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[Champion] Jarman the Fourth (aka Jarvan ok) - Page 14

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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 20:55:33
June 01 2011 19:55 GMT
#261
So Mogwai, what do you build first? Ghostblade or Warmogs? Or Bruta>Warmogs?

What is usually your build order?

Edit: reading fail sorry.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 01 2011 19:57 GMT
#262
Unless it's changed, he goes philo (x2)->warmog's->atma's
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 01 2011 20:01 GMT
#263
On June 02 2011 04:55 -Kato- wrote:
So Mogwai, what do you build first? Ghostblade or Warmogs? Or Bruta>Warmogs?

What is usually your build order?

First post is up to date, I'm not going to retype it or copy paste it, just read the first post.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 01 2011 21:21 GMT
#264
Loved the FFIV references. Greatest turn-based console RPG of all time imo.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2011 20:34 GMT
#265
On June 02 2011 06:21 broz0rs wrote:
Loved the FFIV references. Greatest turn-based console RPG of all time imo.

I think that's probably just the nostalgia talking (especially since it was semi-real time), but that's OK because I'm hugely nostalgic towards the game too. Need a Dragoon skin for Jarman or Pantheon ASAP IMOIMOIMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
June 02 2011 22:12 GMT
#266
Jarman has a dragoon skin, "Dragon Slayer" or whatever
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#267
I just jungled Jarvan and failed. Well not fail really because how can you fail but it wasn't that fast I think I was chaining E and Q and shit wrong so sad so bad
:)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 03 2011 04:40 GMT
#268
On June 03 2011 07:12 arnath wrote:
Jarman has a dragoon skin, "Dragon Slayer" or whatever

no, needs teal armor with a dragon mask, a Cape and a white lance, DUH.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 16:12:03
June 03 2011 16:11 GMT
#269
I am a believer now.

I finally got a solo lane with Jarman, ended up something like 6/0/8. Double philo is so much sustainability that you can just bully your lane opponent around and then you get warmogs and do stupid damage while being super tanky and then you jump on top of their whole team and kill 3 then get out and I dunno what else followed cause they surrendered then.

The +1 second cd increase nerf really hurt him though. Have to wait 1 more second to kill stuff.
JewJewBees
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
June 04 2011 16:58 GMT
#270
On June 03 2011 07:21 unichan wrote:
I just jungled Jarvan and failed. Well not fail really because how can you fail but it wasn't that fast I think I was chaining E and Q and shit wrong so sad so bad


i might be wrong, but it doesnt seem like jarvan can do blue->wolves->wraiths->red without getting ridicously low anymore due to the cooldown increases on q.

instead ive just been going blue->wolves->wraiths->gols and then pill back, get boots and then red.
it's a lot slower but it grants you a longer red buff and plenty of hp to gank after red.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 04 2011 18:14 GMT
#271
On June 05 2011 01:58 JewJewBees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:21 unichan wrote:
I just jungled Jarvan and failed. Well not fail really because how can you fail but it wasn't that fast I think I was chaining E and Q and shit wrong so sad so bad


i might be wrong, but it doesnt seem like jarvan can do blue->wolves->wraiths->red without getting ridicously low anymore due to the cooldown increases on q.

instead ive just been going blue->wolves->wraiths->gols and then pill back, get boots and then red.
it's a lot slower but it grants you a longer red buff and plenty of hp to gank after red.


Thats why you max E first for the attack speed and armor bonus ^^

I do that route without any issues.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 04 2011 19:29 GMT
#272
On June 05 2011 01:58 JewJewBees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:21 unichan wrote:
I just jungled Jarvan and failed. Well not fail really because how can you fail but it wasn't that fast I think I was chaining E and Q and shit wrong so sad so bad


i might be wrong, but it doesnt seem like jarvan can do blue->wolves->wraiths->red without getting ridicously low anymore due to the cooldown increases on q.

instead ive just been going blue->wolves->wraiths->gols and then pill back, get boots and then red.
it's a lot slower but it grants you a longer red buff and plenty of hp to gank after red.


I run my jungle Jarvan at 21-0-9 with ARpen red/quint, armor yellow, and mres/lvl blue (EQQWQR). If I get a leash at blue, I can do blue => wolves => wraiths => red => sg => blue pill fairly easily, though I tend to be a little low on health after red. I'd suggest speccing 1-18-11 with jungle jarvan if you're afraid of jungle invasions to stay a little beefier.
LancerStarcraft
Profile Joined July 2010
United States235 Posts
June 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#273
[image loading]

Jarman's pretty good.
"Buy a ward. Stop a gank. Save a life."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 21 2011 21:29 GMT
#274
the EU jungle jarmans were opening regrowth and running 0/21/9 with ArPen Reds and Armor everywhere else for anyone who's curious what they were doing. They did a lot of early ganking with less concern for doing full clears on their first run.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 22 2011 00:11 GMT
#275
On June 22 2011 06:29 Mogwai wrote:
the EU jungle jarmans were opening regrowth and running 0/21/9 with ArPen Reds and Armor everywhere else for anyone who's curious what they were doing. They did a lot of early ganking with less concern for doing full clears on their first run.


...and they stacked HoGs like their life depended on it. I found interesting that junglers through the whole DH ended at around 100-120ish CS total. Someone (iirc it was saint) stated that that's why Trundle/Olaf weren't even considered cause they'd need way more farm to do well.

Also, those ganks all over the place.. some of those Jarmans made nunu look like a drunk sailor waiting for breakfest.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 13:28:38
June 22 2011 13:28 GMT
#276
well, right. Junglers were much less about clear times and more about providing roam presence with the double AP setups and with double AP + single AD, it was generally not left to them to farm open lanes + they had to pretty much 100% tank out since there was little to no tankiness in lanes.

the above analogy makes no sense to me...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
June 22 2011 13:32 GMT
#277
im probably gonna do 21/0/9
with R>Q>W>E skill order jarvan after the patch
i wish riot would give me better ping
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 22 2011 13:35 GMT
#278
I'm probably gonna continue what I'm doing except only build 1 philo :p

Not sure, gotta see how much I feel those E nerfs before I get convinced that I should do W over E.

I'm also still in shock that they did NOTHING to Q.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
EvilCheeseMan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States37 Posts
June 22 2011 13:52 GMT
#279
I did a One Philo one HoG build last night as Jarvan and it worked fine. However, I was a solo top and not a jungle. I really do not see the problem with gold per 5 on Jarvan because he will still get two before he builds actual items. It is only slightly less farm for one of the better solo lanes in the game.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 22 2011 14:15 GMT
#280
The problem I've always had with excessive gold/10 on jarman is that he farms up items just fine without it and you end up wasting time and item slots on HoGs when you should have a warmog's building up stacks ASAP. 2 is a good number of gold/10s in lane (double philo > philo + HoG right now IMO, but that ofc changes in this patch). I dunno, after this patch I'm probably going to just run single philo -> brutalizer -> warmog's in lane. Jungle, I think I'll be running triple gold/10 and try to play more gank centric with philo -> HoG -> Avarice and then grab stuff like Sunfire/Banshee's before I look to finish up Ghostblade/Omen. We'll see, gotta go back to the drawing board a bit after this patch.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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