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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 03:29:53
June 16 2013 23:26 GMT
#441
Does Aatrox's blood well get reduced by ignite? If so then I'll always get ignite if I'm top against him. Once he loses his passive he loses all his bonus aspd so shutting him down that first time seems pretty important. Also he has sustain so you can't just trade with him and then leave him alone. Once you start trading you can't stop.

Does he get damaged by ignite while in stasis?

Edit: this isn't on the wiki.
And no... it doesn't. His passive is for all intents and purposes a Zhonyas.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#442
Everyone seems to be moving away from Wriggle's on junglers; what item should I build first then? Ancient Golem?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
June 17 2013 03:08 GMT
#443
Does Renekton's W proc tiamat/hydra twice? Does it proc three times with 50 fury?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 03:31:06
June 17 2013 03:28 GMT
#444
On June 17 2013 12:08 sixduck wrote:
Does Renekton's W proc tiamat/hydra twice? Does it proc three times with 50 fury?

No, Cleave does not trigger on on hit effects the wiki says.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Tiamat
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 06:55:49
June 17 2013 06:55 GMT
#445
On June 17 2013 12:28 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 12:08 sixduck wrote:
Does Renekton's W proc tiamat/hydra twice? Does it proc three times with 50 fury?

No, Cleave does not trigger on on hit effects the wiki says.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Tiamat


But his W isn't an onhit effect. Its coded similarly to Jayce ranged form W.

I actually believe it does, but I not positive. I know if you use his auto-W it stacks BC four times.

EDIT: Just tested it, the hydra splash damage counter is twice as much/three times a smuch on a W empowered attack than a regular attack.

Sorry Chicken, you wrong on this one.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 18 2013 03:05 GMT
#446
How good is Xerath against AD assassin mids (such as Talon, Kha'Zix, etc)? Does his passive, and his long range poke make him viable?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 18 2013 04:55 GMT
#447
On June 18 2013 12:05 BrokenMirage wrote:
How good is Xerath against AD assassin mids (such as Talon, Kha'Zix, etc)? Does his passive, and his long range poke make him viable?


He's fine just because of his range and waveclear but his passive does basically nothing because the numbers are just so low, basically same as any other long range mid.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 18 2013 05:47 GMT
#448
What is the general approach to laning against Yorick? I have had a games in a row playing vs one. T.T
- preferably not champion pick-wise.
- I know he is easy to gank.

Had a really fun game as Aatrox vs him which was basically a 24/7 brawling lanephase of us going ham on each other at every teeny weeny chance, it was fairly fun both of us ended up with really low farm in lanephase and I eventually won the lane since we'd trade 1 for 1 whenever we had ults - eventually it collided with a timer where I had my passive. Don't really seem like a reliable option tho, and only feasible with Aatrox.
I've never died and gotten so many kills in lane before. lol
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 18 2013 06:14 GMT
#449
On June 18 2013 14:47 Jek wrote:
What is the general approach to laning against Yorick? I have had a games in a row playing vs one. T.T
- preferably not champion pick-wise.
- I know he is easy to gank.

Had a really fun game as Aatrox vs him which was basically a 24/7 brawling lanephase of us going ham on each other at every teeny weeny chance, it was fairly fun both of us ended up with really low farm in lanephase and I eventually won the lane since we'd trade 1 for 1 whenever we had ults - eventually it collided with a timer where I had my passive. Don't really seem like a reliable option tho, and only feasible with Aatrox.
I've never died and gotten so many kills in lane before. lol

You don't win lane; you just don't lose lane terribly. Then hope to outscale him later on.
liftlift > tsm
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 18 2013 06:26 GMT
#450
On June 18 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 14:47 Jek wrote:
What is the general approach to laning against Yorick? I have had a games in a row playing vs one. T.T
- preferably not champion pick-wise.
- I know he is easy to gank.

Had a really fun game as Aatrox vs him which was basically a 24/7 brawling lanephase of us going ham on each other at every teeny weeny chance, it was fairly fun both of us ended up with really low farm in lanephase and I eventually won the lane since we'd trade 1 for 1 whenever we had ults - eventually it collided with a timer where I had my passive. Don't really seem like a reliable option tho, and only feasible with Aatrox.
I've never died and gotten so many kills in lane before. lol

You don't win lane; you just don't lose lane terribly. Then hope to outscale him later on.

This is what I feared.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 18 2013 09:09 GMT
#451
On June 18 2013 15:26 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 18 2013 14:47 Jek wrote:
What is the general approach to laning against Yorick? I have had a games in a row playing vs one. T.T
- preferably not champion pick-wise.
- I know he is easy to gank.

