EPTanyway, I like the approach riot is taking in terms of leveling for damage vs leveling for cc. Riven's W is really what makes her a gigantic pain since it is such an obvious choice to max for winning your lane. Hard to say without seeing the numbers though.
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petered
United States1817 Posts
anyway, I like the approach riot is taking in terms of leveling for damage vs leveling for cc. Riven's W is really what makes her a gigantic pain since it is such an obvious choice to max for winning your lane. Hard to say without seeing the numbers though. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35127 Posts
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Banishment
Germany102 Posts
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requiem
United States268 Posts
but yeah that's gonna hurt for sure | ||
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HavokTheorem
New Zealand250 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
Also for some reason she always landed way too many autoattacks with W active but i'm not sure why. Whenever i play irelia i get to use 2-3 autos, she hit like 5 per each activation o.o Maybe ms runes... Anyway my question is - how should one play riven vs irelia post 9? | ||
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Craton
United States17239 Posts
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FuzzyLord
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you can't trade with her, then don't. There is absolutely no need for Riven to fight people if you're doing poorly in lane, because you can just farm, and crush her lategame because farm is worth more on Riven than almost anyone else. That's the real power of Riven. It's not just that she's an insanely strong lane bully early--lots of laners can do that--but the fact that even if she runs into a matchup where she can't bully that hard, she can fall back on the fact that her potential late-game outscales anyone not named Tryndamere, Jax, or Nasus. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 16 2012 07:40 Craton wrote: Camp Irelia early with jungler and you'll dominate her later. And this explains why it's that much harder to lose a lane vs irelia in arranged 5s  | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
(Even though I think Riven kinda needed it, she was too hard in toplane). The damage they added to Q seems not enough to warrant a change from the current skillorder, or what do you guys think? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Navi
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Navi
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q will have more damage per sec at all stages of the game, but consistently using your q sets up a pattern of predictability for ganks as well as being less likely to have e and w to escape from ganks as well as forcing you to commit to trades. everything in this game is risk reward, and if you feel if the reward from leveling any of her skills outweighs the respective risks (weaker in teamfights, easier to gank, more predictable, less mobile, less cc, etc.) then go ahead and do so. regardless of what you level you should be fine in most lanes, and in some lanes some skills are better than others, as might be obvious to some enemy laners whose mana you can drain or burst damage dealers who aim to get you low enough to dive in for the kill by maxing E and , as well as maxing w for enemies who have to bring the fight to you to win the lane (i.e. they dont want to trade farm with you) and/or are extremely mobile yet come into melee range to deal damage (renek & lee come to mind) or q versus those who typical w max builds come dangerously even in early fights yet are winnable if you had a little more oomph early (rumble) or those who you want to shut down early for fear of similar or stronger scaling in lane at least (trynda with wriggles is even harder to kill in lane than riven for similar mobility and cc and scales well into lategame). if you go with the last option you're kind of all in, and probably would want to run at least 1 of heal or ignite if you're planning on doing so. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
 Shit's scary. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 18 2012 06:10 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: I just saw a really good ezrael carry my team. He solos a 1v2 lane vs cait and shyvana, and I only saw him miss 1 q. Got two double kills on them Shit's scary. Wrong thread? | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
On January 18 2012 01:00 Requizen wrote: Probably not. Once you start getting some AD items (basically just Wriggle's and BT), the difference in damage will become pretty minimal, it's more or less just a nerf to her early game stomping. Now it'll be more of a beating instead. That's kinda what I meant, lategame it will be pretty neglectable. | ||
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