EPT[Champion] Kog'Maw - Page 15
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
~5-7% health + base damage on kogmaw's ultimate is actually pretty massive. I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing him again in competitive play. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
Also, is the same effect on the item "Blade of the Ruined King" affected by resistances? Or will you really damage 11% of opponents health when you've maxed your W + regular damage? | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On February 17 2013 17:53 TigerKarl wrote: I've just bought this hero. What i've been wondering is if the damage based on targets max health on his W spell is somehow affected by resistances? Also, is the same effect on the item "Blade of the Ruined King" affected by resistances? Or will you really damage 11% of opponents health when you've maxed your W + regular damage? both kog'maw's W and botrk's passive are magic damage and are reduced by magic resistance. I have no idea how the reduction of % works, but since 100 MR = 2x EHP I'd guess that if you have 100 MR and Kog'maw 0 MPen that he does only half the %dmg. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
On February 18 2013 01:38 Keniji wrote: both kog'maw's W and botrk's passive are magic damage and are reduced by magic resistance. I have no idea how the reduction of % works, but since 100 MR = 2x EHP I'd guess that if you have 100 MR and Kog'maw 0 MPen that he does only half the %dmg. Kogs w is magical damage bortk's passive is physical. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
with the lucian nerfs i think he's up there with jax and kayle as the strongest hypercarries in the game. | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
That said, I'm not sold on essence reaver at all, although I didn't try it. The Dblade into Triforce into BorK build seems like the strongest option atm. Need to try Essence reaver for myself, but the relative slot inefficiency of the item makes it a bit strange on a lategame hypercarry like Kog. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
I'm not entirely sold on essence reaver, but I guess Kog probably sits and autos quite a bit, especially if there's down time. | ||
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
literally botrk tri force makes him impossible to deal with doing the essense reaver makes it so you don't ever have to leave lane/team fights its crazy for him imo | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Also, I almost never encounter mana issues. The real decision for me is sometimes I feel like Zerkers are suboptimal (which I feel about for ADCs all the time), but I can never figure out until I already bought them. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
On June 25 2014 17:39 AsianEcksDragon wrote: Essence Reaver is terrible on Kog. He doesn't have mana problem unless you spam ult with him. "essence reaver is terrible on kog, he doesn't have mana problems unless you play him right" ;| | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On July 04 2014 01:16 GreggSauce wrote: "essence reaver is terrible on kog, he doesn't have mana problems unless you play him right" ;| bold statement I dont see much of a reason to build essence reaver on him as well. I hardly use the ult outside of a fight or for checking brushes and maybe a little bit of poking. If you constantly use it to waveclear you might need it due to mana problems but i have personally never gone oom on kog without essence. The mana from trinity and smart ulti management is more than enough to fight. Also i dont see why you would want to delay bork for essence reaver. Having a bork is a lot better than having an essence reaver and delaying your bork for some mana and Cdr....doesnt sound very good. Bork+triforce is a huge spike on kog On June 25 2014 13:24 cLutZ wrote: I also don't like essence Reaver. Early on I prefer Blade and Tri, later, LW and IE are indispensable. Also, I almost never encounter mana issues. The real decision for me is sometimes I feel like Zerkers are suboptimal (which I feel about for ADCs all the time), but I can never figure out until I already bought them. Been thinking about trying CDR boots or merc treads on kog. More W uptime can be pretty sexy and CC is pretty annoying altho you could argue that if you are out of position to get hard cced you are pretty dead anyway as kog Any experience on that? | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
bam lee, lucidity works pretty good, merc don't really help, you'd be better off getting the fast boots, if kog gets caught he's dead most of the time. On July 04 2014 05:08 Anakko wrote: Agreed. AD Kog uses ult mostly to proc Triforce/check bushes. If you're spamming it, you might as well play AP kog and build tear instead like i said... and what you're saying...if you cast his ult when its off cd it will proc everything... you should therefore....cast...it...the...entire...time | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On July 04 2014 09:00 GreggSauce wrote: essense got buffed more but I stopped playing him recently, need to try again, having too much fun with other champs. your ult should be cast everytime its off cooldown though in my opinion, it really ruins your opponents games. bam lee, lucidity works pretty good, merc don't really help, you'd be better off getting the fast boots, if kog gets caught he's dead most of the time. like i said... and what you're saying...if you cast his ult when its off cd it will proc everything... you should therefore....cast...it...the...entire...time when do you usually buy the essence reaver? First item or after triforce? I think i will give essence reaver+CDR boots a try to see if the 25% CDR are good and to take a look at the mana management. | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
Building 25% cdr on an ADC from first two items seems weird. The ADC you are laning against will have far stronger combat stats. I dunno thought I guess it worked on EZ for a while... | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
On July 04 2014 09:00 GreggSauce wrote: like i said... and what you're saying...if you cast his ult when its off cd it will proc everything... you should therefore....cast...it...the...entire...time Triforce proc has a 2 sec cd, you probably won't need to proc it more than 3/4 times a fight, and you still have your q and your e. It's not like you're gonna be able to ult/proc 10 times in a row. Essence reaver is not a good item on an hypercarry that needs attack speed and crit mostly. It's not exactly terrible, but there are simply better options. | ||
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