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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
Blizzard wants Terran to be able mix mech/bio/air. Solution Split mech upgrades so that Terran need to upgrade from four armouries (100 gas each) in order to upgrade air and ground. Plus 2 engineering bay if they wish to mix in bio as well. Discussion Are Blizzard trying to troll us? If their goal was to prevent mixing different unit types I could understand this move but since their goal is the opposite, it does not make sense. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On May 29 2015 02:16 MockHamill wrote: Goal Blizzard wants Terran to be able mix mech/bio/air. Solution Split mech upgrades so that Terran need to upgrade from four armouries (100 gas each) in order to upgrade air and ground. Plus 2 engineering bay if they wish to mix in bio as well. Discussion Are Blizzard trying to troll us? If their goal was to prevent mixing different unit types I could understand this move but since their goal is the opposite, it does not make sense. I think only the Mech Weapon upgrades got seperated. So we only need 3 armories  . I don´t think this is too bad. I play Terran myself (Mech mostly) and didn´t like it that players in lower leagues who go bio suddenly can have 3-3 on their few Tanks or any supportive Mech Unit just because its easier to access.On May 29 2015 02:24 Naphal wrote: the aa attack of the new unit looks a bit weird to me, also why liberator in english and Falke (falcon) in german? Because it sounds alot better and "Terran-ish" than Befreier or Erlöser (Liberator). Altough it somehow fits the Unit to "liberate" us from pesky Mutas. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 29 2015 02:37 Tresher wrote: I think only the Mech Weapon upgrades got seperated. So we only need 3 armories . I don´t think this is too bad. I play Terran myself (Mech mostly) and didn´t like it that players in lower leagues who go bio suddenly can have 3-3 on their few Tanks or any supportive Mech Unit just because its easier to access.Because it sounds alot better and "Terran-ish" than Befreier or Erlöser (Liberator). Altough it somehow fits the Unit to "liberate" us from pesky Mutas. How well does the Falke fit in with the rest of the German-language units? | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 29 2015 02:24 Naphal wrote: the aa attack of the new unit looks a bit weird to me, also why liberator in english and Falke (falcon) in german? I would have preferred Falcon over Liberator honestly ;D, so be glad! | ||
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bigbadgreen
United States142 Posts
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On May 29 2015 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote: How well does the Falke fit in with the rest of the German-language units? Quite well actually. If you click on "Einheiten" (Units) you can see all the german names. http://eu.battle.net/sc2/de/game/ Some names aren´t even translated like Raven -> Rabe. Some Units are not literally translated like Zealot -> Berserker but are ok. But Blizzard is quite good with translating things. Every small decal or other things that contain texts are translated. They always make it so that the translation contains some "uniqeness" of the translated language. Like SCVs have more of a southern state accent and in german they have a heavy Berlin accent. They also took the German Voice Actor from Arnold Schwarzenegger for the Thor which is awesome. On May 29 2015 02:44 MockHamill wrote: No they have splitted the mech upgrades into 4 mech upgrades, log into the game and see for yourself. Well I would if I had a damn Beta Key -_- . Also they should really check the wording when writing these patch notes. It clearly says "Weapon Upgrades" and not Armor Upgrades on the Bnet site. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On May 29 2015 03:03 bigbadgreen wrote: I think the combined mech upgrades made terran a bit too adaptable. They could combine them again but it should either have a slightly longer build time or cost a bit more. With the split they are going about it in a round about way. You don't need 4 armories going at once, it forces a choice. Zerg has all of their upgrades split. I'm not advocating to combine zerg upgrades here but it would be similar if upgrading ranged attack for ground also upgraded air attack as well. I think it should stay split to force a priority choice by the player based on what he is seeing from his opponent. Terran is already the race the have the hardest time tech switching. They cannot suddenly switch between marines, tanks and viking depending on what they scout. Having 6 upgrades instead of 4 will make it even harder. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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TT1
Canada10086 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:56 purakushi wrote: Just need an updated BW interface like http://i.imgur.com/cmgDb.png amazingballs | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2663 Posts