Had a really fun game as Aatrox vs him which was basically a 24/7 brawling lanephase of us going ham on each other at every teeny weeny chance, it was fairly fun both of us ended up with really low farm in lanephase and I eventually won the lane since we'd trade 1 for 1 whenever we had ults - eventually it collided with a timer where I had my passive. Don't really seem like a reliable option tho, and only feasible with Aatrox.
I've never died and gotten so many kills in lane before. lol

You don't win lane; you just don't lose lane terribly. Then hope to outscale him later on.

This is what I feared.

Following up on vs Yorick toplanes, I've considering buying health regen quints - would this be a good choice for this specific match up? I'm thinking it'd help not getting forced out of lane.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#452
This is true vs Yorick and a lot of other top lanes with harass - buy pots (e.g. cloth+5pot or rejuv+5pot+ward start) and push your wave. If you keep the wave at least halfway up the lane, you can juke into brushes and force him to focus on last hitting to avoid ranged harass. Being stuck at your turret is awful against ranged champs since they can still harass you while taking virtually no tower damage, and last hitting is much harder.

Yorick in particular, similar to champs like Pantheon, is a mana vs pots game early on. If you have enough pots to outlast his mana, you effectively pushed him out of lane. If you don't, then you are forced out and have to back. After he grabs his tear/manamune the matchup is no longer mana-based, and if you are really behind on cs then you won't be able to fight him.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 18 2013 17:06 GMT
#453
Not exactly true, Nunu totally beats yorick in lane.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11781 Posts
June 18 2013 17:20 GMT
#454
Does he really beat him, or just go even? Because Yorick outscales nunu pretty hard, and i don't really see a nunu actually killing or zoning yorick once he got his tear.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#455
Hey how do you guys feel about Spirit of the Elder Lizard on select top laners after the nerfs? Is it still the bee's knees? Sorry to ask, but I'm not LoL savvy enough to know whether or not the -10 attack damage is a huge nerf or not.

I play Darius top lane, if that helps.

Thanks in advance!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11781 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 19:36:15
June 18 2013 19:36 GMT
#456
I am not that savy here, so take what i say with a grain of salt.

I would just compare two similar items, SotEL and Brutalizer.

SotEL gives you an additional 10 AD, the passive, and the regeneration stats, and costs 663 additional gold.
Brutalizer gives you 10 armor penetration.

10 AD is usually valued at around 400 gold (longsword), so the question is whether you would rather have the regeneration and the SotEL passive, or the armor penetration + ~300g. Furthermore, you should note that you would reach your item timings a bit faster with the Brutalizer. I personally would go for the brutalizer in most cases.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
June 18 2013 20:05 GMT
#457
What do you do as a support to mount a comeback when your team has fallen behind post-lane?

I pretty much only play Janna and Leona, so even if I personally fall behind my champion's kit stays relevant through the entire game (though I am hoping for advice that could apply to the role more-so than specific champions).

I understand the importance of keeping up ward coverage (dependent on map control and what can be warded without risking death, etc) and proper use of my spells in fights, but beyond that I'm sort of at a loss.

Hopefully some skilled support players have little tidbits of knowledge?

Thanks!

Stay positive!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:35:17
June 18 2013 21:32 GMT
#458
On June 19 2013 04:36 Simberto wrote:
I am not that savy here, so take what i say with a grain of salt.

I would just compare two similar items, SotEL and Brutalizer.

SotEL gives you an additional 10 AD, the passive, and the regeneration stats, and costs 663 additional gold.
Brutalizer gives you 10 armor penetration.

10 AD is usually valued at around 400 gold (longsword), so the question is whether you would rather have the regeneration and the SotEL passive, or the armor penetration + ~300g. Furthermore, you should note that you would reach your item timings a bit faster with the Brutalizer. I personally would go for the brutalizer in most cases.

There was some kind of math int he GD thread, where basically SOTEL is like, better than Bruta in almost every case

On June 19 2013 02:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Not exactly true, Nunu totally beats yorick in lane.


no at worst barring nunus jungle camping yorick all game, it'll turn into a farm lane and Yorick does alot more than nunu.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 18 2013 23:15 GMT
#459
On June 19 2013 02:44 Frudgey wrote:
Hey how do you guys feel about Spirit of the Elder Lizard on select top laners after the nerfs? Is it still the bee's knees? Sorry to ask, but I'm not LoL savvy enough to know whether or not the -10 attack damage is a huge nerf or not.

I play Darius top lane, if that helps.

Thanks in advance!

It's good item. But as far as darius is concerned. Botrk is a super nice first item pickup.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2013 23:56 GMT
#460
Doesn't Darius want to get tanky so he can hit a whole lot of punishment and still have more than 100 HP when in kill range of the enemy backline? Hence the focus on sunfire/mallet/randuin's/Maw/etc.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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