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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
May 01 2011 11:54 GMT
#141
LOL yea its insanely retarded. And then when you get Atmas later, the HP from Warmogs really helps.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
May 01 2011 14:28 GMT
#142
On May 01 2011 18:58 r.Evo wrote:
I just jungled Jarman with my olaf runes by accident (Arpen Reds/Quints, Armor, Mres/Level). 16 0 14 masteries.

While I had to go back before red after the first clear I hit like a TRUCK when ganking.
-> Wriggles -> Bruta -> Triforce.


These are my exact runes normally. With 0/21/9 you clear jungle in 3:40 and still have ~500 hp to gank.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 16:11:48
May 01 2011 16:11 GMT
#143
how do you do that ~~

i do something like 16/3 (armor) /11 , my runes are attackspeed reds, apen quints with armor yellows, and almost never finish the jungle in 3:40, its close to 4:00 usually, and my hp is really low after that

whats your skill order? i go E Q E

i will try 0 21 9
And all is illuminated.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 16:18:39
May 01 2011 16:15 GMT
#144
Get your team to help dps blue until ~600, it shaves a solid 10 seconds off the run

There's also some tricks to maximizing damage like e(wait)q on wraiths to nearly one shot the camp

EQE

edit: Dancing your passive speeds runs up
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 01 2011 16:51 GMT
#145
kk i will run some tests in custom game mode
And all is illuminated.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 02 2011 16:55 GMT
#146
0/21/9 sounds gross to me but I will test none the less tonight.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 02 2011 17:16 GMT
#147
tried it but i dont get it how you go 3:40 i got 4:10 without attackspeed runes 0 21 9

And all is illuminated.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 02 2011 17:22 GMT
#148
I believe with no help that my 21/0/9 speed is ~3:45 (with help it's about 3:40, slightly less). But it's too low to gank without backing for boots first. I don't actually mind this since I like having boots before ganking and I like my gank threat to be everywhere rather than just top/bot depending on purple/blue. Meh, maybe I'll do some optimization tests tonight.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
May 02 2011 17:50 GMT
#149
On May 03 2011 02:22 Mogwai wrote:
Meh, maybe I'll do some optimization tests tonight.


Anyway you could record or stream your testings?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#150
uh, I guess I could stream them, it seems like a silly thing to stream to me, but if you really want me to I can :p.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 02 2011 20:39 GMT
#151
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=922

KriticalKill's guide on solomid. I am reading through it now, although I doubt it stands up to the Jarmandar.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#152
god, his build is so bad, I fucking hate it so much.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 02 2011 23:11 GMT
#153
3:34 with 118 hp with no leash with Armor Pen Marks and Quints, Armor Seals, MRes/Level Glyphs, 1 AD Quint, and 21/0/9 masteries. I think I shaved maybe 1-2 seconds with some super pro crits.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 23:32:26
May 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#154
Attack Speed on the Blues seems to have no real effect on the route.

Attack Damage speeds up if you start Golem, but has no effect if you take big wolf first.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 02 2011 23:55 GMT
#155
On May 03 2011 08:11 Mogwai wrote:
3:34 with 118 hp with no leash with Armor Pen Marks and Quints, Armor Seals, MRes/Level Glyphs, 1 AD Quint, and 21/0/9 masteries. I think I shaved maybe 1-2 seconds with some super pro crits.


HOW. DO . YOU. DO . IT.

no leash? jesus christ. Did you use Q E Q as in the guide?
also do you change targets to use your passive? i tried that but it wasnt really worth it.
do you ever knock up the monsters?
And all is illuminated.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 03 2011 16:48 GMT
#156
yea, you just gotta get double knockups off of each flag after blue. When doing this though, EQQ. QEQ better with a leash, but without a leash you get more out of the armor.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 04 2011 08:14 GMT
#157
Solo top vs Malph.

"Okay, easy lane lets try that warmogs rush thing."
-> Philo -> HoG -> Boots -> Warmogs
"Oh, guess I'm our main tank. FML."
-> Negatron -> Chainmail.
"Awww, fuck, carries suck.. need... to.... DEMACIAAAA..."
---> Atmas
"Can't... keep.... up...."
------> PD
"D E M A C I A A A A A A . . . . . . !!!"
--------> Bloodthirster/Banshees.

The end.

(I like banshees more than FoN when I don't really need the movespeed. Is the regen from FoN still superior to the increased health+spellblock?)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 04 2011 10:45 GMT
#158
Jarman is currently the most OP champ in the game, does anyone else agree with this?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 04 2011 10:47 GMT
#159
Also yeah i basically always start with E on him when I'm jungling, i've never tried q first. is it worth it?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 04 2011 12:30 GMT
#160
I have never seen a champ that can 1v3 towerdive, come out with 75% health and a penta kill (because the silly teammates tried to come help, vs a jarman lol how foolish).
Ok maybe I exaggerate slightly, but good thing not many people at my shit elo realize how OP he is yet, time to make my duo partner abuse for elo gain huehue
:)
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