On May 29 2015 03:03 bigbadgreen wrote: I think the combined mech upgrades made terran a bit too adaptable. They could combine them again but it should either have a slightly longer build time or cost a bit more. With the split they are going about it in a round about way. You don't need 4 armories going at once, it forces a choice. Zerg has all of their upgrades split. I'm not advocating to combine zerg upgrades here but it would be similar if upgrading ranged attack for ground also upgraded air attack as well. I think it should stay split to force a priority choice by the player based on what he is seeing from his opponent. 1.- You can't choose based on what you see from an oponent, when you choose one you are forced to stay there. There is no choice, you choose wich ever is the strong in the current balance, period, at best they may be map dependant, but it doesn't really gives you a choice. 2.- Factory units are not really the best units in SC2, much like its predecesor BW mech, it depends on terrain, something that in SC2 means jack shit, theres nothing really to gain from that, in BW you had everything you needed it in 3 units but in SC2 not, thors are not the best AA there is, they are an awful unit; tanks, well, I don't think we have to say how bad tanks, but they can be picked up!... with a starport unit; hellion and hellbats are good at what they do but what they do is very constricted specially since hellbats need medivacs so much; WM, sigh, probably not the best unit to have with mech, good for bio but not useful for mech because even if tanks and thors are good they are better once you have enough, the only good point of WM is the fast burst damage they do, wich again makes them good with bio but not mech; and finally the cyclone, probably blizzard only hope to make Factory an autonomous tech tree, I hope they don't fuck that up. 3.- Gas, mech is already the single most gas heavy composition in the game, add to that the fact that armories cost gas, unlike ebays evos and forges, and getting so many upgrades is imposible, even in HotS most players go sinle armory because of the gas cost of everything. In the end nor do I think starport will be an autonomous composition, probably hybrid but it will be weird thats for sure, nor do I think mech its in a state to be viable without starport units, unless heavy turtling is involved, so whatever blizzard does I hope they solve all that. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On May 28 2015 10:21 pure.Wasted wrote: It has barely begun. Blizzard has proven time and again that constant negative feedback is the only thing that DOES help. It took IMBAIMBAIMBA for them to fix Broodlord/Infestor, it took ZParCraft for them to fix Protoss, it took an entire beta's worth of complaints for the Warhound to get the axe, and it took 5 years of bitching and moaning for the Colossus to finally get replaced. "Change it or we riot" is the only kind of language Blizzard seems to understand when it comes to multiplayer design. The colossus was replaced? Am I dreaming? Because that sounds too good to be true. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 29 2015 04:56 DemigodcelpH wrote: The colossus was replaced? Am I dreaming? Because that sounds too good to be true. Still here, just nerfed and everyone uses the Disruptor instead or in conjunction so it's practically gone. Ish maybe. | ||
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TT1
Canada10086 Posts
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NiDoXiD
Germany28 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:56 purakushi wrote: Just need an updated BW interface like http://i.imgur.com/cmgDb.png Seconded. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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TT1
Canada10086 Posts
On May 29 2015 07:32 FeyFey wrote: wait they call the liberator Falke in german lol. I know what they want to avoid by this but Falke is such a bad choice ... I mean does this unit behave like a falcon ? >.< falcon/eagle, the liberator, anti communist unit... MURICA? | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On May 29 2015 03:39 MockHamill wrote: Terran is already the race the have the hardest time tech switching. They cannot suddenly switch between marines, tanks and viking depending on what they scout. Having 6 upgrades instead of 4 will make it even harder. Terran is also a race that needs to tech switch the least out of all three races. There is a reason that they can't do it easily. | ||
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crown77
United States157 Posts
it's frustrating... they seemed to have done some major work on the cyclone ai its a lot better at killing interceptors but its frustrating not to be able to shoot the units i want to... the interceptors get prioritized to the point where i can't tell the cyclones to change target | ||
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