• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:18
CET 19:18
KST 03:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1313 users

[Champion] Caitlyn - Page 7

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 23 2011 18:03 GMT
#121
On September 24 2011 02:36 HazMat wrote:
Some cool trick I saw some Cait do that I've never seen before.
Put 3 traps at the enemy wraiths. Can usually slow down some junglers, just don't do it vs Noct ^^


lol, we once had Cait drop trap on wraith bush while I did my red buff WW start ambush shenanigan, while Turkey sat there waiting for him as Zil.

So BM.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
September 23 2011 18:09 GMT
#122
LOL will do that some time
cool beans
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 23 2011 18:33 GMT
#123
On September 24 2011 03:03 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 02:36 HazMat wrote:
Some cool trick I saw some Cait do that I've never seen before.
Put 3 traps at the enemy wraiths. Can usually slow down some junglers, just don't do it vs Noct ^^


lol, we once had Cait drop trap on wraith bush while I did my red buff WW start ambush shenanigan, while Turkey sat there waiting for him as Zil.

So BM.


Cait trap in wraith brush + heimer turret outside the brush but outside of wraith range is brutal too, quick set-up and fucks up every jungler that starts at blue. If you know they're at golems you put the heimer turret on the other side of the brush instead of wraith-side
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 01 2011 03:26 GMT
#124
Concerning tertiary items: after BT and PD, I usually pick between a LW for arpen or IE for damage if no armor. Lately I've been thinking of getting a Cleaver for both and a bit of attack speed. Is this suboptimal?
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 02 2011 22:25 GMT
#125
On October 01 2011 12:26 Requizen wrote:
Concerning tertiary items: after BT and PD, I usually pick between a LW for arpen or IE for damage if no armor. Lately I've been thinking of getting a Cleaver for both and a bit of attack speed. Is this suboptimal?

100% situational. Cleaver's armor pen is most effective on squishies with low to mediocre armor. LW's armor pen is most effective on beasts that are stacking armor.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
October 02 2011 22:49 GMT
#126
On October 01 2011 12:26 Requizen wrote:
Concerning tertiary items: after BT and PD, I usually pick between a LW for arpen or IE for damage if no armor. Lately I've been thinking of getting a Cleaver for both and a bit of attack speed. Is this suboptimal?


Also if there other AD champs in your team BC becomes even better since they do more damage too, i like to get BC most of the time since i like to focus low hp-armor ppl and not tanks XD
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
October 02 2011 22:59 GMT
#127
On October 03 2011 07:25 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 12:26 Requizen wrote:
Concerning tertiary items: after BT and PD, I usually pick between a LW for arpen or IE for damage if no armor. Lately I've been thinking of getting a Cleaver for both and a bit of attack speed. Is this suboptimal?

100% situational. Cleaver's armor pen is most effective on squishies with low to mediocre armor. LW's armor pen is most effective on beasts that are stacking armor.

By the time you start building your third item (usually between 25-30 minutes if you don't get a BV/QSS first) most people already have too much armour for BC to be at its best and it only gets worse as the game goes on.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2011 18:20 GMT
#128
Thanks for responses, just one more. After that (and this is end-game, probably never build it type stuff), but do you go for a defensive item? I feel that BT gives enough sustain, but I rarely get a game that goes that long and allows for enough farm.
It's your boy Guzma!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:20:57
October 03 2011 20:18 GMT
#129
On October 04 2011 03:20 Requizen wrote:
Thanks for responses, just one more. After that (and this is end-game, probably never build it type stuff), but do you go for a defensive item? I feel that BT gives enough sustain, but I rarely get a game that goes that long and allows for enough farm.

BF sword item, PD, LW+ boots is generally your 4 core damage/movement slots. I'd generally look at how you're dying and get a negatron or chainmail post zeal before finishing the PD, especially if you start strong and get a charged BT or IE before 20 minutes.

QSS/LW timing on cait is usually very important, given that she's a huge chunk of deadweight if she's dead or can't do any damage to the people in range of her.

So no, its never an end-game thing. Its generally a midgame thing. Going 100% damage doesn't work unless your support/peeling crew is top notch and you have time to trap up the fight area, which you often don't. I'd only go the 100% deeps route if I was kog and they didn't have a ridiculous gap closer.

Edit: Do you mean an additional 6th defensive item to close our your build? I'd generally get another PD and abuse traps + movement as my defense if I already had QSS and I wasn't getting 100->0 bursted.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#130
Well I did mean the 6th, build closing item, but you bring up a good point. I'm still newish, so I do often "blind build" and just go DBlade > Boots > BFS > Zeal > etc without responding. When do you think it's necessary to grab a defensive item? I generally feel safe with 2/3 DBlades, but maybe the Negatron or Chain is nice. Then just hold on to them until you can build them into something better later? Will just those be enough to keep one alive through the mid-game?
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:50:35
October 03 2011 21:49 GMT
#131
On October 04 2011 06:46 Requizen wrote:
Well I did mean the 6th, build closing item, but you bring up a good point. I'm still newish, so I do often "blind build" and just go DBlade > Boots > BFS > Zeal > etc without responding. When do you think it's necessary to grab a defensive item? I generally feel safe with 2/3 DBlades, but maybe the Negatron or Chain is nice. Then just hold on to them until you can build them into something better later? Will just those be enough to keep one alive through the mid-game?

You can't cookie-cutter your defensive item selection. How much defense you need depends on what kind of diving power the opposing team has, what dangerous spells they have that you have to be wary about, how farmed the enemy carries are compared to you, etc.

Sometimes you don't buy defense till after 3 damage items. Sometimes you need QSS right after your IE is finished. You have to get a feel for what different champions can do, and how much defense you need against them.
Moderator
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#132
Read on Reddit that Candy Panda plays Cait with Arpen red, AD yellow, AS blue, AD quints.

Schwa? I guess if you really want to just crush early on and dominate lane, but there's no defense there at all. I missed his build, did he get Wriggles or something to make up for it?
It's your boy Guzma!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 16 2011 21:23 GMT
#133
vs most ADs you should get way more autos in on them than they can get on you
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
17:00
WWG Masters Showdown
SteadfastSC58
Liquipedia
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Championship Sunday
SHIN vs ClassicLIVE!
WardiTV2804
ComeBackTV 1357
TaKeTV 701
Rex128
CosmosSc2 99
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 128
ProTech120
CosmosSc2 99
SKillous 66
SteadfastSC 58
BRAT_OK 42
MindelVK 15
DivinesiaTV 15
trigger 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3001
Shuttle 588
Light 269
hero 110
Mini 108
firebathero 102
Hyun 101
Dewaltoss 81
ggaemo 64
910 31
[ Show more ]
yabsab 20
soO 19
Terrorterran 18
Killer 15
HiyA 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7079
singsing3408
qojqva2754
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1471
fl0m712
chrisJcsgo43
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor707
Liquid`Hasu463
Other Games
FrodaN1171
Beastyqt494
B2W.Neo339
KnowMe268
ToD236
ArmadaUGS197
Liquid`VortiX145
mouzStarbuck142
Mew2King88
QueenE87
Organizations
Other Games
PGL1619
gamesdonequick556
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 26
• StrangeGG 26
• Adnapsc2 8
• Reevou 3
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV239
• HappyZerGling62
Other Games
• imaqtpie505
• Shiphtur190
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
1h 42m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
14h 42m
Wardi Open
17h 42m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 42m
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.