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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
I'll give not using the Mpen mastery a shot. Everything I use is build around that atm, maybe that's what I'm doing wrong. I kinda keep assuming he's like Corki/Trist who both LOVE the mpen mastery. Hurpdurp. You build BR too, right brees? And you feel that you're raping tanks anyway, also true? :> | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Doesn't matter what you build when your ahead of their carry but I usually go wits end/greaves/BR/veil/triforce in that order | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 03 2011 04:29 Brees wrote: I build him as a laner. Do whatever it takes to absolutely crush your lane. The only ad carry he has trouble with is caitlyn since she can contend in range, rest of carries you can deny easily Then why do you go 21 utility lol Basically the only thing in utility that really helps you in lane is the movespeed mastery. There's a reason why everyone switched to 21 offense on ranged ADs by now. The utility tree is suffering from a lack of earlygame strength. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
also the mana regen, cd, movespeed is all useful as well as the very important full buff duration timer. good hands is pretty legit too since I usually play him as a walking turret meaning I dont run from shit. Just output as much damage as possible then die then passive ---> repeat | ||
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Liquidspoison
United Kingdom119 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Brees: I keep having the feeling you're doing something else than me. Like, something major. Got some replays? Doesn't have to be huge, just some support ad vs support ad with a solid laning phase mostly. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On September 02 2011 22:23 phyvo wrote: I personally am not sold on Manamune/gunblade yet. Jiji did run manamune in tourney though so I do have to take it more seriously. Gunblade, on the other hand.... maybe later in the game, but if you're rushing it before your second "big" item you're grabbing a little lifesteal when you could be killing crap twice as fast. As for solo top Kog I'll defer to spine. I really haven't found a way of making it work unless you get lucky and the lane is retarded or some weird crap like Mundo. Most of the bruisers up top have dashes, sustainability, and do craptons of harass at the same time. In mid you can actually lane pretty well vs Annie but I haven't been successful vs stronger mids like Brand yet. Kog is jokes top. You can swing to contest blue safely with your jungler due to your ult and you can pretend to be sion by maxing e and 2 shotting the lane with r e. Alternatively you can just vomit E at your opponent, and if he gets hit and you aimed properly, you're looking at 2-3 free w powered hits. Q is a pile of crap so don't get it. Just trade properly and abuse the bushes and your range to create huge threat zones for your opponent. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Q + Exhaust + W => Who said melee > ranged after the gap has been closed? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:01 gosuMalicE wrote: This is probably a retarded question but does mpen affect the bonus magic damage done by MB and W? I assumed so but one of my friends told me it doesn't and I'm not sure if he was trolling me or not... Your MPen applies to all Magic Damage you do, regardless of the source. So any item/autoattack/spell that does Magic Damage will run off your MPen stat. The same applies for any Physical Damage you do, but with respect to APen. | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:10 MoonBear wrote: Your MPen applies to all Magic Damage you do, regardless of the source. So any item/autoattack/spell that does Magic Damage will run off your MPen stat. The same applies for any Physical Damage you do, but with respect to APen. See that's what I thought, now I don't feel like such an asshole for arguing the point with him. Also I'm running Attack speed Quints, Apen marks and Mpen glyphs/seals. my skill priority is W>R>E>Q I open boots +3 health pots My core Item build is sorc shoes -> recurve bow -> MB -> BF sword -> BC After that I get survivability if its needed, and prioritize attack speed in my last items PD/IE if I can afford it, Malady/Wits End otherwise. I seem to dominate every game I play building like this but I'm only level 26 so I'm sure that will change when I can play ranked games. If there is anything glaringly wrong with my build let me know. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On September 25 2011 08:14 gosuMalicE wrote: See that's what I thought, now I don't feel like such an asshole for arguing the point with him. Also I'm running Attack speed Quints, Apen marks and Mpen glyphs/seals. my skill priority is W>R>E>Q I open boots +3 health pots My core Item build is sorc shoes -> recurve bow -> MB -> BF sword -> BC After that I get survivability if its needed, and prioritize attack speed in my last items PD/IE if I can afford it, Malady/Wits End otherwise. I seem to dominate every game I play building like this but I'm only level 26 so I'm sure that will change when I can play ranked games. If there is anything glaringly wrong with my build let me know. At ranked games people knows how to jump on carries. Kog blows at low elo because no one knows how to support the guy proper. | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
On September 25 2011 09:38 O-ops wrote: At ranked games people knows how to jump on carries. Kog blows at low elo because no one knows how to support the guy proper. Well I know that, Its not like kog is the only hero i can use well either, I was just asking about the viability of my build, and your post didn't really respond to that. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
On September 25 2011 10:46 TieN.nS) wrote: Standard AD item is best build on Kog IMO since ult has .5 AD ratio and you can kill towers faster etc. zulu_nation8 posted the items I'd agree are best for that. But on-hit effect build is fine too. It's a waste to go both arpen and mpen, just stack arpen quint/reds and run attack speed in yellow/blues if you don't feel like you need defensive runes (which you do, but if you prefer not to...). Sorc shoes is kind of dumb since MBR is there for killing tanks, and you won't be doing anywhere near true damage to them anyway; get merc treads or zerker greaves instead. If getting MBR, you should follow with phage into frozen mallet for the hp and obviously the slow proc. Thanks for the advice, I will try that out. I skip the defensive runes because IMO if you are getting hit as kog the battle is already over, but If I did use them what do you suggest? Just flat armor/mres for yellow/blue slots? Also should i get the phage before the Black cleaver? It really feels like I cant do enough damage unless I grab that early BF sword. | ||
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