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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 14 2012 18:53 GMT
#241
This OP desperately needs an update. Still recommends Sunfire and HoG stacking ...
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2012 18:56 GMT
#242
Why not do it yourself, or dictate it to someone? I'd like to see it as well, I think Shen's a very fun champ that I'd like to know more about.
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 14 2012 19:15 GMT
#243
On February 15 2012 03:53 Mogwai wrote:
This OP desperately needs an update. Still recommends Sunfire and HoG stacking ...


there was no point in updating it because shen was not a super viable pick
now it's been 6 months and i can't edit the OP anymore
i'm fine with someone else making a new guide
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 14 2012 19:36 GMT
#244
So I just got my first shen game after the patch... and FUCK YEAH. He's back to his glory days, he gives no fucks about anything and just trucks people.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 14 2012 19:43 GMT
#245
geezus...OP was back when dorans were like 425 gold or smth lololol.

so what's go-to shen build now? boots3 into phage+recurve then build wits, atmogs, triforce?
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#246
On February 15 2012 04:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
geezus...OP was back when dorans were like 425 gold or smth lololol.

so what's go-to shen build now? boots3 into phage+recurve then build wits, atmogs, triforce?

I feel like there should be an earlyish HoG in there somewhere. And a late-ish randuins.
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
February 14 2012 20:00 GMT
#247
On February 15 2012 04:36 Dgiese wrote:
So I just got my first shen game after the patch... and FUCK YEAH. He's back to his glory days, he gives no fucks about anything and just trucks people.

This is the best Valentine's Day present ever!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 14 2012 20:38 GMT
#248
I'd have to disagree strongly with that assertion. But buffed Shen is fun to play nonetheless.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 14 2012 22:27 GMT
#249
On February 15 2012 05:00 omgbnetsux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 04:36 Dgiese wrote:
So I just got my first shen game after the patch... and FUCK YEAH. He's back to his glory days, he gives no fucks about anything and just trucks people.

This is the best Valentine's Day present ever!


omghiomgbnetsux!

Long time no see. :3
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 14 2012 22:46 GMT
#250
Hmmm... I wonder if I'm dyslexic, I first read his name as 'omgbutsex'.... either that or I've got some dormant sexuality issues i need to work on.

Anyway, on Shen, it doesn't feel like he needs ionic spark, wits end, Q and ki strike are actually pretty damn quick at clearing waves. Add in the fact that W reduces ki strike's CD even further, and I don't really think Ionic spark has much place on him.

Admittedly, I haven't tried it on him yet, but it seems like a waste of money when you look at the other things you could be getting on him.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2012 00:26 GMT
#251
Played another game with Shen just now. Vs Naut with an enemy Shaco jungle. Because of Red Shaco, who tried to gank twice in 3 minutes into game no less, I had to play safe (Level 2 Dash + Flash = no deaths). But didn't stop me from farming up a storm.

The best thing I like about Shen's laning is the fact that you still life steal if you use Q to last hit. That is amazing sustain while farming at tower or even last hitting melee minions while you're being zoned.

Skipped Wriggle's, went HoG, Aegis, Randuin's.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 15 2012 00:40 GMT
#252
On February 15 2012 09:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Played another game with Shen just now. Vs Naut with an enemy Shaco jungle. Because of Red Shaco, who tried to gank twice in 3 minutes into game no less, I had to play safe (Level 2 Dash + Flash = no deaths). But didn't stop me from farming up a storm.

The best thing I like about Shen's laning is the fact that you still life steal if you use Q to last hit. That is amazing sustain while farming at tower or even last hitting melee minions while you're being zoned.

Skipped Wriggle's, went HoG, Aegis, Randuin's.


no attack speed? wits end looked real broken on SV stream
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 15 2012 01:16 GMT
#253
just pointing this out, but i got wrecked earlier by an AP shen, and realized that he was bursting me for 700+ damage with vorpal + dash combo pretty regularly. Our top lane was a disaster tho, 0-11 ww (he randomed since he got the champ bug) so it's hard to tell whether it was due to snowball or whether AP is actually now pretty strong on shen.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 01:21:24
February 15 2012 01:21 GMT
#254
On February 15 2012 10:16 barbsq wrote:
just pointing this out, but i got wrecked earlier by an AP shen, and realized that he was bursting me for 700+ damage with vorpal + dash combo pretty regularly. Our top lane was a disaster tho, 0-11 ww (he randomed since he got the champ bug) so it's hard to tell whether it was due to snowball or whether AP is actually now pretty strong on shen.

i'd imagine AP is weaker now considering how his ratios were all nerfed across teh board. with the exception of his dash now doing damage, but I guess that might contribute to why AP seems stronger...
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2012 02:38 GMT
#255
On February 15 2012 09:40 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 09:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Played another game with Shen just now. Vs Naut with an enemy Shaco jungle. Because of Red Shaco, who tried to gank twice in 3 minutes into game no less, I had to play safe (Level 2 Dash + Flash = no deaths). But didn't stop me from farming up a storm.

