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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 05 2012 21:11 GMT
#661
Smash mentioned using HSS to zone people off your carry, along with your W to peel. If I remember well, a full HSS with 2 BTs + LW is along the lines of 1200-1300 physical damage, which is a lot if you can hit several people with it. But don't go out of your way to pull it off since you're still kinda squishy.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
April 05 2012 22:49 GMT
#662
Buy a GA and go in like xin zhao bot
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
April 05 2012 22:53 GMT
#663
Can someone explain to me the wu kong pantheon match up?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 05 2012 23:08 GMT
#664
Hit him in the face with your spear and block his stick with your shield. It's really easy.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 06 2012 01:36 GMT
#665
On April 06 2012 07:53 HeroHenry wrote:
Can someone explain to me the wu kong pantheon match up?

the only thing that really hurts in top vs wukong i think is his Q which u can just block by spamming spears

his e dash is okay but then u just WQ and auto attack him and you probably come out on top
RIP Aaliyah
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
April 06 2012 06:16 GMT
#666
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noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
April 06 2012 20:54 GMT
#667
If he wants to not come out behind in health when trading with you he's going to oom himself a LOT faster than you will.

You should really just play it like any other lane. I've only recently picked up Pantheon, but it's definitely one of the easiest matchups to play for me. Do the smashgizmo thang, try to duel him at level 1, he'll either run away and lose health, or he'll try to fight you, lose the fight because of blocks, and then run away and take another spear. Thanks to the HSS passive, you have a lot of lifesteal from just one dblade.

If he wants to E>auto>Q>W away, he's going to run out of mana way faster than you will with just spears. If he E's you with shield up, you can wait for the auto, immediately W to block the Q if he doesn't turn around immediately after the stun, and then just auto attack him as he runs away with his stupid monkey tail between his legs. The shield really just ruins Wukong's day.

I'm far from good, but Wukong is still countless miles away from being a threat to the Mantheon.
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 07 2012 15:59 GMT
#668
Hey smash, will the doran opening still be good after the next patch? Or would you go something else? (obviously talking of scenarios where the other jungler is scary enough early that you need to open boots+3)
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2012 19:31 GMT
#669
uhhh, what makes it different after next patch?
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 19:36:53
April 09 2012 19:35 GMT
#670
Hey smash, will the doran opening still be good after the next patch? Or would you go something else? (obviously talking of scenarios where the other jungler is scary enough early that you need to open boots+3)

-20 hp on it = you lose a buffer of about 1/2 minion attacks when playing aggressively, but that's about it?
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 20:09:49
April 09 2012 20:08 GMT
#671
On April 10 2012 04:35 GARO wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hey smash, will the doran opening still be good after the next patch? Or would you go something else? (obviously talking of scenarios where the other jungler is scary enough early that you need to open boots+3)

-20 hp on it = you lose a buffer of about 1/2 minion attacks when playing aggressively, but that's about it?

on the surface it seems pretty trivial yeah, but I still can't help but think of the number of times I've got first blood while surviving with barely any HP. There doesnt seem to be much room for mistakes when you do blade vs a cloth+5pot opening. makes me wonder if I should just do pot opening myself and get those blades later.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 09 2012 23:33 GMT
#672
Well boots+3 openings are already really strong in most cases since the mobility is great for avoiding ganks. Dblades are still going to be very core on Panth but you'll probably want to pick them up later.
Strykemard
Profile Joined April 2012
168 Posts
April 12 2012 03:50 GMT
#673
On April 10 2012 05:08 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 04:35 GARO wrote:
Hey smash, will the doran opening still be good after the next patch? Or would you go something else? (obviously talking of scenarios where the other jungler is scary enough early that you need to open boots+3)

-20 hp on it = you lose a buffer of about 1/2 minion attacks when playing aggressively, but that's about it?

on the surface it seems pretty trivial yeah, but I still can't help but think of the number of times I've got first blood while surviving with barely any HP. There doesnt seem to be much room for mistakes when you do blade vs a cloth+5pot opening. makes me wonder if I should just do pot opening myself and get those blades later.


I wouldnt recommend it. Either start boots and pots and maybe get 2 dorans later, or just start with dorans. If you go cloth pots then dorans then boots, you'll be delaying your core too much.
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
April 14 2012 14:16 GMT
#674
I got to experience Panth vs Malphite the other day. Boy was that an absolutely miserable experience for me.

Smash how do you feel about getting phage after brutalizer but before BT? I've been messing around with 1-2 dorans --> Bruta --> Phage with great success recently. I almost never upgrade it unless I'm like at max items, but I've found that it gives me a good balance of offense and some increased survivibility which I feel like Panth needs to survive mid-game teamfights and skirmishes.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 02:24:16
April 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#675
I've been trying out bilgewater cutlass on panth. it's good when you don't run exhaust and gives you that little edge you need to really be a ganking beast midgame, the only problem is you dont wanna build gunblade later and i just end up selling it to finish my frozen mallet or atmas
RIP Aaliyah
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 15 2012 02:31 GMT
#676
anyone else jungle panth? he clears really fast and safely.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 15 2012 02:31 GMT
#677
On April 15 2012 11:31 PrinceXizor wrote:
anyone else jungle panth? he clears really fast and safely.

i jungle panth a lot but he clears pretty slow imo
RIP Aaliyah
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 15 2012 02:51 GMT
#678
On April 15 2012 11:31 PrinceXizor wrote:
anyone else jungle panth? he clears really fast and safely.

u jungle panth for his ganks. not for his clears.
his early ganks are super strong and once you hit lvl 6 you can almost always secure a kill at bot lane assuming they're not completely pushed.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 16 2012 15:35 GMT
#679
On April 14 2012 23:16 Lancer723 wrote:
I got to experience Panth vs Malphite the other day. Boy was that an absolutely miserable experience for me.

Smash how do you feel about getting phage after brutalizer but before BT? I've been messing around with 1-2 dorans --> Bruta --> Phage with great success recently. I almost never upgrade it unless I'm like at max items, but I've found that it gives me a good balance of offense and some increased survivibility which I feel like Panth needs to survive mid-game teamfights and skirmishes.

I would only do phage before BF if I went zerker greaves in lane.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HughMyron
Profile Joined April 2012
297 Posts
April 17 2012 19:25 GMT
#680
I apologize if people have discussed this before, but what midlane matchups does Panth lose to besides Kennen/Post-9 Vlad? I know he can beat Morgana with intelligent play, but it's pretty hard. Cassieopeia can also zone you off the creep wave IIRC.
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