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sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
November 04 2010 21:41 GMT
#41
I like to play kayle really hybrid like if my team allows:

D-Ring
Boots + Blasting Wand
Guinsoo's
Zerkers
Malady
R/G/B Pots
Gunblade

I really like Gunblade on her, she has like 250+ AD/AP with full stacks and these items. What follow ups do you guys like to do after her core?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 04 2010 22:52 GMT
#42
On November 05 2010 01:02 azndsh wrote:
currently running:

flat HP/ArPen quints
ArPen red
mp5/lvl yellow
AP/lvl blue

Did the math on a spreadsheet before, and I'm 100% sure that GRB + ghostblade (active) gives about as much dps as GRB+IE or GRB+MBR and noticeably more than GRB+nashor. of course, nashor gives CDR and mana regen, so it's not without it's uses. zhonya is terrible for dps. GRB + ghostblade + triple pot gives by far more dps than any other itemization for close to the same amount of gold.


My only problem with the Ghostblade build is that team fights last more than 8 seconds, and sometimes they happen more often than every 60 seconds(or at least, there's some kind of skirmish, some chasing, a little regrouping, another skirmish, we've all been around something like that). You end up having to choose when to use the active(ideally when your GRB is stacked), and hope that's not also coinciding with the time they want to force your ult+escape(or god forbid they forced your hand and you ulted someone else, and then have to actually play a more typical passive positional carry). There's a ton of situations where you have to 'choose' to activate ghostblade, and then you have 'wasted' gold for the next minute(forced fight on tower, do you rush to blow it up, save the active for when their carry engages, etc).

Maybe this is my admission that I'd rather not make decisions I don't have to because it's not the strongest part of my game, but I just think IE works better. have yet to find a build that I find more 'fluent' than the GRB+IE build, even if it takes a little longer(1200 gold) to farm up. Forego your first round of elixirs and you almost get that gold right there.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2010 22:55 GMT
#43
How does Kayle's E interact with crits? I assume the +magic damage can't crit, but does the physical crit scale into the splash damage?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51660 Posts
November 05 2010 00:26 GMT
#44
what do people think of hgb with kayle? i know i asked this a while ago but i want to know if the opinion is still the same now.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 00:34:18
November 05 2010 00:32 GMT
#45
On November 05 2010 09:26 GTR wrote:
what do people think of hgb with kayle? i know i asked this a while ago but i want to know if the opinion is still the same now.


tbh, i'd rather have a critfinity than an htb, granted thats a 1k gold difference, but w/e

the vamp is kinda wasted imo, but otherwise its fine i guess, you certainly cant go wrong with it. Def goes after guinsoo's + zerks core ofc

edit: also new malady is pretty sweet, new malady > nashors imo, unless you're getting nashor's specifically for the cdr, which is kinda dumb given its price
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#46
On November 05 2010 09:26 GTR wrote:
what do people think of hgb with kayle? i know i asked this a while ago but i want to know if the opinion is still the same now.


It depends on the enemy team comp. If they're very tanky then I'd go for gunblade for the leech. Otherwise infinity edge + last whisper is pretty much 1000x better against other carries and casters
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
November 06 2010 03:40 GMT
#47
On November 05 2010 09:26 GTR wrote:
what do people think of hgb with kayle? i know i asked this a while ago but i want to know if the opinion is still the same now.



hextech gunblade looks like a really awesome item for kayle on paper, since u get both ap/ad, which then again double dip each other to get some extra from the passive, the slow from gunblade is not quite as useful to have since kayle already has a slow herself, the lifesteal are a good bonus to have i suppose...maybe u should try gunblade + LW instead of IE to see how it goes?

haven't played kayle for a long time now so i'm not quite sure..
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
November 06 2010 07:32 GMT
#48
i'm currently experimenting with malady/wits end / yoomus on alot of heroes, kayle included

basically at this point grb is a need, the second item could be any attackspeed item, third is inf edge. wits end is so underrated on a lot of heroes, it's extremely efficient for it's cost if they have mana. i'm still not sold on malady, i think wits end is just as good. yoomus seems like an amazing item for kayle. i'm not liking starks and nashors as much anymore because nashors is very little damage and a ton of gold for cdr and attack speed, and starks should always be situational depending on how many carries you have imo.

i'm a general note i really think wits end is underrated. it's a good item for mid game carries because it's so damn efficient, just the attackspeed and manaburn itself is worth the cost and you get some mr while you're at it. it's really good on most melee carries and a lot of ranged carries that might not scale as well into the late game, e.g. teemo kayle maybe even tf. it's actually amazing on kog maw as well.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 06 2010 19:10 GMT
#49
Hextech as a lategame items isn't as bad as a lot of people act. :/
I actually really like it. Makes me hit like more of a truck and I get some health back too from the lifesteal/spellvamp. Plus you get a second slow. Your q does have a cooldown you know.
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Metronome
Profile Joined October 2008
United States98 Posts
December 07 2010 20:11 GMT
#50
Does the ghostblade last 8 seconds with E up now that it counts as a ranged attack with the new patch?
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 07 2010 20:32 GMT
#51
On December 08 2010 05:11 Metronome wrote:
Does the ghostblade last 8 seconds with E up now that it counts as a ranged attack with the new patch?


counts as ranged attack :/
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Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 02:43:35
December 08 2010 02:42 GMT
#52
Might Be in favor of a Malady now after RB then a GB.

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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 08 2010 03:06 GMT
#53
On November 07 2010 04:10 BlackPaladin wrote:
Hextech as a lategame items isn't as bad as a lot of people act. :/
I actually really like it. Makes me hit like more of a truck and I get some health back too from the lifesteal/spellvamp. Plus you get a second slow. Your q does have a cooldown you know.

But I mean... it basically comes down to "do I want an IE or a gunblade" and on any ranged carry, hybrid or not, my answer is "IE".
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 08 2010 04:53 GMT
#54
gunblade scales really really stupidly well with Kayle atm though. I don't think I can hold it against anyone to go for Gunblade tbh.
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Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
December 08 2010 05:04 GMT
#55
I just bought Kayle and now my question is, what's wrong with her? She seems like a pretty awesome champ after my two test games but I never see her. I think I see her once in 100 games. So why is she so underplayed?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 08 2010 05:08 GMT
#56
On December 08 2010 14:04 Stealthpenguin wrote:
I just bought Kayle and now my question is, what's wrong with her? She seems like a pretty awesome champ after my two test games but I never see her. I think I see her once in 100 games. So why is she so underplayed?

There are better supports and better ranged carries and she's a huge farm hog.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 08 2010 06:23 GMT
#57
My typical kayle build for solo queue where I will take mid and get riddicolously fed (pre patch nerf, if she was nerfed recently)
d-ring
rageblade
zerker boots
stinger
HGB
finish nashors
triforce
replace d-ring with something like GA, Banshees or Frozenheart and pump
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Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
April 15 2011 02:39 GMT
#58
So after watching some streams and seeing kayle do well, I really want to know how to play her. I used to play her alot, but after playing her a couple times, i found that i'm not very good with her right now >.>
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eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
April 15 2011 03:48 GMT
#59
she pretty weak now imo she was overnerfed by riots great champion balance
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
April 16 2011 16:23 GMT
#60
It kinda sucks before you could just rageblade and triple pot and now triple pot is nerfed =[
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