On October 04 2011 17:17 -Kato- wrote:
Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna?
Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna?
I guess it just depends on how well/often Jiji can land his balls on Akali's face :D
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:17 -Kato- wrote: Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna? I guess it just depends on how well/often Jiji can land his balls on Akali's face :D | ||
JRylez
United States18 Posts
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
I agree fully that he should learn Kog. I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or questioning me. I'm not just basing this off nothing though, I promise! After IEM Cologne when Kog was picked/banned in like every game after bigfatjiji played him Chauster was streaming and bought Kog on the WiseQuoter account saying something like, "I should probably practice him..." Combined with the fact that I don't think Chauster has ever played Kog in a tournament game once. There have been plenty of games just in this tournament alone where it made more sense for CLG to pick up Kog and if I can realize this as a scrub I'm sure CLG realizes it. Regardless, it looks like CLG was smart enough to ban Caitlyn this game. Not sure why SK banned Kog though lol. Who played Kog WCG 2010? During the Qualifiers, was it EG or CLG? | ||
Xevious
United States2086 Posts
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:15 overt wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:02 Gooey wrote: On October 04 2011 16:59 overt wrote: On October 04 2011 16:57 Redox wrote: On October 04 2011 16:53 overt wrote: So next game CLG might want to consider banning Caitlyn or first picking her if given the chance. Give yourself some real options bot lane. I dunno what else for bans/picks. They're just playing really poorly and SK is punishing them hard. Well its not like just Caitlyn was dominating them. Sk won basially all lanes. I am quite happy about this because of all the trash talking Sk and especially Wickd received. Just sad when people bandwagon and talk cluelessly. Yeh, it wasn't just about Caitlyn. SK outplayed CLG hard. But Chauster, imo, isn't confident on Kog. Meaning if SK bans Urgot and runs Caitlyn they have a guaranteed win on bottom lane. CLG needs to either take the Caitlyn or they need to ban her so they can actually play a bottom lane. As for other picks/bans, I can't say much cause if CLG keeps playing like this and SK doesn't let up it'll be an easy 2-0 for SK. You said that earlier about Chauster not being comfortable on a Kog'Ma. Why on earth would a tournament player, who's roll is range AD carry, that travels around the world the major prestigious tournaments, not take the time to get comfortable on one of the best range AD champions in the game? That just sounds like stubbornness. You would think a professional would take the time to get comfortable on such a champion to provide his team with the best chance to win. I agree fully that he should learn Kog. I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or questioning me. I'm not just basing this off nothing though, I promise! After IEM Cologne when Kog was picked/banned in like every game after bigfatjiji played him Chauster was streaming and bought Kog on the WiseQuoter account saying something like, "I should probably practice him..." Combined with the fact that I don't think Chauster has ever played Kog in a tournament game once. There have been plenty of games just in this tournament alone where it made more sense for CLG to pick up Kog and if I can realize this as a scrub I'm sure CLG realizes it. Regardless, it looks like CLG was smart enough to ban Caitlyn this game. Not sure why SK banned Kog though lol. They just banned him, because that is what you are supposed to do, but they must not know about Chauster's inexperience. And, I wasn't questioning you, I was more questioning Chauster's work ethic hurting his team. It's like protoss in SC2 saying for an entire year "you know I should REALLY learn to use this warp prism thing, I have a feeling it's gunna be important...". Once people figured all the bullshit out, toss are like "damn, I guess I have to learn this other extra thing that is really hard to master in order to be 100% competitive". | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late akali does mad damage late game assuming she gets enough gold. a fully farmed akali just rips through everything. with right picks/play it's not too hard to shut down an akali tho. On October 04 2011 17:18 Slayer91 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:15 Ryuu314 wrote: On October 04 2011 17:07 Slayer91 wrote: Just a few things to point out from Irelia's perspective: -Wickd bought Wits end AND boots at first back, got red and just raped hotshot out of lane. -CLG seemed a bit thrown off by the tank playstyle of Irelia of just sitting there and hitting hotshot with attack speed enhanced level 5 hiten style on chogath saying "come at me bro" to ashe and zilean. The large majority of irelia players get a fast trinity and hard engage onto a squishy which is harder to pull off in organized play since ashe can just arrow after wickd goes in to hold off cass/cait and focus him fast, especially when amumu isn't a big deterence to hitting a not that tanky irelia. He also got cdr from shurelyas before atmas because he wants to spam his W and E more. Hotshot likes to get farmed and just run in and go for their AD carry while everyone is ignoring him because he's so tanky, SK shut that down and they weren't able to punish the focus on the sitting duck hotshot because of the massive threat of amumu+irelia going in. The frozen mallet perma slow and E means hotshot has to flash out all the time. Zilean definitely felt like the weakpoint. Not threat to casseopia on their team. Ashe was zoned out, chogath was getting focused. Lee sin is highly overrated and couldn't really pull much off in teamfights as long as the squishies stay protected. Also SK getting the imba Cass with no bursters. Hurr. I wouldn't call Lee overrated. He's super strong, but the problem was that CLG couldn't take advantage of Lee Sin's amazing ganks 'cause Nyph/Candy lane is just too damn strong. Wickd was just raping Cho pretty hard for the vast majority of laning and Hotshot was too far behind/low for Saint's ganks to succeed. Jiji got behind after getting killed by Amumu gank and it just snowballed from there. Lee's damage is strong, but only if he gets items. Without items he can't abuse his insane scaling. I agree w/ the rest tho. Lee sin ganks are pretty strong I meant his teamfighting. Still amumu is better for ganking a mid lane. Well that's partially due to CLG not doing too hot overall. SV wasn't able to get the gold he needs to really take advantage of Lee Sin's crazy scaling. | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late We saw just that in WE vs. eHome game 1. Akali dominated up to mid game but then the other team got mr and she didn't do too much. But maybe it's also her team left her alone a few times when she jumped in. | ||
