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Jungle eve is just the best.
I think some people are playing her a tad bit wrong though (or at least not the playstyle I like.) They try to play her as a squishy AP burst carry which she can be, but I enjoy the hunter like I will chase you down while still being super fast unkillable and doing tons of dmg.
Max Q>W>E. W is one of the best spells in the game. It makes you as fast as Hecarim, removes slows and resets. The passive movement speed boost you get from your spell casts is also huge considering your Q is your major source of dmg.
Also buy a frozen fist on her after your Elder Lizard and actually AA with her. Sheen has always been one of the best items on Eve and frozen fist gives you the sheen proc, slow and tank. No one gets away from you between the slow and your movement speed boost/slow immunity.
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I really , really want to get good with jungle eve, she was my favorite jungle back when she was the shittiest character in the game  Thanks for the tips guys, I think I've been building her wrong and prioritizing the wrong things (farms vs ganks) in the early game.
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wowwwww, just tried this ibg evelynn, this is freakin awesome. Nobody gets away, even an alistar couldn't get me off him. Great against ad heavy comps too :p
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I don't see why I would get IBG over Rylais. Health is a better defensive stat even on Eve, the Rylais slow is more reliable over time, and it doesn't take long to make up for the burst damage from the auto.
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obviously the correct thing to do is build both, no one gets out alive
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Jungle Evelynn is so good. You either get the enemy to spend billions on pinks or become a ganking beast... And even if the enemy has 2 pinks you can lanegank with the speedup incredibly well in certain situations. I also think that she's a really underrated teamfighter and she snowballs extremely hard.
As a toplaner, Evelynn is by far the most dangerous jungler to face, and I either need to decide between spending 250g per back on being ungankable or just not buying any wards ever. Doing it half-assed just doesn't seem to work against her and she gives me the most trouble out of all junglers by far.
As for the build, I'd go with Rageblade because it has so good synergy with everything about her, especially if you're able to delay your ult until you're below half hp.
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On July 02 2013 19:21 Shikyo wrote:
especially if you're able to delay your ult until you're below half hp.
Probably if you wait like that also your enemy probably isnt full hp anymore, and your ult scale with % current health so...
Why keep it when you can start a fight with your ulti and maximize your damage? it doesnt make sense...
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rageblade looked really nice at first to me, but so much of the gold value of the item is tied up in attack speed. between already having an AS steroid on your E and being a squishy melee who doesn't get a ton of opportunities for prolonged auto-attacking, rageblade doesn't very efficient on eve at all.
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Need Scip to come in here and set us all straight.
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Rageblade seems pretty terrible since it doesn't give any hp whatsoever and given that all your skills except for E are AoE (and you will use E at the start of the fight and it has moderately long cooldown) the spellvamp and the lifesteal are going to be quite useless.
Since you are a melee champion with no jumps and no HUGE burst (not Zed level) you need some sort of tankiness unless you plan on splitpushing (hint - you can't, because you are a jungler)
Since you want to get SotEL first, you will be pretty squishy from the start of the midgame. Getting rageblade then is pretty awkward, since that is a LOT of money (2600!!!) invested in exactly 0 survivability. Zhonyas is useless if you have to use it immediately after casting your ult, so you would need to get some HP going first too. As mentioned before, Rageblade is actually not very cost efficient, so that sucks too.
The alternative is to get Haunting Guise, and because it is a lot cheaper so you get it like 1000 gold quicker you can afford to go straight for Zhonyas probably because you can still kind of survive out of your base stats+200hp from haunting guise.
I mean I could dismiss it on grounds of being pretty horribly inefficient for anyone who is too squishy to be able to fight reasonably well at 50% hp but this reasoning extends to any expensive damage only items, so there you go long winded response.
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Theoretically, shouldn't Eve be focused more on resists than just HP if she wants tankiness because she gets a shield?
I know guise is pretty standard on her already. Also, how often does she even auto? Her Q is on a 1.5 second cooldown. Would some sort of blue build be good on her? (IBG + Muramana).
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Not muramana because she abuses the proc poorly. Perhaps Seraph, which goes in with the tankiness that she wants - thing is, her base mana is pretty meh and she doesn't really need a big mana item to spam her shit since she has blue-buff type mana regen whenever she's stealthe.d
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Yeah, you don't really have that many mana problems, not enough to justify getting tear at all, it just makes you so much weaker.
