Assume for the sake of answering a) and b) that the amount of inventory slots available is not an issue.

Is there any difference in total gold cost between:
a) buying the prerequisite items for a powerful item first and then buying the item
b) pooling your money until you have enough for the powerful item and buying it in one transaction

Now assuming one has finitely many inventory slots and if a) is true, does this necessarily incentivise buying the pre-reqs as soon as one has the money so as to gain their buffs while building towards the powerful item?

Simberto

Germany11977 Posts

May 22 2013 20:53 GMT

#382

No.

Full items build out of the prereq, and the total cost is always the same. For example, if you want to buy an aegis of the legion, you can buy a ruby (475) + a null mantle (400) + Emblem of Valor (650) for a total of 1525, and then pay the combine cost of 625 for a total of 2150, or buy the whole thing in one swoop for 2150. So, whenever you got the money (and can back without losing things), buy the parts because they do things for your item.

Generally speaking, you should always try to spend your money, because it does nothing for you in the bank. However, you need to be in base to spend your money, which is kind of a tradeoff. So a lot of laning revolves around creating situations where you can go back without losing anything, or those where your enemy loses creeps if he goes back, thus preventing him from spending his money and giving you an advantage because you turned more of your money into stats rather then a big bank cheque.

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

May 23 2013 11:39 GMT

#383

One thing that many players don't realize/take advantage of is if you give up first blood to the enemy laner and they stay around, you briefly have an advantage (assuming you didn't lose too much xp and had enough gold to buy something). A lot of the time people will get a kill, then stick around when they don't even get anything from it, and you can abuse that to get some advantage over them.

FalconPunch

United States134 Posts

May 25 2013 20:39 GMT

#384

Just started playing LoL, so I suck pretty bad. One thing that helped me tremendously in learning SC2, was watching first person views of pros (idra), especially with commentary.

1) Is there a resource where I can find high level LoL first person views of specific champions? I'm trying to play Elise now because she reminds me of a blink stalker.

2) Also, is there one go-to site for LoL champion guides? Or the equivalent of TL in terms of SC2?

Keniji

Netherlands2569 Posts

May 25 2013 21:14 GMT

#385

On May 26 2013 05:39 FalconPunch wrote:
Just started playing LoL, so I suck pretty bad. One thing that helped me tremendously in learning SC2, was watching first person views of pros (idra), especially with commentary.

1) Is there a resource where I can find high level LoL first person views of specific champions? I'm trying to play Elise now because she reminds me of a blink stalker.

2) Also, is there one go-to site for LoL champion guides? Or the equivalent of TL in terms of SC2?

1) not that I know. www.solomid.net/streams are plenty of streams of high level players. You can't search for specific champions and or matchups tho. (would be pretty awesome to have). Once you have a knowledge of which pro players play which position you can at least look for that.

I, for example, mainly watch xpeke because he is good, plays mid and the pro asians don't stream or at least I don't know it.

2) www.solomid.net, www.lolking.net both have good guides (actually, there are alot of sites with guides) Usually they only go into build orders, masteries and stuff. Not indepth stuff. Lolking.net also has some matchups in the guides, but they are not detailed and pretty much useless.
TL has champion specific threads. Check them out. Sometimes the OP is outdated but you can always ask questions there.

TLs equivalent for LoL is TL. You won't find better.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 25 2013 21:18 GMT

#386

The equivalent of TL would be... TL. We have pretty deep champion threads, but if it's a bit too much for you to rummage through, lolking, lolpro, etc. all have guides (I think there's also a probuilds.net or something like that that registers every pro soloQ game, which champ they played, which runes they used, final build, etc.).

As for FPVoD, unless rummaging through Twitch VoDs... nope. There are still hubs like solomid.net with a bunch of stream, but unless your champ is pretty popular (and not often banned like Elise is) you could be waiting for awhile before you find somebody streaming a game of that champ.

