
ARAM eliminates one game where they don't have to play conventional.

competition-wise, the fans should know regionals are next week too. they know there's a trade-off between giving it your all now, or saving it.

this is similar to games at the end of a sports season where they put subs in when they have a guaranteed bye in the first round and they don't want to injure their starters for the playoffs. sure, they could win the conference title, but they would disappoint their fans if they lost their star quarterback to an injury in a "meaningless" game.

On August 28 2012 03:44 cLutZ wrote:


See, but people don't want to discuss the true analogy which is what I talked about just a few posts back:



Because the fact is that that would have been even more ridiculous. Better to watch SaintV troll than me tryhard.


Edit.


But that is just an artifact of MLG's ruleset which is obviously the main culprit in this entire situation. Crumbz and Cop could have just taken Ipecap and thrown up all over and it would have served the same purpose, except the fans wouldn't have gotten to watch 5 fun games.

2nd Edit.

My point being, you cannot use MLG's arbitrary rules to justify discrediting an abstract analogy. You must argue from principles.

On August 28 2012 03:57 Highwayman wrote:


What does Sundance have a problem with? I don't see any bold or inaccurate statements there. Please enlighten me. That seems highly defensive for a response to a pretty benign editorial. Maybe he thinks posting the Curse apology and clarification videos in it is biased?

On August 28 2012 04:01 JBright wrote:


I don't see it as an arbitrary rule. Every sport requires teams to lock down their roster (including subs) for the matches so you can't just pick up a ringer to play for you. I am sure that the teams will have to lock down 5/6 players for PAX and the World Championships. If the players would rather pretend they cannot play just so they can hide strats, then they may as well take the forfeit for not having enough players on the field.

On August 28 2012 04:02 nojitosunrise wrote:


That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I don't think we will ever know unless MLG/RIot release a better statement.