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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
July 25 2013 11:07 GMT
#641
On July 25 2013 17:53 imBLIND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 11:45 commandchild wrote:
Where is this Korean guide everyone is referencing?

Edit: Im sorry i'm literally blind and literally missed it.


its okay i missed it too

how ironic.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 19:23:13
July 25 2013 19:22 GMT
#642
I dunno how that build works but it sure does. The earlygame till you get your first item is extremely fragile though and you have to pretty much play like a complete pussy and give up cs. but after that its awesome.

EDIT: early on if someone tries to all in you just orange their CC then activate E, run behind your creep line so he takes a bunch of dmg from creeps while you dont.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 25 2013 22:21 GMT
#643
On July 26 2013 04:22 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I dunno how that build works but it sure does. The earlygame till you get your first item is extremely fragile though and you have to pretty much play like a complete pussy and give up cs. but after that its awesome.

EDIT: early on if someone tries to all in you just orange their CC then activate E, run behind your creep line so he takes a bunch of dmg from creeps while you dont.

auto-q-auto actually makes you totally own people at level 1 if they can't full combo you, just don't do an extended engage. If I'm top side I usually wait in the lane bush and almost get FB when they pass and I ignite auto q auto auto and blow their flash
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 23:11:16
July 25 2013 23:08 GMT
#644
can somebody explain what makes shiv so strong item only on him ? i dont get what is he getting from it compared to lets say irelia who is superior to gp at every point of the game without it
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2013 23:32 GMT
#645
He moves fast, attacks fast and his Q procs it.
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ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:13:23
July 26 2013 00:10 GMT
#646
On July 26 2013 08:08 kongoline wrote:
can somebody explain what makes shiv so strong item only on him ? i dont get what is he getting from it compared to lets say irelia who is superior to gp at every point of the game without it

The korean guide's whole point is to abuse his passive basically, which is why you get a bunch of AS to apply the passive a bunch. Or at least this is what I gathered from the guide.

Not to mention the movespeed and proc on GP's Q.

edit: I have never actually tried this. though last night I bought GP so its awnnnn
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
July 26 2013 04:35 GMT
#647
what common lane matchups are my fellow koreaplanks winning/losing in ranked?
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 26 2013 04:43 GMT
#648
renekton is the only completely unwinnable one I've run in to.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 26 2013 04:55 GMT
#649
I'm glad Renekton's fallen off in popularity a bit. Screw him.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 26 2013 06:09 GMT
#650
I've been doing this on my smurf and I haven't lost a lane in a ranked game yet. Last game I went like 12-0-x and didn't even die.

It's stupidly strong because nobody knows his passive applies a dot and a slow and by the time they realize they're losing an extended trade it's too late and you just ignite r e q/auto them to death.
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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
July 26 2013 06:21 GMT
#651
On July 26 2013 09:10 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:08 kongoline wrote:
can somebody explain what makes shiv so strong item only on him ? i dont get what is he getting from it compared to lets say irelia who is superior to gp at every point of the game without it

The korean guide's whole point is to abuse his passive basically, which is why you get a bunch of AS to apply the passive a bunch. Or at least this is what I gathered from the guide.

Not to mention the movespeed and proc on GP's Q.

edit: I have never actually tried this. though last night I bought GP so its awnnnn


My understanding of his point was that Irelia's W passive is stronger than GP's passive in terms of damage at all points in the game.

That said zooming around proccing Shiv on every pistol shot (the timing lines up about right with enough MS) and critting on every other one feels really fun regardless of how good it is.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 07:16:22
July 26 2013 07:12 GMT
#652
At level 1, GP's passive does 12 damage. Irelia's W maxed heals for 13. When activated it'll obviously be more powerful because of the true damage, but the passive is significantly more powerful for GP. Can't really compare an active ability vs a passive. Even then, maxed W's heal/damage combines for 101, whereas GP's passive does 63 damage at level 18. Of course, it'll end up being a greater difference because it's true damage/heal vs magic damage over time, but for a passive it's pretty damn powerful, especially when combined with Wit's End.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 26 2013 08:53 GMT
#653
Also it's a 3 second dot which stacks 3 times and you can immediately apply it with auto q auto if you are in auto range because it slows too. It's just a way to play gankplank that's not easy to itemize against like you can if he goes pure damage (dshield + ninja tabi). This build makes your dueling power really strong because you steal their MR while doing half magic damage (shiv proc + wits proc + passive stacks) and can fight long sustained fights with w and your passive or just poke/farm and never die because w is maxed, which is fine because you're gangplank and you get to late game before everyone else does anyway, and then you're a huge pain in fights because you just run around slowing everyone/stealing MR/firing off procs and ults and randuins and e.

I also don't think comparing Irelia's W to anything Gangplank has serves any purpose because you use them differently.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 26 2013 09:55 GMT
#654
On July 26 2013 13:43 Complete wrote:
renekton is the only completely unwinnable one I've run in to.


Have you happened to play against a Singed? I'm curious if it works against him...
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 26 2013 10:35 GMT
#655
You'll never be able to kill a Singed unless he's terrible, and he can force you back to your tower when he ults. Probably the best you can really hope for is to stay close in CS.
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 26 2013 16:12 GMT
#656
On July 26 2013 18:55 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 13:43 Complete wrote:
renekton is the only completely unwinnable one I've run in to.


Have you happened to play against a Singed? I'm curious if it works against him...


Felt pretty skill matchuppy the one time I played it, but I could be wrong. You have an early advantage so it would probably help a lot to get a pre-6 kill.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 27 2013 14:46 GMT
#657
Singed vs GP is in GPs favour early but if he gets to 6 and you aren't dominating him you won't be able to kill him at all.

Tbh singed can just go cloth 5 survive the poke early then won't give a fuck about GP anymore.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 27 2013 19:23 GMT
#658
I saw a GP go avarice -> hydra and just get full parley gold off of every wave vs. a proxy singed once. It was pretty hilarious, dude had just shy of 20k gold in a 35 minute game and obliterated teamfights.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 27 2013 23:04 GMT
#659
Singed can start flask pot ward and play a bit passively until 6 and you can't really do much.
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commandchild
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 03:39:49
July 28 2013 03:39 GMT
#660
On July 28 2013 04:23 Mogwai wrote:
I saw a GP go avarice -> hydra and just get full parley gold off of every wave vs. a proxy singed once. It was pretty hilarious, dude had just shy of 20k gold in a 35 minute game and obliterated teamfights.


Ive been building avarice blade first to help with early game, but I wouldnt think the Hydra passive would proc on Q due to it being ranged? If it does my mind has just been blown
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