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[Champion] Shen - Page 6
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Shen General: Base damage increased to 57.875 from 56.875 General: Damage per level increased to 3.375 from 3.075 General: Base armor increased to 23 from 22 Vorpal Blade: Base damage increased to 70/115/140/175/210 from 50/90/130/170/210 Vorpal Blade: Heal increased to 18/26/34/42/50 from 10/20/30/40/50 (over 3 seconds) Vorpal Blade: Damage ability power ratio increased to 0.75 from 0.65 Vorpal Blade: Heal amount no longer increases with ability power Feint ability power ratio increased to 0.75 from 0.6 Shadow Dash taunt duration increased to 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds from 0.8/1.1/1.4/1.7/2 seconds Stand United: Ability power ratio increased to 1.5 from 1.0 Stand United: Energy cost reduced to 0 from 50 Anyone got any thoughts on this? Seems like is early game is a bit stronger... but i dunno if it's enough for him to be able to hang with the big boys of top lane. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
also, if his gameplay has changed noticeably, i will be creating a new shen thread and requesting this one closed :3 so any last comments you have comment away! | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265340¤tpage=6#112 | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Shen's probably pretty good right now, but I just don't see why you would ever build AP on him when you can just buy tank/tanky deeps items on him. EDIT: I love Loci and he's a fantastic player, but it's delusional to think that you should be building AP on Shen. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
I mean, honestly, as a long time Hybrid DPS Shen troller, they nerfed his AP's sustained effectiveness by removing the ratio on the heal from vorpal. And he's not a burster, so who cares that his burst shielding/damaging is slightly increased? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
I mean, if you are getting solo-farm from the start then you should just get a fast sunfire to abuse that amazing DPS for early game, or fast warmogs. I guess I'd rather play Shen more as a support hero so that he can 100% concentrate on harassing the enemy team with his vorpal shit. WotA just happens to have the best aura at the moment in my opinion because there's maybe like TWO champions that wouldn't benefit heavily from 25% spell vamp. You won't able to dive balls deep into the enemy team for their squishies though, but I imagine you'd be a very versatile babysitter in teamfights. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
actually I'll cross post my thoughts from yesterday On September 14 2011 12:33 myopia wrote: Shen buffs are a joke IMO, he's still completely ignorable late game. Riot changing his AP ratios is farcical - where are all these AP items Shen is supposed to be buying, while still maintaining his energy based tank role? Rylais, Abyssal... that's it? (Don't forget Q is his only method of proccing Rylai's) oh man they actually REMOVED his heal AP ratio? seriously, Riot? Shen's kit has been problematic since they so thoroughly nerfed randuin's and sunfire. He doesn't have any items to call his own. his skills are still too watered down (or totally useless in W's case), and he doesn't scale well. Tanks like Amumu/Cow/Cho still make Shen look bad. Really bad. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On September 15 2011 04:56 Mogwai wrote: I think he played one game and went 3-5 vs. HSGG's 15-0 Cho. Shen's probably pretty good right now, but I just don't see why you would ever build AP on him when you can just buy tank/tanky deeps items on him. EDIT: I love Loci and he's a fantastic player, but it's delusional to think that you should be building AP on Shen. rylais seems so legit on paper though | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
frozen mallet is a better choice for shen, ap ratios or not | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
I suggest to thee the following build: Boots or Shield opening HoG Revolver for more sustain giants belt (to increase dat passive early on) finish Bunglade build Sunfire or Warmogs depening on how well you farm (preferably warmogs) Force of Nature just because your shen and HP is all you need (and bunglades) another Gunblade for that even better shield, ult and heal from Q allowing you to in theory stay in battle longer (imagne that shen's Q is like Vlad's and the longer you stay in a fight and lock on to a target the longer you live and become a machine gun) Finish Randuin's at some point and ofc finish Merc treads aswell (unless you wanne do the super AP build and get Moonflair, and can get tabi or cdr boots) | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
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