Yes, theoretically focusing on resists is better, which is part of why Zhonyas is so good on her, but you can't rely on getting your hp from shield ulti, oftentimes you'll use it on 1 person to catch him and then not have it up for the main fight, people zhonya/pool just before you ulti etc. Also especially early midgame you'll have fights where your ultimate is on cooldown, which is why haunting guise is so nice; ruby crystal is a really good build path for that reason.
So yes, resists are better on her than on most champions, hp still necessary though.
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Well, I was thinking if you wanted to donate blue to your mid right off the bat an early tear might work, and spamming Q means you stack it super quick-- plus, the muramana proc on a 1.5 sec cooldown felt like it could be pretty strong, and your passive mana regen makes it so the mana depletion doesn't matter as much.
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On July 03 2013 08:02 Scip wrote:
Yeah, you don't really have that many mana problems, not enough to justify getting tear at all, it just makes you so much weaker.
Yes, theoretically focusing on resists is better, which is part of why Zhonyas is so good on her, but you can't rely on getting your hp from shield ulti, oftentimes you'll use it on 1 person to catch him and then not have it up for the main fight, people zhonya/pool just before you ulti etc. Also especially early midgame you'll have fights where your ultimate is on cooldown, which is why haunting guise is so nice; ruby crystal is a really good build path for that reason.
So yes, resists are better on her than on most champions, hp still necessary though.
Especially with how her base health pool is a bit low compared to most melee champions.
I'm not sure about Rylai's - I guess you'd get a reasonable slow on your E, and otherwise you're just exacerbating the 'never get away from me' nature of Q spam.
On July 03 2013 09:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
Well, I was thinking if you wanted to donate blue to your mid right off the bat an early tear might work, and spamming Q means you stack it super quick-- plus, the muramana proc on a 1.5 sec cooldown felt like it could be pretty strong, and your passive mana regen makes it so the mana depletion doesn't matter as much.
You don't get the muramana proc on a 1.5 sec CD. Muramana only procs on single target abilities. Hate spike is AOE. You'll get 2 muramana procs off of Ravage (E) and other than that, you only proc with your autoattacks.
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On July 03 2013 09:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
Well, I was thinking if you wanted to donate blue to your mid right off the bat an early tear might work, and spamming Q means you stack it super quick-- plus, the muramana proc on a 1.5 sec cooldown felt like it could be pretty strong, and your passive mana regen makes it so the mana depletion doesn't matter as much.
You can donate 2nd blue buff and every subsequent blue to your middle laner and not have significant mana problems.
I do get rylais sometimes, specifically if I want my hp item and have saved up 1000 for giants belt and am not worried about enemy magic damage THAT much. More often I actually go for aegis to cover my hp needs though.
also this guide is hooooooorrrrrribly outdated, I guess Ill write something tommorow
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Scip, what's your backup plan on Eve when not many opportunities arise for ganks (i.e., your laners are pushing hard or are losing miserably?). Is there an "abort" build for when you don't snowball? I find that when I have room to chase people down during ganks, I usually get plenty of kills and snowball hard. But when I can't find those openings, it gets really hard to stay relevant even against squishies. Do you just go Aegis/Abyssal or something and try to just stay in the middle of their team with your ult? Do you still try to take their AD or whoever out of the fight for as long as you can?
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If I utterly fail to snowball I'd go Lizard Elder, Haunting Guise and probably Aegis, but if they have no magic damage of interest to me I might go Locket instead. It's not a bad idea to get Ninja Tabi or in case of heavy magic dmg and CC Merc Treads either. You will kind of have to deal with doing less damage in the mid and lategame, but despite getting those tanky items if I got 1600+ gold by chance I'd still go for zhonyas.
I rarely go for the AD carry with Eve, maybe lategame once I have Zhonyas and know I'll get a reset while I am encased in gold, but rushing an AD carry that's not out of position is an amazingly good way of getting yourself killed. You have massive damage and no jumps, better use yourself to just focus the same targets as your team, you can chase people once the enemy team is routed and you have your reset.
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