EPT[Champion] Xin Zhao - Page 3
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UniversalSnip
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Slayer91
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UniversalSnip
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Juicyfruit
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UniversalSnip
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step 1 buy longsword step 2 gank step 3 at your next shop or whenever you want or never, buy doran's blade I just don't see any reason to start with the blade instead of picking it up later | ||
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HazMat
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
On August 11 2011 03:46 UniversalSnip wrote: what I'm suggesting step 1 buy longsword step 2 gank step 3 at your next shop or whenever you want or never, buy doran's blade I just don't see any reason to start with the blade instead of picking it up later You save a health potion when you are only clearing small camps anyway. | ||
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57 Corvette
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
dblade lifesteals 3% off of ~80 damage/hit = 2.4/hit meaning that you only need about 41 hits before the lifesteal and base HP from dblade overtake the 200 hp you get from a potion and meanwhile you haven't wasted money on a potion. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 11 2011 08:13 Mogwai wrote: buy longsword + pot means getting a pot, which is flushing 35 gold down the toilet dblade lifesteals 3% off of ~80 damage/hit = 2.4/hit meaning that you only need about 41 hits before the lifesteal and base HP from dblade overtake the 200 hp you get from a potion and meanwhile you haven't wasted money on a potion. The pot is an investment in flexibility/security. Suppose you get counterganked by their jungler after their blue on your way out from your level 2 gank. Or you just take a fair bit of damage in the level 2 gank. If you get low enough, you can't risk continuing your jungle, but if you have a pot, you can simply continue. The DBlade EVENTUALLY catches up to the pot's healing, but that's the same in lane--you use pots because it takes too long for the eventual regen/lifesteal to get your HP back up to safe levels and you'll lose too much time otherwise. Xin normally has the sustainability to not need to worry about that, but level 2 wraiths without smite and with QE seems like probably the most annoying camp for Xin in his first rounds through the jungle. | ||
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Chrispy
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 10 2011 18:19 cascades wrote: My experience starting at blue is not the case. You using AS runes and all 5 pots? AS Quints/Marks, 21/0/9 and using all pots if it's clear that mid or the nearby lane is in a good ganking position. Otherwise I can cut a couple pots and recall before Red. My point is really that whatever your setup, waiting to gank until 7ish minutes is a waste when jungling as Xin. If you're going to do that you really should pick a different jungler with a stronger level 6 gank/better late game. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
So I've been going like EQEW, then R>E>Q>W | ||
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STS17
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Mogwai
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On August 12 2011 04:47 Mogwai wrote: QEWQQR R > Q > E > W <3 | ||
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R04R
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
edit: yeah I had nothing to add to the discussion sorry  | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 11 2011 09:13 Chrispy wrote: Eh I wouldn't advocate going D-blade. If you're going to be ganking a lot just get boots + 3 pots. :$ Early game movespeed is the best. This is actually like, really smart. FUCK, Chrispy so good, gonna try this. On August 12 2011 07:12 R04R wrote: Prioritizing E over Q increases your frontload burst and increases the slow % from E. Why wouldn't you get more levels of E after 1 level of Q? Having level 5 E at 9 pretty much makes you a burst caster, which is a good thing to have, not a bad thing. Your jungling might be slower because E costs lots of mana, but your ganks are real terror. After 3 hits, extra levels in E have less damage than extra levels in Q, not even counting the fact that E does magic rather than physical damage (and you should be specced for armor pen). I dunno, I guess this makes some sense for the slow duration, but I think it would really hurt your pre-wriggles jungling speed. Maybe QEWQQREEEER for first 11 levels? | ||
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