EPTLotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 73
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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here. Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:06 darkness wrote: What I don't understand is why Blizzard makes Terran bio shit against zerg's late game. Maybe it's time to buff ghosts' snipes again? That or tanks should be much stronger. Lol because it's kinda stupid how Terran Bio craps all over Zerg Tier 3. And it's kinda rash to think Terran won't get a way to compensate. Chill, Terran will get the needed adjustments. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:02 Dingobloo wrote: To be fair, the war hound didn't have splash either. I'd like to see how it works in real games but my guess is that it's going to be very strong, it's very well rounded, as I think was the design intent but the lock on ability seem like a better fit for a unit that's more of a glass canon. It seems to have some decent counters on the Z and maybe even P side the way it interacts with mobility but often the best thing to do when it locks on is to run away and the cooldown doesn't give enough time to capitalize on that. For TvT it just seems to kill anything that isn't a battlecruiser supply for supply, seeing it lock onto a tank then run out of siege range pelting it down despite svc's repairing the tank is a little depressing. personally I see no way for protoss to deal with cyclone rushes early on, maybe adept will help? zerg can deal pretty easy if they get ling speed, its had to do without though...ill be interested to see how people will use cyclones in the mid and late game if at all | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:08 SNSeigifried wrote: https://twitter.com/ZoeviaBlizzard/status/582710002768449536 at least they are more specific and give updates as opposed to hearthstone expansions | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On March 31 2015 09:44 ETisME wrote: It doesn't have aoe and is pretty expensive. Warhound problem is that it could deal with everything early game too well and makes it snowball too hard. I don't see this happening with cyclone at all The warhound didn't have splash and pure warhound beat literally every unit composition on the ground, while killing you in 2 seconds if you were foolish enough to build air due to sheer strength and speed. It wasn't a problem of they kill stuff early game, it was just the best unit to build at all points in the game was warhounds. If you were getting rushed, warhounds. If you wanted to take a third base? Warhounds. Wanna go max supply? Warhounds. Lost a fight? Not enough warhounds. I've not watched this video again but if memory serves, i shouldn't have to (: | ||
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RaymondFish
United States42 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:57 Cyro wrote: The warhound didn't have splash and pure warhound beat literally every unit composition on the ground, while killing you in 2 seconds if you were foolish enough to build air due to sheer strength and speed. It wasn't a problem of they kill stuff early game, it was just the best unit to build at all points in the game was warhounds. If you were getting rushed, warhounds. If you wanted to take a third base? Warhounds. Wanna go max supply? Warhounds. Lost a fight? Not enough warhounds. I've not watched this video again but if memory serves, i shouldn't have to (: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8VKon9F-zM HA, i had never seen this video! the devs must've really been on something to think this would be a good unit. glad they came to their senses. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On March 31 2015 11:11 RaymondFish wrote: HA, i had never seen this video! the devs must've really been on something to think this would be a good unit. glad they came to their senses. They put a big focus on making mech TvP work in HOTS - and then just kinda abandoned it when removing the warhound. I was kinda sad about that because PvT vs bio is my least favorite of the 9 matchups - i never managed to get rid of the feeling of either being a god or being helpless | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:08 SNSeigifried wrote: https://twitter.com/ZoeviaBlizzard/status/582710002768449536 Nice Of course as soon as i go to bed, it will be accidentally launched 5 hours early. | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:02 royalroadweed wrote: Marines are short range and fragile. They need support to be effective. It isn't 2010 anymore. ignore mech. just give marine range upgrade. like +5 range | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:04 fried_rice wrote: I'm just joking :D Maybe blizzard wants to add a well rounded factory unit, analogue to marines? To be fair I have no idea how Blizzard comes up with these ideas for units. It seems they just come up with random stuff instead of actually analyzing what each race needs. Yes. Otherwise, they'd have given protoss some ground unit to counter mutalisks. Stalkers and sentries don't really work vs large number of mutalisks. Storm doesn't work vs a zerg who knows what to do. Phoenixes is the only way. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On March 31 2015 11:18 Cyro wrote: They put a big focus on making mech TvP work in HOTS - and then just kinda abandoned it when removing the warhound. I was kinda sad about that because PvT vs bio is my least favorite of the 9 matchups - i never managed to get rid of the feeling of either being a god or being helpless To me they didn't focus on making mech viable. They focused on making mech more like bio. The warhound was like a beefed up, mechanical marauder on steroids that played nothing like a mech unit. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
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dashiz
Costa Rica193 Posts
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game. Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Colossus is nerfed heavily. Not just range, but it lost damage per attack too, which makes a big difference. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On March 31 2015 12:17 dashiz wrote: You already received your invite Jinro? No idea  We'll see once it goes live.I feel like I should get one just from having submitted all those 12309102391032 monthly community program reports in the run-up to WoL release tho D:!! | ||
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dashiz
Costa Rica193 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On March 31 2015 12:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Hm, I tried installing the client, and its just stuck at 'start install' with the little load thingy spinning incessantly. Maybe your internet is slow? It doesn't show download status until you download the beta client. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10890 Posts
On March 31 2015 10:08 SNSeigifried wrote: https://twitter.com/ZoeviaBlizzard/status/582710002768449536 Sleep? What is this thing you speak of. | ||
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On March 31 2015 09:05 Aocowns wrote: oh yes let me just put on my magical learning hat and learn it in 1-2-3 it's just that easy thats why top level pros are shit at it too and no, mech in its current form is gone as soon as LOTV comes around(why? because its retarded and no one but goody and lillekanin likes it) God forbid that Terran is allowed to choose from different playstyles. Bio for almost 5 years is not getting boring or anything like that. And saying only goody and lillekanin like Mech and is too easy (while its not) is a pretty ignorant thing to say. There are a lot of players who want Mech to be more viable (me included) besides turtling. Except that stupid avilo mass raven hide behind everything style. That needs to be gone. But the new Viper ability should do that. And the fact that you quote someone like Idra in your Sig speaks words about your attitude. | ||
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