[IEM] Guangzhou Discussion - Page 94

On October 04 2011 17:06 toastymow wrote:
But what happened was what happens a lot on NA teams: no damage. They needed Jiji to run a AP carry with mega dps, not Zilean. The ashe pick was fine, but a lane dominant mage would have really done good this game.

On October 04 2011 17:11 Lunko wrote:
Force Wickd to play trundle, win easy.

On October 04 2011 17:07 Slayer91 wrote:
Just a few things to point out from Irelia's perspective:

-Wickd bought Wits end AND boots at first back, got red and just raped hotshot out of lane.
-CLG seemed a bit thrown off by the tank playstyle of Irelia of just sitting there and hitting hotshot with attack speed enhanced level 5 hiten style on chogath saying "come at me bro" to ashe and zilean. The large majority of irelia players get a fast trinity and hard engage onto a squishy which is harder to pull off in organized play since ashe can just arrow after wickd goes in to hold off cass/cait and focus him fast, especially when amumu isn't a big deterence to hitting a not that tanky irelia. He also got cdr from shurelyas before atmas because he wants to spam his W and E more.

Hotshot likes to get farmed and just run in and go for their AD carry while everyone is ignoring him because he's so tanky, SK shut that down and they weren't able to punish the focus on the sitting duck hotshot because of the massive threat of amumu+irelia going in. The frozen mallet perma slow and E means hotshot has to flash out all the time.

Zilean definitely felt like the weakpoint. Not threat to casseopia on their team. Ashe was zoned out, chogath was getting focused. Lee sin is highly overrated and couldn't really pull much off in teamfights as long as the squishies stay protected.

Also SK getting the imba Cass with no bursters. Hurr.

On October 04 2011 17:02 Gooey wrote:


You said that earlier about Chauster not being comfortable on a Kog'Ma. Why on earth would a tournament player, who's roll is range AD carry, that travels around the world the major prestigious tournaments, not take the time to get comfortable on one of the best range AD champions in the game? That just sounds like stubbornness. You would think a professional would take the time to get comfortable on such a champion to provide his team with the best chance to win.

On October 04 2011 17:15 Ryuu314 wrote:

I wouldn't call Lee overrated. He's super strong, but the problem was that CLG couldn't take advantage of Lee Sin's amazing ganks 'cause Nyph/Candy lane is just too damn strong. Wickd was just raping Cho pretty hard for the vast majority of laning and Hotshot was too far behind/low for Saint's ganks to succeed. Jiji got behind after getting killed by Amumu gank and it just snowballed from there. Lee's damage is strong, but only if he gets items. Without items he can't abuse his insane scaling.

I agree w/ the rest tho.