EPTBut I'm also curious, what items would be ideal if you needed to build tankier? Maybe add things like aegis, hexdrinker, randuins, earlier GA components?
[Champion] Riven - Page 24
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danana
United States321 Posts
But I'm also curious, what items would be ideal if you needed to build tankier? Maybe add things like aegis, hexdrinker, randuins, earlier GA components? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Maybe something like Wriggles->Mercs->BT->GA->Atmas->Hexdrinker? You lose out on Armor pen and about 30 AD as compared to LW+IE, but you get 40 armor and MR, should put you around 200 of each which realistically is pretty tanky considering you 2k base HP at 18, and the 1200~ you get from popping E in teamfights. Not having the Last Whisper hurts though. <3 Armor Pen. Realistically, most games you won't need both either. Just grab the corresponding resist to the one who is fed and grab the LW. | ||
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koreasilver
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and you basically just /ignore people if they think you're stupid for building Riven the way this thread tells you to. I've won so many lost games simply because the enemy Riven tried to build metagolem and dealt 0 damage in the lategame. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On February 28 2012 03:45 iCanada wrote: I don't think it is morons. I was playing fives with a couples buddies and I literally had to explain why Riven worked as a carry and how it worked. Made my friend Jungle Malphite and I grabbed a Pentakill. It isn't morons, just ignorant players. Everyone think she supposed to be a bruiser for some reason. I was playing in a 5man premade and we had a jungle chogath who insisted I was to initiate >_> fuck this E: I think (from my very limited experience anyway) mallet is the best defensive item after GA riven can have. riven itself may not benefit from slow much but it's extra cc on your target that helps the team too. That said, I've only built mallet like once for the 20 games I've had with riven so.. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:39 greggy wrote: I was playing in a 5man premade and we had a jungle chogath who insisted I was to initiate >_> fuck this You explain that all her abilities have good AD ratios, and that with her Passive/Ulti she literally has the best AD scaling in the game? With full item build you see her autos deal 1.2x(400+(15+(300x0.5))=678 without a crit assuming Ulti is up and you utilizing her passive. Considering to start a teamfight you can have 7(R+3Q+W+E+R) passive enhanced autos that is enough to have em throughout the entire teamfight. if you hit a crit with your IE that is an absurd 678x2.5=1695 damage. Thats enough damage to gimp both carries within the ~10 seconds her combo takes without factoring in the (130+(300x0.7)x3=1020 splash damage from Q, or the (170+(300x1.0)=470 splash from her W... let alone her Windlash which has a 1.8 AD scaling on it. Thats like 2k splash damage easily (with minimum Windslash starting at (160+(bADx0.6))) on top of absurd AA damage. If they see that maths and still think Riven should initiate you need to find different friends. I mean, that pre damage reduction, but thats still absurd. | ||
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koreasilver
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
Basically, she stays behind her creeps, sometimes in the bush and keep attacking me (no lance) et went for the kill when she was 6. She also got trap at level 1. | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
On February 29 2012 07:07 Erasme wrote: I get raped by a nidalee, any advice on how to zone her ? Basically, she stays behind her creeps, sometimes in the bush and keep attacking me (no lance) et went for the kill when she was 6. She also got trap at level 1. I would say to open boots 3pot make sure you get an early valor (to dodge that damn spear) you should be able to destroy her straight up I would be super aggressive. She is annoying but you should be able to dominate her. Plus nidalee is pretty useless I'n teambattles. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 29 2012 13:58 Sufficiency wrote: Can someone tell me how her passive works? after you use any skill (including 3 procs for her 3 uses of Q), you get a mark. you consume a mark when you auto-attack. marks add a set amount of AD to your auto attack. you can store up to 3 marks | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 29 2012 14:08 gtrsrs wrote: after you use any skill (including 3 procs for her 3 uses of Q), you get a mark. you consume a mark when you auto-attack. marks add a set amount of AD to your auto attack. you can store up to 3 marks Thanks. The description in game wasn't clear at all. | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
On February 29 2012 13:58 Sufficiency wrote: Can someone tell me how her passive works? Sure. After each ability use (every press of q,w,e) you get a runic blade charge up to 3 charges. You expend these charges by auto-attacking each AA uses one charge dealing 5,7,9,11,13,15 + .5 per BONUS AD extra physical damage! Note that her ultimate stacks with this! So say u have a fully stacked blood thirster giving you 100AD then at lvl 18 each charge you use will deal 15+50=65 bonus damage so your full damage (not accounting for armour) would be 103(base ad at lvl 18)+100(fully stacked bloodthirster)+65(extra damage from passive)= 268 physical damage! If your ultimate is active it increases bonus ad by 20% so it would be an extra 20ad (20% of 100ad from bloodthirster) so it will do 288 physical damage! | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
On February 29 2012 14:08 gtrsrs wrote: after you use any skill (including 3 procs for her 3 uses of Q), you get a mark. you consume a mark when you auto-attack. marks add a set amount of AD to your auto attack. you can store up to 3 marks Darn too slow..... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Not slow at all  Thanks! I am new to LoL but not new to dota. I thought I'd try LoL and I ended up using Riven for 2 games (I picked her because her white hair looks kind of cool >__> ). I was a little stunned by the fact that none of her abilities use mana... Anyway, by the look of things, I suppose +attack speed is not too useful on her. | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
On February 29 2012 14:28 Sufficiency wrote: Not slow at all Thanks! I am new to LoL but not new to dota. I thought I'd try LoL and I ended up using Riven for 2 games (I picked her because her white hair looks kind of cool >__> ). I was a little stunned by the fact that none of her abilities use mana... Anyway, by the look of things, I suppose +attack speed is not too useful on her. Yeah the not having mana is amazing I use her and katarina because I love having no mana | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 29 2012 10:56 MindBreaker wrote: Ugh riven free week is like the worst thing since cass free week. SO MANY IDIOTS STEALIN MY RIVEN!!! Haha, pretty much... worst part is that they alll are terrible at her... I saw one guy rush a warmogs on her. I was speechless. Nothing quite like seeing a Riven with Boots and a 10 minute Warmogs. Apparently solo queue was running out of ways to piss away leads. The amount of times I've heard "Wow, Riven is absolute trash in the late game..." kind of makes me want to cry. Same with the held down Q button, for the love of god please auto attack... please. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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