EPT[Champion] Riven - Page 19
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Requizen
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Navi
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w against other melee bruisers tends to work well and is a good starting point for most rivens tho | ||
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Requizen
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Lokrium
United States131 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On the other hand, Swain is a bitch for her, like he is for every other bruiser. Riven has a good chance of getting out of Nevermove, but he'll just throw out birds and walk away, or Ult on your face and lifesteal you away. It's rather annoying. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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deskscaress
United States399 Posts
On December 26 2011 19:11 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Man, how do people play Riven against GP and Monkey? Those are probably the two match-ups where I have no idea what to do, and how to play it out, and always end up losing my lane or feeding. It might just be because I haven't played against them much, but I feel lost whenever I play against them. Any tips? against gangplank, take E at level 1 or 2 instead of 3, then take levels of it until level 5 (skill level 3). E any time he parrrlay's you, preferably toward him so you can trade hits afterwards, assuming you have even or better creeps. after level 5, max W like normal, outfarm him and win lategame. it's a scary matchup at level 1 especially if he gets crits but you'll soon see the power of low-cooldown E will wear him out of mana and make him really easy to deal with | ||
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FuzzyLord
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On December 26 2011 19:11 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Man, how do people play Riven against GP and Monkey? Those are probably the two match-ups where I have no idea what to do, and how to play it out, and always end up losing my lane or feeding. It might just be because I haven't played against them much, but I feel lost whenever I play against them. Any tips? It's like impossible to trade hits with Monkey  . His Q reduces your armor so much that you take like 2x more damage than you deal. | ||
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requiem
United States268 Posts
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Blademage
United States128 Posts
gave credit to navi for the awsome insight. EDIT: Updated Guide after trying out new masteries and more valuable insight from Navi ♥ worked beautifully | ||
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Navi
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for anyone who gets creep aggro on a regular basis in toplane, and thus 100% of the time in jungle, the reduced creep aggro masteries in 1st tier defense are too good to give up. if i was in jungle i'd probably give up 1 point in armor for it, because 2 less damage per hit when you probably get in excess of 50 hits from neutrals in the jungle in just your first clear adds up. i liked your writing, cheers  | ||
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getpicture
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(see item efficiency costs here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CLm220c&key=0AhSzLWU_Cl-NdDFIRFFNeklfY1UyRHQ3b2dLYjhSdHc&hl=en&authkey=CLm220c#gid=0 ) so the build is doran blade, boots of speed, then another 3 dorans. after that get complete your boots with berserkers greaves then get phage. phage is a must because everyone keep running away. so basically its 4 doran blade, berserkers graves and phage after that you can go blood thirsters etc whatever u like get berserkers boots even if they have CC- its game changing because after tens of matches of testing and experimentation, even though riven isn't attack speed reliant, you are able to proc your passive that much faster. wriggles isn't that good because more HP is always better because in the event there's magic damage. try it out guy and let me know, i know it sounds ridiculous | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On December 21 2011 16:06 Navi wrote: ryze and vlad are probably the two people i would go boots + 3 and ignite against 100% of the time because their burst / sustained damage early is not terribly strong (ryze's is not weak but his mana cannot support nonstop harass) but it gets so much stronger with levels / first back items. ryze, after he gets his tear, can always afford to rune prison you when you go in for your combo, and its hard to sustain with wriggles because his q has such a range advantage etc. so you need to dominate him early on and kill him as much as possible. vlad after he gets 7 can harass you at low cd and can pool your ult kill combo so is also a person you want to dominate early. rumble is actually a very hard lane imo if he's good as he is against almost all top laners if he runes and builds correctly. i would probably get cloth5 or a variation of a pot opening (maybe mass pots would be better as his autoattack isn't a significant portion of his harass or damage) anyway just for the sustain because of how rumble functions before his first back (riven can outsustain him before he gets hextech and win by damage trades; whoever gets hextech / vamp or wriggles first will dominate the lane) Could you go a little bit more in depth on "rumble is actually a very hard lane imo if he's good as he is against almost all top laners if he runes and builds correctly" please? I've been playing rumble a lot more recently and I'd like to know which off-beat runes and builds you think are viable in certain matchups. Thanks, and awesome guide btw  | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
On January 07 2012 18:15 getpicture wrote: i found a pretty good cheesy build i found that works godlike in solo queue. after trying all other stuff like wriggles etc, because there are so many bad players in solo queue you go go 4x doran blade. it does sound silly but doran blade is very cost effective. its efficiency gain is 280 gold per doran blade. (see item efficiency costs here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CLm220c&key=0AhSzLWU_Cl-NdDFIRFFNeklfY1UyRHQ3b2dLYjhSdHc&hl=en&authkey=CLm220c#gid=0 ) so the build is doran blade, boots of speed, then another 3 dorans. after that get complete your boots with berserkers greaves then get phage. phage is a must because everyone keep running away. so basically its 4 doran blade, berserkers graves and phage after that you can go blood thirsters etc whatever u like get berserkers boots even if they have CC- its game changing because after tens of matches of testing and experimentation, even though riven isn't attack speed reliant, you are able to proc your passive that much faster. wriggles isn't that good because more HP is always better because in the event there's magic damage. try it out guy and let me know, i know it sounds ridiculous Er. What Elo are you at that this is working so well for you? With Riven, you are almost continuously alternating auto-attacks with abilities - aspd isn't that good and decidedly not worth giving up CC reduction. 4 Doran's blades is just way too much, you delay your big items(for Riven's amazing lategame) too long and you'll be selling them back really soon anyway. | ||
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StrifeCro
United States69 Posts
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StrifeCro
United States69 Posts
On December 26 2011 19:11 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Man, how do people play Riven against GP and Monkey? Those are probably the two match-ups where I have no idea what to do, and how to play it out, and always end up losing my lane or feeding. It might just be because I haven't played against them much, but I feel lost whenever I play against them. Any tips? top lane is mostly about counters, so basicly you would need to open cloth armor 5 pots and use armor yellows and armor quints, so you have around 68 armor at lvl 1, vs gp open e first and something like ewqee at lvl 5 if you are fast enough you can e most of gps parreys and then go straight into boots, wriggles mb even ninja tabi after, monkey is just ez if you have enough armor and build right. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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Two_DoWn
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On January 14 2012 17:02 broz0rs wrote: Riven getting nerfed next patch. Riot doesn't like how players are maxing W first. Is it really a nerf though? It's hard to say without seeing the new numbers, but a big enough damage buff to Q could make riven even more of a beast in the early laning phase | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
On January 15 2012 05:50 Perplex wrote: Is it really a nerf though? It's hard to say without seeing the new numbers, but a big enough damage buff to Q could make riven even more of a beast in the early laning phase Eh, what probably happens is that her Q get like +5 base damage while her W lose 15 or something. | ||
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