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miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
June 11 2012 01:49 GMT
#2621
On June 11 2012 10:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 10:41 miicah wrote:
On June 11 2012 10:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Your telling me i could have listened to Joe + Jatt this entire time... noooooo



FUAAARKKKK

Also whenever I see a series go the full 3 like this it just feels fake. Like TSM played so well the first game now this throw?

Feels fake? Really?
So all matches should be 2-0 for you to think gg?

The whines in this thread...


When it swings so far in either direction it just feels shady to me. You're right though throw was the wrong word, I meant momentum swing, TSM carried none of it from the first game win.
@miicah88
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#2622
On June 11 2012 10:46 Takkara wrote:
I want to punch MLG in the dick for this player of theirs. Worked OK for most of the day, I had to reset it usually once or twice per series. Now I cannot watch more than 5 mins of the finals without it locking up. If I try to change stream quality, then I either go back 5-10 mins in the game, or I go back to the beginning of today's broadcast. I've tried everything from their support website. This is ridiculous. Just want to watch games...

EDIT: More on topic, all TSM has to do is ban Yorick and that lane swap garbage doesn't really work. Or they could ban Shen and stop the global cockblocks on ganks. Or both. Then CLG is SOL.


Or on twitch, twitch tends to run better in na than eu and vice versa.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 01:51:06
June 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#2623
Why is TSM banning Alistar? Did I miss something? Why not ban Shen?

Oh YES! Ashe to stop that split push.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#2624
tbh tho, TSM should've predicted that lane swap with Ez and Yorick pick. Ez is probably the most abusive AD laner in a 2v1 lane due to his high Q damage. Not having a support means Ez's Qs are more likely to connect and stick. Yorick has been picked as a 1v2 laner since his first showing at a tourney. It's entirely TSM's fault for not adapting to a pretty obviously telegraphed lane swap.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#2625
On June 11 2012 10:49 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
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On June 11 2012 10:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 11 2012 10:45 GeorgeForeman wrote:
CLG's going to have to go "cheesy" again. If it's a straight up match, I'm pretty sure TSM will wreck them. Moar lane switch!

Ez+leona = cheesy? wtf?

I think he means the lane swap lol. But it's now such an obvious part of CLG's repertoire I don't think it's even cheese anymore.


Yeah, calling lane swapping cheese is so dumb. It's just out smarting your opponents and picking better lanes lol. It's the opposite of cheese.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#2626
On June 11 2012 10:49 Slow Motion wrote:
Oh god the poke comp is open plz plz plz CLG.

What? Not another boring slugfest, sure it can be interesting to watch and kinda tense when well executed (CLG.eu can do that), but they are certainly exhausted their supply of slugfest for the tournament already, and CLG.na can't make them interesting.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#2627
On June 11 2012 10:48 Alaric wrote:
Doesn't his Q serve the same purpose if you've got a clear line tho? Short animation with bonus physical damage applying on-hit (but not allowed to crit).



yes, but a skill with an auto reset has an additional 1.0 AD ratio.
Shanba
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland144 Posts
June 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#2628
On June 11 2012 10:45 jacosajh wrote:
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On June 11 2012 10:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Doublelift has really played out of his mine this entire tournament. I mean everyone knew he was always potentially the best AD Carry but he's really showing his improvement here.


IMO, DL just has the best mechanics of any AD, although Chaox and others aren't far behind.

It's just that CLG has the playstyle (especially Chauster) to make him truly shine. For example, as discussed in previous pages, CLG really knows how to turn the tides at low health battles and doing all kinds of bait tactics that can showcase DL's mechanics.

