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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here. Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk. |
On March 31 2015 07:30 royalroadweed wrote:
After playing around with the cyclone more I've come to realize that it more than just a vulture + goliath. Its a vulture + goliath + seige tank. Fast movement speed, good anti-air and it also has long range and high damage. The cyclone is everything strong about brood war mech (the exception being the map control vultures and spider mines provided), with none of its weaknesses. It might be a perfect unit. Its only drawback is its cost, with isn't high enough to make them unmassable.
I don't think it should be good at all of those things.
So basically it's another version of the warhound. A massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness, which was scrapped because, it's a massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness.
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On March 31 2015 07:45 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 07:30 royalroadweed wrote:
After playing around with the cyclone more I've come to realize that it more than just a vulture + goliath. Its a vulture + goliath + seige tank. Fast movement speed, good anti-air and it also has long range and high damage. The cyclone is everything strong about brood war mech (the exception being the map control vultures and spider mines provided), with none of its weaknesses. It might be a perfect unit. Its only drawback is its cost, with isn't high enough to make them unmassable.
I don't think it should be good at all of those things. So basically it's another version of the warhound. A massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness, which was scrapped because, it's a massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness.
Sadly a good summary. I'm pretty sure something called cyclone will make it to the final game because T just won't take another Warhound removal, but that something won't look like what we've got atm at all.
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Zealots are looking so weak in the unit test map, is there any composition the manlots are good against? looks like every unit in the game with an attack stat can outright kill or kite them cost for cost.
Zerglings with the new 40% atk speed upgrade are amazing, me gusta.
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Zerglings with the new 40% atk speed upgrade are amazing, me gusta.
Is there a compiled list of these changes? Feels like i missed a memo! :D
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On March 31 2015 07:58 Cyro wrote:Is there a compiled list of these changes? Feels like i missed a memo! :D
it's the adrenal glands upgrade, it just got a lot better ^^
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Interesting...thanks for sharing this. The balance is going to completely change constantly as the beta begins so no worries :p
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cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over
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On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over
I have these same feelings man lol
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On March 31 2015 07:57 rpgalon wrote:
Zealots are looking so weak in the unit test map, is there any composition the manlots are good against? looks like every unit in the game with an attack stat can outright kill or kite them cost for cost.
Zerglings with the new 40% atk speed upgrade are amazing, me gusta.
the brood war in me is crying tears of joy...ANYONE IN GOLD NA, YOU'RE FUCKED
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On March 31 2015 08:16 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 07:57 rpgalon wrote:
Zealots are looking so weak in the unit test map, is there any composition the manlots are good against? looks like every unit in the game with an attack stat can outright kill or kite them cost for cost.
Zerglings with the new 40% atk speed upgrade are amazing, me gusta. the brood war in me is crying tears of joy...ANYONE IN GOLD NA, YOU'RE FUCKED
Its stronger. In brood war I think it was a 33% increase.
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On March 31 2015 07:16 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote:
I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. You want to have Brood War with better graphics. Sorry to disappoint.
Criticise if you want but this will bring more viewers to sc2 than Blizzard's two attempts (WoL and HotS). We'll see about LotV though. It's kind of promising for now. We just need more 'back and forth' actions to make this game nicer not one or two battles which decide the whole game.
Edit: Anyone misses dragoons? I've felt for a long time that stalkers are just a joke vs mutalisks. Is adept supposed to fill that role?
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On March 31 2015 08:16 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 07:57 rpgalon wrote:
Zealots are looking so weak in the unit test map, is there any composition the manlots are good against? looks like every unit in the game with an attack stat can outright kill or kite them cost for cost.
Zerglings with the new 40% atk speed upgrade are amazing, me gusta. the brood war in me is crying tears of joy...ANYONE IN GOLD NA, YOU'RE FUCKED
We'll be seeing numerous cracklings on ladder.
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Thanks for the list!
I noticed he wrote "disruptor does damage to buildings. bug?!?!"
I remember seeing in one of the blizzard videos, disruptors being used to break bunkers at the top of a terran ramp to attack. That seems intentional (regardless of if it's a good idea or not)
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On March 31 2015 08:13 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over I have these same feelings man lol
I'm sorry, what are you talking about haha? I'm not really following SC2 scene from that close so I might be missing something there. Mech is strong atm?
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On March 31 2015 08:42 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 08:13 GGzerG wrote:On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over I have these same feelings man lol I'm sorry, what are you talking about haha? I'm not really following SC2 scene from that close so I might be missing something there. Mech is strong atm?
Probably just irony.
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On March 31 2015 08:42 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 08:13 GGzerG wrote:On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over I have these same feelings man lol I'm sorry, what are you talking about haha? I'm not really following SC2 scene from that close so I might be missing something there. Mech is strong atm?
not exactly strong, it's just retarded beyond comprehension if you're not very confident and patient against it, which only a few players on this fuckin earth are.. oh and then theres forgg being a faggot with his 10+ hellbat/banshee/medievac/marine/thor/whatever awkward unit composition timing attacks reviving his career and inspiring tons of terrans on ladder to doing the same thing and its making me really really really salty
User was warned for this post
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Nice
There are a lot of things i didn't know were changed. Balance is going to be so crazy at the start haha.
According to reddit the Colossus range is 8 with thermal lance and the damage is down from 15 to 12. I remember seeing the range nerf but not that damage nerf.
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On March 31 2015 08:51 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 08:42 ZenithM wrote:On March 31 2015 08:13 GGzerG wrote:On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over I have these same feelings man lol I'm sorry, what are you talking about haha? I'm not really following SC2 scene from that close so I might be missing something there. Mech is strong atm? not exactly strong, it's just retarded beyond comprehension if you're not very confident and patient against it, which only a few players on this fuckin earth are.. oh and then theres forgg being a faggot with his 10+ hellbat/banshee/medievac/marine/thor/whatever awkward unit composition timing attacks reviving his career and inspiring tons of terrans on ladder to doing the same thing and its making me really really really salty
Mech is here to stay. Why don't you learn to play the game
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On March 31 2015 09:00 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 08:51 Aocowns wrote:On March 31 2015 08:42 ZenithM wrote:On March 31 2015 08:13 GGzerG wrote:On March 31 2015 08:09 Aocowns wrote:
cant wait for this retarded mech bullshit to be over I have these same feelings man lol I'm sorry, what are you talking about haha? I'm not really following SC2 scene from that close so I might be missing something there. Mech is strong atm? not exactly strong, it's just retarded beyond comprehension if you're not very confident and patient against it, which only a few players on this fuckin earth are.. oh and then theres forgg being a faggot with his 10+ hellbat/banshee/medievac/marine/thor/whatever awkward unit composition timing attacks reviving his career and inspiring tons of terrans on ladder to doing the same thing and its making me really really really salty Mech is here to stay. Why don't you learn to play the game
oh yes let me just put on my magical learning hat and learn it in 1-2-3 it's just that easy thats why top level pros are shit at it too
and no, mech in its current form is gone as soon as LOTV comes around(why? because its retarded and no one but goody and lillekanin likes it)
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