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Blademage
Profile Joined November 2010
United States128 Posts
January 19 2012 09:55 GMT
#401
Jungle Riven is now forced to wriggles cause of the weaker midgame farm, scince your w does not have as much burst you have to fight for at least 2 autos more so the armor + lifesteal helps.

Double dorans riven jungle is not only unviable and very snowball dependant but farms waaaaaaay weaker. also cause you clear slower with double dorans, you take more damage in jungle. so jungling after ganking is impossible compared to the wriggels which heals you so you can farm and go into another gank, where double dorans would be forced to fountain.
Basics > Legendaries
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
January 25 2012 19:33 GMT
#402
What do I do again Nasus? I try to charge in and stun him when I see him charge his Q but I only end up pushing because Riven goes all herp derp AOE time. I was able to force him to wither me a few times but it just wasn't enough. I've only had the matchup twice so I don't know it too well.
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
January 26 2012 08:30 GMT
#403
Riven should be able to shit on Nasus early. His only source of notable damage is Q. E to block that and you should be able to hit W and every Q unless he withers, in which case he's burning mana which is fine too. You trade with him early then you should be able to zone him from there on out. He can't get close to creeps = no lifesteal and he can't trade with you because of your shield. Just time your aggression better so you don't end up pushing hard or taking too much damage from creeps.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
January 27 2012 00:56 GMT
#404
Do you have a replay I could watch, by chance?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#405
I was going to ask in GD, but remembered the note at the top of the thread (It's working!).

How are people building jungle Riven now, and what starting path do you use? I want to try her in the jungle, but I'm not sure what the best way to play it would be.
you gotta dance
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
January 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#406
On January 27 2012 23:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I was going to ask in GD, but remembered the note at the top of the thread (It's working!).

How are people building jungle Riven now, and what starting path do you use? I want to try her in the jungle, but I'm not sure what the best way to play it would be.


She's a lot weaker now in the jungle, unforunately. Run AD Marks and Quints, pick up a Doran's Blade, get a good leash on red and go BALLS FUCKING DEEP. If someone is out of position with a Riven gank, they are almost certainly going to die or burn summoners. But Lee Sin is a lot better pick for what you're attempting to do.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 15:51:46
January 27 2012 15:49 GMT
#407
On January 27 2012 23:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I was going to ask in GD, but remembered the note at the top of the thread (It's working!).

How are people building jungle Riven now, and what starting path do you use? I want to try her in the jungle, but I'm not sure what the best way to play it would be.


This is how I do it..

Start:
I go cloth5 now, Dorans isn't as good as it used to be.

Build:
Wriggle/boots/BT/GA Core usually IE, LW, or more BT after.

Runes/Masteries:
7Armor pen 2 AD marks, Armor seals, scaling MR glyphs(I intend to play around with AS blues one day to increase clear time, AD quints.

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-2-4-0-1-0-1-0-3-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-3-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

2AD marks because 10% Armor Pen + 18 flat lets out from runes/masteries let you deal true damage to jungle.

Route/Abilities:
I've started going wraiths/red (possible gank here)/golems/wraiths/wolves/blue(possible gank or coutner jungle)/B.

Standard QWE start. R>W>Q>E (Most people like E before Q, I don't think either is "strictly better" with the recent changes)

Tip:
When you get E, open with it into camps and let the mobs knock down your shield before you W. It makes for a much healtier jungle and gives the ability to gank after blue or counter jungle. Otherwise most of your shield's uptime you aren't getting hit because the camp is stunned.

If you Q directly after W you can cancel W's animation.

TL:DR When you get E engage a camp E>AA>Q>AA>W>Q>AA>AA>Q>AA
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:01:59
January 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#408
Why in the world are you taking Havoc and Demolitionist on Riven? Taking the crit masteries is just flat out better and if you really, really don't like the really strong crit masteries for some reason, I would still rather just put 4 points into the cdr mastery. Riven might be a heavy skill reliant champion, but she still relies on her autos a lot for her damage (passive).

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-1-4-0-0-4-1-0-0-1-3-0-3-0-1-0-3-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-2-4-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-3-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 04:25:44
January 28 2012 04:16 GMT
#409
Personal preference. Doesn't matter anyway, crit chance is getting taken out next patch at which point it'll be shifted to the scaling AD.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 13:25:05
January 28 2012 05:17 GMT
#410
All the more reason to not take those terrible masteries.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
January 28 2012 05:23 GMT
#411
Uhm, any reason you're so stressed about this?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
January 28 2012 07:48 GMT
#412
I'm not stressed out about it, but setups are about optimizing to get the best advantage possible. If you give suboptimal setups it's promoting suboptimal play. Just saying. Scaling AD will be a good choice for Riven tho when it's patched in.
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2012 10:02 GMT
#413
If I got the full leveled passive for BT and I have GA, if I die with GA the first time and revive, does the buff disappear too and i have to re-level it?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 29 2012 10:32 GMT
#414
On January 29 2012 19:02 Kouda wrote:
If I got the full leveled passive for BT and I have GA, if I die with GA the first time and revive, does the buff disappear too and i have to re-level it?



As far as i know, no. The same goes for baron buff and blue/red buff
hi
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 29 2012 11:06 GMT
#415
you don't, one of the reasons why its nice with bt
Hey! Listen!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 05 2012 01:14 GMT
#416
So are we still going R>W>E>Q with the changes, or did the change devalue W?
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#417
R > w > q = e
IMO
W still best skill, q is good now too though so I don't ignore it. Something like 2 levels of e, 2 of q etc
Except in lanes that mass e is called for, then r>e>w>q
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
February 05 2012 01:44 GMT
#418
On January 29 2012 19:02 Kouda wrote:
If I got the full leveled passive for BT and I have GA, if I die with GA the first time and revive, does the buff disappear too and i have to re-level it?


I assume you wouldn't since when you die with GA still on, you don't lose buffs / stacks on stuff like mejais.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 02:36:56
February 05 2012 02:34 GMT
#419
On February 05 2012 10:14 Requizen wrote:
So are we still going R>W>E>Q with the changes, or did the change devalue W?


I'm currently trying out RQWE, but I was doing RWQE(Westrice) before that. I never really have an issue either way.

GA saves BT stacks.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 05 2012 02:51 GMT
#420
nbd e is more survivability and mobility (lowered CD and higher base value) which is more useful in lane imo
q is more aoe damage which is nice in teamfights but the difference between a 10 second shield and a 6 second shield is bigger imo

preference and how well your team can peel for you
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