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:17 -Kato- wrote: Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna? Heard Oce say on stream that Akali destroys Orianna. Guess thats the main reason for the pick. | ||
toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:19 JBright wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late We saw just that in WE vs. eHome game 1. Akali dominated up to mid game but then the other team got mr and she didn't do too much. But maybe it's also her team left her alone a few times when she jumped in. Akali dove to much that game, that's why she died. She also built a Triforce. She should have just built a lichbane instead and done more physical... | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:19 JBright wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late We saw just that in WE vs. eHome game 1. Akali dominated up to mid game but then the other team got mr and she didn't do too much. But maybe it's also her team left her alone a few times when she jumped in. Well, personally I feel that that was due to Akali going for Triforce. Expensive as shit item for sub-optimal stats imo. Not to mention Akali rushed a GA as well. Lichbane would've been much better and cheaper. Instead of going Triforce/GA, the Akali should've gone for Rylais/Lichbane and she would've done much better imo... | ||
Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:20 Redox wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:17 -Kato- wrote: Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna? Heard Oce say on stream that Akali destroys Orianna. Guess thats the main reason for the pick. Yeah it does in theory and most of reality but this is jiji's Orianna we're talking about. | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:19 Gooey wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:15 overt wrote: On October 04 2011 17:02 Gooey wrote: On October 04 2011 16:59 overt wrote: On October 04 2011 16:57 Redox wrote: On October 04 2011 16:53 overt wrote: So next game CLG might want to consider banning Caitlyn or first picking her if given the chance. Give yourself some real options bot lane. I dunno what else for bans/picks. They're just playing really poorly and SK is punishing them hard. Well its not like just Caitlyn was dominating them. Sk won basially all lanes. I am quite happy about this because of all the trash talking Sk and especially Wickd received. Just sad when people bandwagon and talk cluelessly. Yeh, it wasn't just about Caitlyn. SK outplayed CLG hard. But Chauster, imo, isn't confident on Kog. Meaning if SK bans Urgot and runs Caitlyn they have a guaranteed win on bottom lane. CLG needs to either take the Caitlyn or they need to ban her so they can actually play a bottom lane. As for other picks/bans, I can't say much cause if CLG keeps playing like this and SK doesn't let up it'll be an easy 2-0 for SK. You said that earlier about Chauster not being comfortable on a Kog'Ma. Why on earth would a tournament player, who's roll is range AD carry, that travels around the world the major prestigious tournaments, not take the time to get comfortable on one of the best range AD champions in the game? That just sounds like stubbornness. You would think a professional would take the time to get comfortable on such a champion to provide his team with the best chance to win. I agree fully that he should learn Kog. I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or questioning me. I'm not just basing this off nothing though, I promise! After IEM Cologne when Kog was picked/banned in like every game after bigfatjiji played him Chauster was streaming and bought Kog on the WiseQuoter account saying something like, "I should probably practice him..." Combined with the fact that I don't think Chauster has ever played Kog in a tournament game once. There have been plenty of games just in this tournament alone where it made more sense for CLG to pick up Kog and if I can realize this as a scrub I'm sure CLG realizes it. Regardless, it looks like CLG was smart enough to ban Caitlyn this game. Not sure why SK banned Kog though lol. They just banned him, because that is what you are supposed to do, but they must not know about Chauster's inexperience. And, I wasn't questioning you, I was more questioning Chauster's work ethic hurting his team. It's like protoss in SC2 saying for an entire year "you know I should REALLY learn to use this warp prism thing, I have a feeling it's gunna be important...". Once people figured all the bullshit out, toss are like "damn, I guess I have to learn this other extra thing that is really hard to master in order to be 100% competitive". Yeah, I love Chauster to death. He's probably my favorite pro. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that CLG tends to take competitive LoL a bit less serious than other teams and they also tend to be really arrogant. Still, for the love of winning, learn to play Kog after this tournament Chauster. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:21 Slow Motion wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:20 Redox wrote: On October 04 2011 17:17 -Kato- wrote: Oce balls of steel. How does Akali work vs Orianna? Heard Oce say on stream that Akali destroys Orianna. Guess thats the main reason for the pick. Yeah it does in theory and most of reality but this is jiji's Orianna we're talking about. And Jiji was the weakest link on CLG last game and has been playing kinda meh these days... | ||
d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:22 -Kato- wrote: Just checked Oce's profile and Akali is his most used champion in S1 with 145-94 (61%) so he must know something. Why would he pick a champion that he's inexperienced with? | ||
oooo27
342 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:19 JBright wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late We saw just that in WE vs. eHome game 1. Akali dominated up to mid game but then the other team got mr and she didn't do too much. But maybe it's also her team left her alone a few times when she jumped in. yeah, but in that game Akali was really the only threat and they all killed her in 0.5s SK also has Trist and Irelia (is she isnt going tanky) | ||
Gooey
United States944 Posts
On October 04 2011 17:19 JBright wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2011 17:18 JRylez wrote: can akali do enough damage late game? i've never really seen one be able to last in late We saw just that in WE vs. eHome game 1. Akali dominated up to mid game but then the other team got mr and she didn't do too much. But maybe it's also her team left her alone a few times when she jumped in. AH, yes, that was with a zilian mid lane as well. Akali built an insanely fast guardian angle, straight after her gunblade, and ended up not doing enough damage. I remember she dove in down near enemy ghouls and got separated from zilian, resulting in her dying for no reason. Game went downhill from there, and someone translated chat of akali saying "if we do not hurry, I'll soon be useless". They tried to rush a baron shortly after, failed, and lost the game about 5 minutes later. | ||
JRylez
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Caller
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