The best thing I like about Shen's laning is the fact that you still life steal if you use Q to last hit. That is amazing sustain while farming at tower or even last hitting melee minions while you're being zoned.

Skipped Wriggle's, went HoG, Aegis, Randuin's.


no attack speed? wits end looked real broken on SV stream


Mercs + Aegis was enough MR vs Naut. I haven't tried Wit's on him yet. I told Smash I'd try out Trinity Shen first, so it's on my agenda.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 03:18:50
February 15 2012 03:17 GMT
#256
On February 15 2012 10:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 10:16 barbsq wrote:
just pointing this out, but i got wrecked earlier by an AP shen, and realized that he was bursting me for 700+ damage with vorpal + dash combo pretty regularly. Our top lane was a disaster tho, 0-11 ww (he randomed since he got the champ bug) so it's hard to tell whether it was due to snowball or whether AP is actually now pretty strong on shen.

i'd imagine AP is weaker now considering how his ratios were all nerfed across teh board. with the exception of his dash now doing damage, but I guess that might contribute to why AP seems stronger...

Nerfed across the board, but it adds up to higher ratio's on his damage, courtesy of dash (as u mentioned). he's now got 1.2 ap scaling on damage, instead of 0.7 or something.

checked numbers .75 -> 1.1 on dmg.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 15 2012 03:45 GMT
#257
On February 15 2012 12:17 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 10:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On February 15 2012 10:16 barbsq wrote:
just pointing this out, but i got wrecked earlier by an AP shen, and realized that he was bursting me for 700+ damage with vorpal + dash combo pretty regularly. Our top lane was a disaster tho, 0-11 ww (he randomed since he got the champ bug) so it's hard to tell whether it was due to snowball or whether AP is actually now pretty strong on shen.

i'd imagine AP is weaker now considering how his ratios were all nerfed across teh board. with the exception of his dash now doing damage, but I guess that might contribute to why AP seems stronger...

Nerfed across the board, but it adds up to higher ratio's on his damage, courtesy of dash (as u mentioned). he's now got 1.2 ap scaling on damage, instead of 0.7 or something.

checked numbers .75 -> 1.1 on dmg.

You're summing the ratio of 1 Vorpal + 1 Dash. That's not accounting for how the CD is longer, and how more energy-restrictive Dash is, particularly in small skirmishes where you won't land multi-target Dashes.

You throw many more Vorpals in a fight than you do Dashes.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 15 2012 04:13 GMT
#258
On February 15 2012 12:45 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 12:17 Dgiese wrote:
On February 15 2012 10:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On February 15 2012 10:16 barbsq wrote:
just pointing this out, but i got wrecked earlier by an AP shen, and realized that he was bursting me for 700+ damage with vorpal + dash combo pretty regularly. Our top lane was a disaster tho, 0-11 ww (he randomed since he got the champ bug) so it's hard to tell whether it was due to snowball or whether AP is actually now pretty strong on shen.

i'd imagine AP is weaker now considering how his ratios were all nerfed across teh board. with the exception of his dash now doing damage, but I guess that might contribute to why AP seems stronger...

Nerfed across the board, but it adds up to higher ratio's on his damage, courtesy of dash (as u mentioned). he's now got 1.2 ap scaling on damage, instead of 0.7 or something.

checked numbers .75 -> 1.1 on dmg.

You're summing the ratio of 1 Vorpal + 1 Dash. That's not accounting for how the CD is longer, and how more energy-restrictive Dash is, particularly in small skirmishes where you won't land multi-target Dashes.

You throw many more Vorpals in a fight than you do Dashes.


Cooldown on Dash was reduced, and on vorpal it wasn't changed? And dash energy return was changed to 40x instead of flat 50, so even if u just dash 1 person thats a tiny nerf.

Yes you will be throwing more vorpals, but I still feel like it's an AP Shen buff.

Not that it really matters though, cause other builds just seem better.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
February 15 2012 04:20 GMT
#259
Non-Shen player here, does he lose to any top lanes now?
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
February 15 2012 04:27 GMT
#260
On February 15 2012 13:20 ManyCookies wrote:
Non-Shen player here, does he lose to any top lanes now?


I think he lose to Warwick but that is about it.
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