• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:41
CEST 04:41
KST 11:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1650 users

[Champion] Kayle - Page 5

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12 13 14 Next All
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 30 2011 16:55 GMT
#81
On July 01 2011 01:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
I get that rageblade is efficient, the problem is that it doesn't really give all that much benefit. There's a reason why you never see nidalee get rageblade in high elo tourneys like DH and such. It's, imo, kinda like a super-expensive Doran's item. Shitty stats overall, but priced so damn cost-effectively that it's a good item. The only difference between GRB and Doran's items is that GRB costs 2k, which is better off spent on a NLR + boots.


You get rageblade on 2 champs at this point in time that I can think of:

Nidalee and kayle.

Rageblade nidalee is an entirely different playstyle from deathcap nidalee.

Kayle benefits fully from rageblade and it's literally the perfect item for her. Why you wouldn't get it is beyond me.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 16:55 GMT
#82
On July 01 2011 01:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
I get that rageblade is efficient, the problem is that it doesn't really give all that much benefit. There's a reason why you never see nidalee get rageblade in high elo tourneys like DH and such. It's, imo, kinda like a super-expensive Doran's item. Shitty stats overall, but priced so damn cost-effectively that it's a good item. The only difference between GRB and Doran's items is that GRB costs 2k, which is better off spent on a NLR + boots.

The reason is that she doesn't actually use the AD or AS all that effectively in high level play. The difference with Kayle is that Kayle does use all the stats effectively.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 30 2011 17:12 GMT
#83
Kayle hasn't been remade yet, right?
Whaaaa?
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 30 2011 18:04 GMT
#84
question:

arpen, mpen or aspd marks?
cool beans
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 30 2011 18:54 GMT
#85
I used to get GRB every time when I play Kayle, but I just found rushing that triforce or even gunblade was more useful and I had better results with it. It's also pretty hard to maintain rageblade stacks at the early levels, since Kayle has a bit of a mana issue if you try to spam her spells.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 19:01 GMT
#86
On July 01 2011 03:04 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
question:

arpen, mpen or aspd marks?

Flat AD

I run AD on Reds and Yellows, Scaling AP Blues and Flat AP Quints. It's kinda hilarious how hard Q -> E hits at the early levels with this.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 30 2011 19:02 GMT
#87
On July 01 2011 04:01 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 03:04 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
question:

arpen, mpen or aspd marks?

Flat AD

I run AD on Reds and Yellows, Scaling AP Blues and Flat AP Quints. It's kinda hilarious how hard Q -> E hits at the early levels with this.

are you sure it wouldn't hit harder if you went mpen instead? Actually, I'm certain your Q would hit for way more if you went for mpen marks.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 19:07 GMT
#88
I honestly just copied some Kayle who did really well in one of my solo queue games and have not fully theorycrafted it out. There is currently a popular line of thinking about Flat Penetration on carries being an uphill battle that you're better off ignoring and just favoring AD. I mean, obviously the Q itself would hit harder with mpen than AD, but whether your complete burst package would be better with MPen is a lot trickier.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 30 2011 19:18 GMT
#89
Nayrt was going full ad items on her. Why not get started early with runes?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 30 2011 19:21 GMT
#90
Especially if you go full AD items it's much more efficient to go for apen or even aspd, normally if you only stack one stat it's much more efficient to go for a complementing stat rather than stack that stat even more.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 30 2011 19:23 GMT
#91
Yes, but Kayle also double dips on AD/AP stat bonuses. Meh, I dunno, I just like seeing 300/500 for my AD/AP, that's literally the only reason I like playing Kayle right now :p.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 20:03:54
June 30 2011 19:59 GMT
#92
So Regi is going AP kayle right now on HSGG's stream. Granted, it's a troll game, but full on AP seems pretty damn strong and will only get better with kayle remake.

FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 30 2011 21:10 GMT
#93
I hope they don't change the AP ratio on Q, 1:1 ratio makes laning fun

anyway i've been greatly enjoying playing Kayle recently. I had a solo queue game where the rest of my team picked AD-based melee bruisers, and no one would take mid, so Kayle to the rescue and carry that shit fucking hard. there was an ezreal mid who had no idea what to do when my Q took 1/3 his hp at level 1 hahaha
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
June 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#94
before they remade kayle, when she was considered absolute trash, she was one of the strongest early game champs in the game, straight ap + mejai's was a fun build on her. basically like ap tristana where you had to end it early but instead of having to wait for your ult you just spammed Q for absurd burst
Brees on in
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
July 01 2011 01:41 GMT
#95
AP Kayle is crazy. I've been playing her almost exactly the way I play AP teemo.

Couple D-rings and super early sorc shoes, rush DFG then deathcap. Early game obviously just start Qing ur opponent in the face at lvl3 over and over again. Q->E swoosh swoosh swoosh! You are sooooo fast with your W, it's awesome. With ignite and your ult you can dive the crap out of people very often.

Late game you're an ult-bot and assassin. DFG+Q+swooshswoosh and you do ridiculous damage. Though honestly almost any champ can rush DFG and AP and do hilarious single target burst.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 01 2011 03:01 GMT
#96
My brother was bored and made a spreadsheet for Kayle's DPS based on possible item builds.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtY_0vC9q4GEdGhNQ2xLN2JvMGJ2V01QRUk4NGlfclE&hl=en_US
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 01 2011 04:57 GMT
#97
Can you get stats for GRB + Wit's End and GRB + Stark's?
ô¿ô
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 03 2011 01:20 GMT
#98
Kayle owning up troll games on ESL streams is quickly becoming fotm. All because of one skill :X

I'm curious about the runes, I would go mpen reds mp5/18 yellows ap/18 blues and mpen quints but I'm hoping for some funky op runeset for her to show up.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 03 2011 01:40 GMT
#99
I'm running mpen quints, arp marks, mp5/lv seals and ap/lv glyphs. It's pretty sick, just don't show them that you're leveling q until 4 and then all of a sudden BOOM start slapping them for 1/2 their hp per nuke-auto.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#100
Kayle tier 2 in rainman tier list lolololol



http://solomid.net/blog.php?v=9106
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:15
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs MaxPax
Maru vs Zoun
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs TBD
PiGStarcraft493
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft564
RuFF_SC2 176
NeuroSwarm 131
PiLiPiLi 13
Nina 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 38
NaDa 26
LancerX 16
Icarus 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever723
League of Legends
JimRising 528
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox499
Other Games
gofns15798
summit1g11689
tarik_tv8071
C9.Mang0660
Trikslyr174
WinterStarcraft134
Maynarde93
ViBE52
Livibee37
Mew2King33
amsayoshi26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick948
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH277
• Hupsaiya 62
• davetesta21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo353
Other Games
• Scarra1438
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
19m
CranKy Ducklings
7h 19m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
8h 19m
SC Evo League
10h 49m
IPSL
13h 19m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
16h 19m
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
19h 19m
CranKy Ducklings
21h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 8h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 12h
BSL
1d 16h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
1d 16h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.