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[Champion] Ryze - Page 3
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Sound like a plan guys? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 18 2011 03:47 Brees wrote: the new ryze seems really powerful from what ive seen so far. He's already starting to become FOTM His laning is freaking annoying. It's pretty much pre-q-nerf pantheon imo. He literally q's you all day long with like 675 range, which is means his q harass keeps him at a pretty safe distance from counter harass. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 18 2011 05:12 Ryuu314 wrote: His laning is freaking annoying. It's pretty much pre-q-nerf pantheon imo. He literally q's you all day long with like 675 range, which is means his q harass keeps him at a pretty safe distance from counter harass. Haven't played it, but I really can't see how a 70 mana cost spell that deals like 70 dmg at lvl 1 and like 100 at lvl 2 without counting mres can be even close to comparable to Panth's 100 dmg 30 mana cost harrass. =S | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 18 2011 05:11 TheYango wrote: Why not just run a mass MPen page? Seems generally more useful than flat mana runes. Assuming 30 mres, at level 1 flat mana will do more damage and you have more Qs. Full mpen page (red/blue/quints): 73 per Q, 500 mana means 7 Qs or 511damage (hardly enough to kill someone). mpen reds flat mana blues/quints: 82 per Q, 700 mana means 10 Qs or 820 damage. If you get the mpen mastery, mpen page: 74 into 518 total mpen + flat mana: 86 into 860 total. Heck if you wanted to run a full mana page with the mpen mastery you'd have 90 per Q, 12 Qs, 1080 damage. If all that is hitting the only thing that's going to stay in lane is Nidalee or rejuv bead + pots and then you have teleport for round 2. Yeah it's troll and early dominance but if I had the IP it'd be tons of fun to fool around with. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 18 2011 07:02 Shikyo wrote: If you want early domination just stack hp/5 runes instead imho. If you wanted to trollface by stacking HP/5 why would you be playing Ryze? Should be playing lane Trundle. Besides mana Ryze could take SoS and get free Hp/5 quints while still Qing his opponent to death. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 18 2011 07:54 NeoIllusions wrote: sxspp didn't like the new Ryze at first but he's still rolling faces with him. Stack mana, fuck AP. You need HP in the form of Banshee's and RoA it seems. He's also using mana/lvl glyphs and quints. lol | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Given his core, I'm thinking that going cata-boots-tear will be pretty standard, then either getting bv if I need mr or skipping straight to glacial shroud if I need armor, or getting another cata if I can get away without either. After that, finish bv, heart and ROA, then going ahead and getting void staff or rylais. | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
I think some really good points were made about not necessarily needing to finish archangel's or RoA right off the bat. I should have seen this myself. The good thing about this is that you don't actually need too much farming early on because you can keep stacking all these cheap items. Then mid game after you've stacked up some kills you can finish them into tanky stuff as needed. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On February 18 2011 10:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: https://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6309551&posted=1#post6309551 Vman7's topic on how to build ryze now New Ryze is fucking good, I'm a believer after that game 1) see vman 2) see mananume on recommend items to get on ryze 3) close topic | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 18 2011 13:48 HeavOnEarth wrote: 1) see vman 2) see mananume on recommend items to get on ryze 3) close topic To be fair, his reasoning isnt terrible. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On February 18 2011 14:50 Two_DoWn wrote: To be fair, his reasoning isnt terrible. iirc all his items give mana. 3 of his spells have ap ratios y u no archangels ??? "AP isn't useless on ryze. If you have 5000 mana 3% of that is 150 45 + 150 = 195 ap from that alone That's 40 extra damage on q from turning the tear into archangel 120 extra damage on w, and 70 extra damage per bounce on e" lol he even builds 40% CDR. hahaha ok i give up trying to explain basic logic. go build mananume be real pr0 | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:35 Two_DoWn wrote: Hey, I never said he wasn't completely and utterly wrong. Just that if you want to autoattack towers, manamune is the way to go. "Originally Posted by patch 1.0.0.72 Bonus physical damage to turrets from AP expanded to also affect inhibitors and the nexus Increased the bonus damage to structures from AP to 40% from 25% " source: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=54504 vman is bad kk? AA= +78 dmg to tower. gg check, and mate. =\ | ||
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