I think it's also that doublelift appears to have really worked on his positioning and mentality on ad carries. In previous tournaments you could see him derping and moving aggressively into teamfights and getting caught and dying and losing clg teamfights as a result. This tournament he has always been moving and positioning appropriately, kiting backwards, attacking safe targets and just generally playing better. Combined with the mad cc that clg has been packing its been extremely difficult for other teams to jump on him and shut him down.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 01:52:20
June 11 2012 01:51 GMT
#2629
On June 11 2012 10:47 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 10:46 Takkara wrote:
I want to punch MLG in the dick for this player of theirs. Worked OK for most of the day, I had to reset it usually once or twice per series. Now I cannot watch more than 5 mins of the finals without it locking up. If I try to change stream quality, then I either go back 5-10 mins in the game, or I go back to the beginning of today's broadcast. I've tried everything from their support website. This is ridiculous. Just want to watch games...

http://solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3249


Thanks for link. Wish it was Jatt stream, but ol' story of beggars/choosers. Just venting and wishing this player would work after spending $20. Been so laggy all weekend.

TSM spots CLG Soraka-GravesKog and lets them keep Shen jungle. Interesting. Let's hope their straight-up play is just as strong as in game 1.

EDIT: Oops, Koggles.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#2630
On June 11 2012 10:47 TheLink wrote:
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On June 11 2012 10:45 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 11 2012 10:42 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Doublelift has 5k more than regi in spite of regi having almost 400 cs. I think he raped that game pretty hard.

Ppl keep forgeting that a big portion of those cs comes from wraiths and wolves and so the g old isnt the same as regular lane creeps


Yeah Reginald took a lot of gold from the TheOddOne which, whilst still obviously worth it, isn't just free income for him. Hotshot also took a ton of farm off his lanes hence why CLG cs was so bad comparatively.


My original comment isn't on that point at all, while it's completely true. All I meant was that it's pretty sick to see someone in a highlevel proffessional game get so fed off kills that he has a significant amount of extra gold compared to an enemy, who even has 100+ cs on him.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
June 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#2631
Ugg. "Protect the Kog! Now with split pushing!!"
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
June 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#2632
Why pick malphite before TSM picks their top lane.......
OxyFuel
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada195 Posts
June 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#2633
Hope TSM can win this vs CLG
Flash | Boxer | qxc | KawaiiRice | LuckyFool | Avilo
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2634
Aniva would be a great last pick for CLG here.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2635
TSM v CLG.NA Grand Finals First Bo3 Game 3
Stream 1: Phreak + Rivington
Stream 2: Jatt + JoeJoeMillerMiller


TSM Bans: Alistar, Urgot, Yorick
CLG Bans: Vladimir, Kennen, Nocturne

TSM Picks: Janna // Ashe Mundo // Olaf Morgananana
CLG Picks: Sorara Shen // Malphite Koggles // Nyaaahri
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2636
Whoa DL on kog? This will be interesting...
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2637
I don't see CLG winning this.....=(
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2638
On June 11 2012 10:49 miicah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 10:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 11 2012 10:41 miicah wrote:
On June 11 2012 10:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Your telling me i could have listened to Joe + Jatt this entire time... noooooo



FUAAARKKKK

Also whenever I see a series go the full 3 like this it just feels fake. Like TSM played so well the first game now this throw?

Feels fake? Really?
So all matches should be 2-0 for you to think gg?

The whines in this thread...


When it swings so far in either direction it just feels shady to me. You're right though throw was the wrong word, I meant momentum swing, TSM carried none of it from the first game win.


BW/SC2 fans love it when this happens. It makes for exciting games and obv more games.
Sometimes I think LoL viewers fanboy way too hard.

Game 1 and 2, the losers were poorly prepared for the winner's strat. In a BoX series, it creates some excitement.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#2639
<3 jiji Ahri.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
June 11 2012 01:54 GMT
#2640
On June 11 2012 10:47 jacosajh wrote:
Ok ok I spoke to soon. It wasn't a throw.

What I mean is how decisive TSM won the first game and how decisive CLG won the second game.


It really showcases how huge a factor initiative is. CLG looks way out-classed when it's TSM making the plays against them, but if you have CLG with a curveball strategy, TSM are the ones looking inferior as they try to deal with it.
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