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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 28 2011 05:59 GMT
#181
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
December 28 2011 07:38 GMT
#182
Ryuu actually gave you some really in-depth knowledge and advice, it's better to have a little humility and accept it than it is to treat it like a debate you have to win.
I will eat you alive
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 28 2011 07:39 GMT
#183
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.
Hey! How you doin'?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 28 2011 07:58 GMT
#184
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.


it's a bit on the arrogant side, but I and i'm sure several other ppl on this board can vouch for the fact that 5hit is a good player and generally knows what he's talking about. This other guy that he's talking about is, on the other hand, making even greater claims ('master' of shen, lol) and doesn't even budge from his opinion when his build is largely formulated from play at a sub-par level. It doesn't help that he's a self-proclaimed 900 player, and while that doesn't necessarily invalidate his opinion, it certainly makes a lot of ppl here raise eyebrows, and for good reason. We've had issues with this sort of thing before (see 1st kassadin thread) and 9 times out of 10 it's better to nip these things in the bud
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
December 28 2011 08:07 GMT
#185
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.


i don't see how that invalidates anything else he said...
but it wouldn't matter. i've seen 5hit's cho 1v5 at plat level. i've seen high elo player smurfs 1v5 with AD annie at 900 elo. but that's totally not on topic of the thread or even the discussion

the point 5hit and others are trying to make here is this: if you're giving advice, it's because you want someone *worse* than you to be able to get better. you're not trying to get high elo players to use your build (unless you're high elo yourself, like navi/smash's guides!), because if high elo players could win with your build, you would be a high elo player. you need to look at your own skill level before giving said advice, because if you are 900 elo, who are you really helping with that advice? a small fraction of players. notice how none of the posts in this topic are highlighted with big yellow text that says "2100 elo player" anywhere? so if you post advice from the perspective of a low-leveled player, it's not differentiated from the advice of a high-leveled player. so someone who might be a mid-level player might see both your post and another post and think they are equally valid - when we've already established that any build you post is going to be viable at your level and under. so they will be lowering their own level of play by following your build, which defeats the purpose of such threads

likewise, you should be aware that if your build is really that effective, you will see your elo rise when you play that champ and use that build. granted, people do have bad luck but even if we fudge your luck to say you've lost 300 elo due to bad teammates/leavers/ragers/trolls, that still only puts you at 1200 elo. can you see yourself playing nothing but C+D and swifties shen, and getting to 2200 elo? 1900? 1700? even 1400? if not, it's better to just listen to what the more experienced and more highly rated players have to say, use their builds and adapt them to what suits your playstyle best (i.e. maybe swifties DO just work for how you play, and that's fine, but it's definitely not optimal and definitely not popular), and ask them questions, rather than posting your own build and arguing over it, shitting up the thread
would you ever miss it?
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
December 28 2011 09:27 GMT
#186
If you switch Swifties for Mercs your build will improve. Also, it's not your job to chase, if you chase you are not protecting your carries. With Shen you should be taunting the guys trying to kill your carries and support dpsing them. If you are able to taunt their carries by all means do it but don't chase them around the map after that, protect your team.

You buy C&D for better farming, that doesn't help. Try Wriggles, you get farm capacity and the lifesteal you like to get all in one. Plus armor and AD.

You are asking people here to try your build, you should lead by example and try the things people are suggesting here, I guarantee you will see an improvement in your Shen.

What is your summoner name?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 28 2011 09:35 GMT
#187
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.

Find me a team of 900s and I'm up for the challenge, no joke.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 28 2011 10:09 GMT
#188
On December 28 2011 18:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.

Find me a team of 900s and I'm up for the challenge, no joke.


Can they be silvers like me? :D
Hey! How you doin'?
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
December 28 2011 10:11 GMT
#189
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.

And this is why Logic 101 should be a mandatory class in college
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Blyf
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Denmark408 Posts
December 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#190
On December 28 2011 18:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.

Find me a team of 900s and I'm up for the challenge, no joke.


LoL I wanna see this - please make this happen!
"ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin --- wtf? begets isn't a word. quit trying to make up words, fuckface. - Some idiot --- D3 Evelynn main with a side of Ashe/Tristana
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 28 2011 16:59 GMT
#191
On December 28 2011 19:11 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 16:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 28 2011 14:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 28 2011 10:57 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
Oh funny thing, I don't have JACK when it comes to runes, I like have all teir 1 and I use this build and still win with a impressive k/d/a so maybe because you have those mvspd quints it feels better with cc boots. As for me I'm basically playing shen without runes. I can put my ign here if you want to see for youself but I'm speaking honestly here. I have only 2 teir 3 runes lol. But umm as for dead end items yeah they are however I find it wierd that despite them being dead end items I can't get enough farm to actually have access gold, most games I hardly have the build completed and I'm 2/4/19 with the enemy nexus destoryed. Oh well all I can say is try it yourself becuase it works for me! almost every person I have beaten had full teir 3 runes so it goes to show it's got some merit...if you don't think so if you need me to prove anything at all I wouldn't mind playing a game or two with you to prove it...

