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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
April 19 2011 20:59 GMT
#101
damn you all I'm buying jarman nao
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 19 2011 21:01 GMT
#102
He's a gud buy. derp
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:06 GMT
#103
he's insanely strong and Riot hasn't even hinted at nerfing him yet, LOL.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 19 2011 21:08 GMT
#104
HoG nerf hurt him hard. What you talking about willis.

But seriously, Jarman is what most "tanky dps" should be like. Renek is/was too strong. Gragas too weak.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#105
HoG nerf hit him less hard than most IMO. I hate saying this cause I know it makes me sound like an enormous scrub, but seriously the top elo guys saying that HoG stack was the correct way to play Jarman were being extremely narrow minded.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 19 2011 21:14 GMT
#106
Well, he has passive armor, so of course it doesn't hurt him as much. But still, he's obviously less tanky now than last patch.

I still liked the double HoG into Triforce. I usually built Atma right after. Dat armor, Smash.

Anyways, he's in a good place right now imoimo.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 19 2011 21:15 GMT
#107
wriggles into triforce is actually the right build, who cares about HoGs?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 19 2011 21:17 GMT
#108
Wiggle's now obv. zz

I miss my HoGs, fu Shikyo noob.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 19 2011 21:17 GMT
#109
To be honest, I just get Aegis and then I don't give a fuck who's in my lane. I can pretty much ignore them and just farm.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:19 GMT
#110
On April 20 2011 06:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
Well, he has passive armor, so of course it doesn't hurt him as much. But still, he's obviously less tanky now than last patch.

I still liked the double HoG into Triforce. I usually built Atma right after. Dat armor, Smash.

Anyways, he's in a good place right now imoimo.

Alternately, I never built more than 1 HoG anyway, so now I just get my funfire faster if I'm straight tanking out.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#111
I dislike Aegis since forever. Haven't really liked Sunfire since nonstacking. Need armor? Go atma!
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#112
On April 20 2011 06:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Wiggle's now obv. zz

I miss my HoGs, fu Shikyo noob.

Wriggle's nerf hit harder, lol. I actually get wriggles less now than before, as I just rush aegis a lot now.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 21:23:09
April 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#113
dat Aegis... just seems to drop off after 20 mins into game. >_> Rather just go a high tier item. ;_;

Edit: When I come back next week, I'll try opening Aegis again, now that HoG and Wiggle open so shitty.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:30 GMT
#114
between Aegis and standard you give your whole team a chain vest + null magic mantle + long sword. seems pretty good to me.

not to mention it's a solid early game cover-all-your-bases tank item. both resistances + HP is pretty cool.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 19 2011 21:45 GMT
#115
Aegis is always good as long as you're giving your teammates benefits from it. It's actually worse gold-wise early in the game when your team isn't grouping up as much.

It's not like defensive items magically get cheaper as time goes on, so other than tying up an item slot (a legitimate argument for some champs) Aegis doesn't get any worse lategame than it was midgame.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#116
I also just think Aegis + Banshee's + Atma's is a super legit 3 item defensive set on Jarman.
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Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
April 20 2011 07:00 GMT
#117
I just recently started playing Jarman and my goodness am I just destroying things. Definitely liking the builds and recommendations from TL so far. The hexdrinker is a surprisingly better item than I use to think now.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 07:30:54
April 20 2011 07:30 GMT
#118
Aegis negates a lot of early game magic/armor pen on your carries- that's why people get it early.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 20 2011 09:18 GMT
#119
Also free long-sword for everyone nearby is mega-kickass
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 11:48:43
April 20 2011 11:43 GMT
#120
Dude Jarvan is so good haha.

I get trinity force, it's the way to go. The 150% dmg after spell cast is really good...

You go in E Q
Stab

R
Stab

W
Stab

Q
Stab

EQ
Stab




I used to max E first, that was a mistake. Definitely max out Q and W if you want to tank. Q huge damage, and W is just too good in team fight. Overall amazing fun hero to play, the EQ combo is clunky and will miss if people know how to dodge it. I suggest you use the combo when you're chasing, as the enemy path is predictable.

Also the slow from W... holy shit it's good haha

I personally go item:
Doran shield
Mercury boot
Phage
Trinity force
BansheeVeil

in that order. Later on you want to be more tanky, of course... I think late late game when u have 1 slot open you can definitely grab some damage item, but I havn't figured out which one is the best...

In team fight you want to approach from the side, you want to flank. The idea is to let your MAIN tank (you are not a true tank imho) go through the front and you cut in from the back and jump the squish (veigar, catalyn, ryze...) and make them go panic and run. Then you can turn back and wreck the people who havn't run out yet.
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