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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 17 2011 20:00 GMT
#41
I want to run flat mana runes + mpen marks, get into lane and then just Q the other person all day for 90 damage a whack after mpen marks. If they have pots I'll use tele and come back to Q them forever again. If I go oom again before they die jungle should give me blue buff so I can continue to Q spam them until they rage quit.

Sound like a plan guys?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 17 2011 20:11 GMT
#42
Why not just run a mass MPen page? Seems generally more useful than flat mana runes.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#43
On February 18 2011 03:47 Brees wrote:
the new ryze seems really powerful from what ive seen so far. He's already starting to become FOTM

His laning is freaking annoying. It's pretty much pre-q-nerf pantheon imo. He literally q's you all day long with like 675 range, which is means his q harass keeps him at a pretty safe distance from counter harass.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 17 2011 20:34 GMT
#44
On February 18 2011 05:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:47 Brees wrote:
the new ryze seems really powerful from what ive seen so far. He's already starting to become FOTM

His laning is freaking annoying. It's pretty much pre-q-nerf pantheon imo. He literally q's you all day long with like 675 range, which is means his q harass keeps him at a pretty safe distance from counter harass.

Haven't played it, but I really can't see how a 70 mana cost spell that deals like 70 dmg at lvl 1 and like 100 at lvl 2 without counting mres can be even close to comparable to Panth's 100 dmg 30 mana cost harrass. =S
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 20:51:34
February 17 2011 20:51 GMT
#45
It really doesn't. A couple of pokes here and there to keep them at around 70-80% health so that junglers can threaten them, but other than that, ryze needs to focus on his own farming a lot more since he's completely dependent on his items.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:30:01
February 17 2011 21:27 GMT
#46
On February 18 2011 05:11 TheYango wrote:
Why not just run a mass MPen page? Seems generally more useful than flat mana runes.

Assuming 30 mres, at level 1 flat mana will do more damage and you have more Qs.

Full mpen page (red/blue/quints): 73 per Q, 500 mana means 7 Qs or 511damage (hardly enough to kill someone).

mpen reds flat mana blues/quints: 82 per Q, 700 mana means 10 Qs or 820 damage.

If you get the mpen mastery,

mpen page: 74 into 518 total
mpen + flat mana: 86 into 860 total.

Heck if you wanted to run a full mana page with the mpen mastery you'd have 90 per Q, 12 Qs, 1080 damage. If all that is hitting the only thing that's going to stay in lane is Nidalee or rejuv bead + pots and then you have teleport for round 2.

Yeah it's troll and early dominance but if I had the IP it'd be tons of fun to fool around with.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 17 2011 22:02 GMT
#47
If you want early domination just stack hp/5 runes instead imho.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 17 2011 22:27 GMT
#48
I was checking profiles today, and I came across loci's. It's like all mana build with wota and void staff. I don't know his exact build so I tried something close, but it's really good. Gives you tankyness and q dmg with extra crap. I think it's something like cata into tier 1 boots, into tears, into tier 2 boots, into either frozen heart or banshees depending on team comp, into wota or void staff, into the one you didn't take, into archangels.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 22:42:33
February 17 2011 22:41 GMT
#49
On February 18 2011 07:02 Shikyo wrote:
If you want early domination just stack hp/5 runes instead imho.


If you wanted to trollface by stacking HP/5 why would you be playing Ryze? Should be playing lane Trundle.

Besides mana Ryze could take SoS and get free Hp/5 quints while still Qing his opponent to death.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 17 2011 22:54 GMT
#50
sxspp didn't like the new Ryze at first but he's still rolling faces with him. Stack mana, fuck AP. You need HP in the form of Banshee's and RoA it seems.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 17 2011 23:49 GMT
#51
On February 18 2011 07:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
sxspp didn't like the new Ryze at first but he's still rolling faces with him. Stack mana, fuck AP. You need HP in the form of Banshee's and RoA it seems.

He's also using mana/lvl glyphs and quints. lol
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 18 2011 01:51 GMT
#52
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6309551&posted=1#post6309551

Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now

New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 01:53:15
February 18 2011 01:52 GMT
#53
Yeah, he's pretty strong, and ez enough for Vman to do gud with him.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 18 2011 02:11 GMT
#54
I love new ryze. He is so much fun to play. I just have to figure out the order I want to build things in.

Given his core, I'm thinking that going cata-boots-tear will be pretty standard, then either getting bv if I need mr or skipping straight to glacial shroud if I need armor, or getting another cata if I can get away without either. After that, finish bv, heart and ROA, then going ahead and getting void staff or rylais.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
February 18 2011 03:25 GMT
#55
Seems like a facerollfest to me. Yeah, those of us experienced with him know which spell orders work better, but just spamming spells works too. I don't like that.

I think some really good points were made about not necessarily needing to finish archangel's or RoA right off the bat. I should have seen this myself. The good thing about this is that you don't actually need too much farming early on because you can keep stacking all these cheap items. Then mid game after you've stacked up some kills you can finish them into tanky stuff as needed.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 18 2011 04:48 GMT
#56
On February 18 2011 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6309551&posted=1#post6309551

Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now

New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game

1) see vman
2) see mananume on recommend items to get on ryze
3) close topic
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 18 2011 05:50 GMT
#57
On February 18 2011 13:48 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6309551&posted=1#post6309551

Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now

New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game

1) see vman
2) see mananume on recommend items to get on ryze
3) close topic

To be fair, his reasoning isnt terrible.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 06:17:11
February 18 2011 06:06 GMT
#58
On February 18 2011 14:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 13:48 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On February 18 2011 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6309551&posted=1#post6309551

Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now

New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game

1) see vman
2) see mananume on recommend items to get on ryze
3) close topic

To be fair, his reasoning isnt terrible.

iirc all his items give mana.
3 of his spells have ap ratios
y u no archangels ???
"AP isn't useless on ryze.

If you have 5000 mana 3% of that is 150

45 + 150 = 195 ap from that alone

That's 40 extra damage on q from turning the tear into archangel

120 extra damage on w,

and 70 extra damage per bounce on e"
lol he even builds 40% CDR.
hahaha ok i give up trying to explain basic logic. go build mananume be real pr0
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 18 2011 06:35 GMT
#59
Hey, I never said he wasn't completely and utterly wrong. Just that if you want to autoattack towers, manamune is the way to go.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 07:19:48
February 18 2011 06:59 GMT
#60
On February 18 2011 15:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
Hey, I never said he wasn't completely and utterly wrong. Just that if you want to autoattack towers, manamune is the way to go.

"Originally Posted by patch 1.0.0.72
Bonus physical damage to turrets from AP expanded to also affect inhibitors and the nexus
Increased the bonus damage to structures from AP to 40% from 25% "
source:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=54504

vman is bad
kk?

AA= +78 dmg to tower. gg
check, and mate. =\
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