Hi I'm 5HITCOMBO and I was platinum S1.

A) You're in 900 Elo ranked. Everyone in every single one of your games is worse than any player I have ever played with. If your K/D/A isn't high you're incredibly stupid because people at this Elo couldn't beat me 1v5.

B) Builds don't have to be good or make sense at your level because your normal Elo and ranked Elo are both incredibly low. I could build crit chance rammus and I'd still basically never die. 900 Elo is people who have a mildly hard time against bots.

C) Holy shit the build we're talking about is bad.

D) We're not judging you as a person. We're trying to keep our forum clean. We don't want advice from 900 Elo players on how to play like a 900 Elo in a forum that has discussions between players who have been #1 on the ladder and play in high-profile cash prize events. This is a competitive forum. We are not insulting you when we say you really need to improve your thought process, we're being real. You're not on the level where you should be telling people what to build on any champ. You can change that, sure, but prove it to us first.


Idk, I'd like to see you 1v5 900 ELO ranked. If you can't win 100% of the time, I'd say everything else in your post is also invalid.

And this is why Logic 101 should be a mandatory class in college


I was actually joking, calm down.
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
December 28 2011 18:01 GMT
#192
brb force dropping my elo down to 900 to play 5hit.
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warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 19:15:50
December 28 2011 19:15 GMT
#193
Bit late to the party here but the PBE Shen buffs look insane.

2% max hp per hit on Q is basically Gargas passive
W is meh although when you taunt armor helps a bit.
E is needed
Passive is straight up 50% damage buff and minion reduction -> even stronger top when Shen is already not bad top and perhaps okish jungle?

I guess Q hp regen will be cut a bit to maybe 1~1.5%? and passive to maybe 10%? Havn't been to PBE to test it out, too lazy to download the client. Has anybody here tried PBE Shen? How is he in jungle/top?
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
December 28 2011 19:26 GMT
#194
Its 2% max HP of the target, so it isnt as good on minions
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deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
December 28 2011 19:53 GMT
#195
shen still won't be able to jungle because health in the jungle was never his problem. it was the fact that his first clear takes 9 minutes, he has no aoe and no damage...
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 28 2011 21:35 GMT
#196
On December 29 2011 04:26 FieryBalrog wrote:
Its 2% max HP of the target, so it isnt as good on minions


The patch notes say 2% of attackers max health.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 28 2011 22:07 GMT
#197
I tried shen in new jungle. OMG he's horrendously bad in it >.> What was I thinking???

His lane isn't that great either. I did okay solo top with him, but overall lost my lane (less cs than the other dude, but was able to go 0/0 with him). I could see shen being a more viable bot support, but even then I rather have a full on support like sona/janna/soraka with ad carry, than I would with shen.

Just played for free week, not a shen expert or anything. Just my 2 cents.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 23:10:51
December 28 2011 23:05 GMT
#198
He's not that bad, you were probably just playing bad. Dan dinh plays him jungle every so often and it's not that terrible. I have solid results with it too. His gank is ferocious and unwardable. You tell one of the lanes to go way far forward and cut off the enemy and then port in behind them for easy taunt.

He can't be played support at all, he needs items for durability. Taunt not so good when they kill you first anyway in 2 seconds. Plus it's a bad use of his ult, can't just leave the ad 2v1, and if you use it on the ad you are wasting the tele.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 28 2011 23:16 GMT
#199
On December 29 2011 07:07 wei2coolman wrote:
I tried shen in new jungle. OMG he's horrendously bad in it >.> What was I thinking???

His lane isn't that great either. I did okay solo top with him, but overall lost my lane (less cs than the other dude, but was able to go 0/0 with him). I could see shen being a more viable bot support, but even then I rather have a full on support like sona/janna/soraka with ad carry, than I would with shen.

Just played for free week, not a shen expert or anything. Just my 2 cents.

He needs to much farm to be played as support. His jungle is pretty darn slow so he's not great in jungle either, but his ganks are quite good. Solo top Shen does pretty well cause q harass is basically free and q+ki strike is good burst and his q sustain isn't terrible. His biggest problem ATM is dropping off and becoming an ult/taunt bot cause his damage is pretty crappy and his taunt is so expensive u basically can only use it once in fights and maybe a second time to run or clean up
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 01:43:41
December 30 2011 23:37 GMT
#200
So one of shen's flaws is the fact that he has difficulty shoving a lane on-demand - so, with that in mind how does Ionic Spark sound on him? (when it is added to SR) The HP helps his passive and new vorpal healing.
Other than that, it basically functions like a Wits End with a different defensive stat and different damage mechanic. Thoughts?
Edit: took out an incorrect thing I said about his buffs.
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