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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 19:05 GMT
#621
I wouldn't pick Wit's as GP's MR item. Merc's are probably going to be part of your build already, SV is a good choice, Bulwark is nice for your team, and Maw is better for farming/fighting/surviving. The new Spellbreaker item might be nice on him, will be better than Wit's by far,
It's your boy Guzma!
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 21:06:22
July 23 2013 21:06 GMT
#622
If I understand it correctly the point of Wits in this build is not just the MR but also the Magic Pen it provides.
Romanes eunt domus
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#623
Well, for what? Likely you're not going to stack it up before you ult, so it won't affect that. Your passive isn't that huge later on, and Shiv/Wit's procs are really reliant on the item. I still say you're better just getting AD/Crit rather than a pseudo on-hit style.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
July 23 2013 21:25 GMT
#624
To revive an older topic: is anyone playing support GP these days?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 23 2013 21:26 GMT
#625
On July 24 2013 04:03 Complete wrote:
just for the record with the shiv/witts build I usually end up with literally 50% physical 50% magic damage to champs at the end of the game.

Question: If you're vs AP tops should you build witts before shiv?

I really like keeping parrlay at lvl 1 but having statik shiv procs every time I parrlay. It feels like I can just get a good trade off, eat oj, then Q them a bunch and effectively keep them low. Only problem is you need some extra wards as you push a lot.

yes, you should go wits before shiv against ap tops (the guide also recommends this).
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 23:24:05
July 23 2013 23:20 GMT
#626
On July 24 2013 06:12 Requizen wrote:
Well, for what? Likely you're not going to stack it up before you ult, so it won't affect that. Your passive isn't that huge later on, and Shiv/Wit's procs are really reliant on the item. I still say you're better just getting AD/Crit rather than a pseudo on-hit style.


You get off 3 stacks in like half a second, so of course it'll effect your ult. We're talking about getting it as your first item, so it's not like it's late game; your passive does plenty of damage. No idea what you mean by their procs being really reliant on the item. Also, it's not magic pen, it's MR steal. This makes it very effective against AP champions.
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 03:48:30
July 24 2013 03:48 GMT
#627
Korean GP build is fucking insane. Soo good
Ezkaton
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Japan416 Posts
July 24 2013 06:36 GMT
#628
This build is so much fuuuun

People think I'm trolling when I pick GP. Then I show them the power of Zeus

nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 24 2013 09:43 GMT
#629
On July 24 2013 06:25 Mauzel wrote:
To revive an older topic: is anyone playing support GP these days?

Hybrid red
Flat armor yellow
MR blue
Mix of HP/ GP10

Max E, harrass smart with melee/Q to refresh stacks. Ult after enemy commits
cool beans
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 24 2013 11:45 GMT
#630
On July 24 2013 04:05 Requizen wrote:
I wouldn't pick Wit's as GP's MR item. Merc's are probably going to be part of your build already, SV is a good choice, Bulwark is nice for your team, and Maw is better for farming/fighting/surviving. The new Spellbreaker item might be nice on him, will be better than Wit's by far,

Wit's End STEALS MR and you're playing tankplank anyway with this build after shiv/wits (which is a defensive item anyway...) and you have max w + merc + 22 defense with 3 in tenacious so you absolutely should be able to get stacks with auto q auto. It's extremely hard to itemize against a 50/50 split of magic and physical damage.

IMO try it out because Wit's End is absolutely core in this build. It increases the speed with which you stack your passive and makes your passive do more damage in addition to making you tankier, not to mention that with shiv and wits you'll be sparking lightning procs off really quickly in fights, which also do more damage because of the MR steal.

Req, you do know they changed Wit's End a few patches ago, right?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 24 2013 13:45 GMT
#631
On July 24 2013 20:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:05 Requizen wrote:
I wouldn't pick Wit's as GP's MR item. Merc's are probably going to be part of your build already, SV is a good choice, Bulwark is nice for your team, and Maw is better for farming/fighting/surviving. The new Spellbreaker item might be nice on him, will be better than Wit's by far,

Wit's End STEALS MR and you're playing tankplank anyway with this build after shiv/wits (which is a defensive item anyway...) and you have max w + merc + 22 defense with 3 in tenacious so you absolutely should be able to get stacks with auto q auto. It's extremely hard to itemize against a 50/50 split of magic and physical damage.

IMO try it out because Wit's End is absolutely core in this build. It increases the speed with which you stack your passive and makes your passive do more damage in addition to making you tankier, not to mention that with shiv and wits you'll be sparking lightning procs off really quickly in fights, which also do more damage because of the MR steal.

Req, you do know they changed Wit's End a few patches ago, right?

I didn't really pay attention to it, interesting for sure.

So I didn't look at the overall build, is this really a Shiv -> Tankplank build that everyone is raving about? I never thought Tankplank was anything special. Certainly not strong enough to straight carry a game, generally not strong enough to even man up and win lane. Then again, it could have been my build/choices that gave me that feeling. I'll check it out, thanks.
It's your boy Guzma!
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 24 2013 15:09 GMT
#632
I don't know how you can not get crushed in lane if you buy shiv first. How is a zeal or an avarice blade going to help you when the opposite laner will force trades ? Gp is already kinda weak in lane and relies a lot on maxing W to survive so ... I really don't know how you can survive in lane with that build. New wits seems interesting though but you will build it only if your opponent is ap.
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 15:29:16
July 24 2013 15:28 GMT
#633
On July 25 2013 00:09 RouaF wrote:
I don't know how you can not get crushed in lane if you buy shiv first. How is a zeal or an avarice blade going to help you when the opposite laner will force trades ? Gp is already kinda weak in lane and relies a lot on maxing W to survive so ... I really don't know how you can survive in lane with that build. New wits seems interesting though but you will build it only if your opponent is ap.


GP has the highest base HP at lvl1 and with Q and passive stacks u can win all in (if u have ignite) against almost everyone... at lvl 1.
At lvls 2-5 u can trade with some champs, and if u cant then u should just use Q for farming and heal with maxing W. After lvl 6 u will probably lose to anyone so I focus on getting farm at tower. There comes dangerous timing when u dont have shiv and ur opponent can kill u, so u have to hug the tower and farm. After u got the shiv everything change. (It works for me but im in gold so keep that in mind).
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 24 2013 19:43 GMT
#634
Yeah no offence but I'd really like some feedback from someone who pulled this shit at diamond level. I play quite a lot of gp and even on my plat smurf I had a really hard time with this build. Maybe I just did it wrong but I've had much more success with a tears/cdr build.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 24 2013 22:59 GMT
#635
That guide is from someone in diamond in Korea.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
commandchild
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 03:12:03
July 25 2013 02:45 GMT
#636
Where is this Korean guide everyone is referencing?

Edit: Im sorry i'm literally blind and literally missed it.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 25 2013 02:49 GMT
#637
Literally on the previous page.
It's your boy Guzma!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#638
So, been playing some games with Gangplank, been doing pretty well, but it still feels like I'm weaker than I should be. Then I realise that my rune page didn't save properly, and I've been using no runes for the past few games. Whoops. Still went 4-0-12 in one of them.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
July 25 2013 05:21 GMT
#639
A fed gp can only be shut down by a well coordinated team with chains off cc.
When you play in pub:
1. Easy farming - check.
2. No coordinated team - check.

GP is still the best pub-stomper. YOHOHO!
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
July 25 2013 08:53 GMT
#640
On July 25 2013 11:45 commandchild wrote:
Where is this Korean guide everyone is referencing?

Edit: Im sorry i'm literally blind and literally missed it.


its okay i missed it too
im deaf
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