Ente

Germany1795 Posts

May 26 2013 00:17 GMT

#387

There are really few great guides imo. Probably your best bet is a non pro player guide (they are most of the time unjustified extremly upvoted some are decent though) high rated on mainly solo mid ( at least when I started playing ~ 2years ago the best were on solo mid)
But watching streams and questioning the gameplay of pros is in general the best idea. For toplane (I assume elise top and not jungle? one of the better ones is wingsofdeath but as said elise is one of the most banned champs around)

But imo the main thing is just getting experience and playing a lot of games /knowing what every champ can do etc

101toss

3232 Posts

May 26 2013 05:24 GMT

#388

Fun fact: If nunu consume damages at the same time with his smite, it will count as one tick of damage

This makes it impossible to lose baron unless you get trolled by a baron knockback or something

Efficient

Australia32 Posts

May 26 2013 19:42 GMT

#389

Is there an easy way to mute or ignore other players other than the chat command? If not do I type \mute "summoner name" with or without quotes?

Simberto

Germany11977 Posts

May 26 2013 19:51 GMT

#390

Ingame, push tab, click onto the small speech bubble on the right side of the window next to the person you want to mute.

Efficient

Australia32 Posts

May 26 2013 20:13 GMT

#391

On May 27 2013 04:51 Simberto wrote:
Ingame, push tab, click onto the small speech bubble on the right side of the window next to the person you want to mute.

Thanks! Here's another simple question. What game mode earns IP the fastest?

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

May 27 2013 00:13 GMT

#392

On May 27 2013 05:13 Efficient wrote:

Show nested quote +

Thanks! Here's another simple question. What game mode earns IP the fastest?

I believe bot games of Dominion are the fastest IP gain over a long period of time.

Arisen

United States2382 Posts

May 27 2013 08:05 GMT

#393

I'm having trouble playing junglers.

I want to get good at lee sin, but i have a really hard time successfully ganking. I can never seem to find pushed lanes at convenient times. Even at times where the enemy laner is in an ok position to gank, they always seem to being so cautious that I feel like it's a mistake to show myself and try for a kill that probably won't happen (maybe I'm just stepping on a lot of wards, idk, my teammates will seldom answer when i ask where wards are).

How do I force opportunities to gank or capitalize better on the opportunities that already are presented? How do I know before hand which lanes to make my way to? How do I know when to give up on a gank and keep farming?

Capricious_LoL

United States222 Posts

May 27 2013 10:38 GMT

#394

On May 27 2013 17:05 Arisen wrote:
I'm having trouble playing junglers.

I want to get good at lee sin, but i have a really hard time successfully ganking. I can never seem to find pushed lanes at convenient times. Even at times where the enemy laner is in an ok position to gank, they always seem to being so cautious that I feel like it's a mistake to show myself and try for a kill that probably won't happen (maybe I'm just stepping on a lot of wards, idk, my teammates will seldom answer when i ask where wards are).

How do I force opportunities to gank or capitalize better on the opportunities that already are presented? How do I know before hand which lanes to make my way to? How do I know when to give up on a gank and keep farming?

This is hard to answer without a replay.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 27 2013 11:31 GMT

#395

Have you played jungle for awhile? You will fuck up at times, especially in the beginning, and since jungle is primarily about decision-making (well Lee is an exception with his mechanical skill-ceiling), trying to gank anyway will help you now when you can exploit mistakes even when the laner knows you're there, or simply if he's playing cautious because he knows he's in a risky position or if he really knows you're there (don't hesitate to check the lanes while you're doing camps, if you notice the laner is cautious even when you're not there then it's probably him knowing he's gankable, rather than having a ward where you'll move through 20s later).

YouGotNothin

United States907 Posts

May 27 2013 23:17 GMT

#396

are there any champions that actually utilize Zephyr well? It seems like a cool item but I never see anyone using it. It seems best for melee adcs but doesn't go great with the assassin concept which most melee adcs are these days.

Magus

Canada450 Posts

May 28 2013 01:20 GMT

#397

On May 28 2013 08:17 YouGotNothin wrote:
are there any champions that actually utilize Zephyr well? It seems like a cool item but I never see anyone using it. It seems best for melee adcs but doesn't go great with the assassin concept which most melee adcs are these days.

Jax, Irelia, and Udyr. So ya, melee carries. Although it's purely a luxury item on Udyr, and probably a late buy for Irelia since you'd prioritize TF or BotRK and then getting tanky.

So pretty much it's for Jax.

Zess

Adun Toridas!9144 Posts

May 28 2013 02:27 GMT

#398

You can sell boots for Zephyr on some ADCs when you have 3k gold on top of being 6 item and you don't need Homeguard