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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 74

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12497 Posts
March 31 2015 04:16 GMT
#1461
On March 31 2015 10:57 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 09:44 ETisME wrote:
On March 31 2015 07:45 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 31 2015 07:30 royalroadweed wrote:
After playing around with the cyclone more I've come to realize that it more than just a vulture + goliath. Its a vulture + goliath + seige tank. Fast movement speed, good anti-air and it also has long range and high damage. The cyclone is everything strong about brood war mech (the exception being the map control vultures and spider mines provided), with none of its weaknesses. It might be a perfect unit. Its only drawback is its cost, with isn't high enough to make them unmassable.

I don't think it should be good at all of those things.

So basically it's another version of the warhound. A massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness, which was scrapped because, it's a massable unit designed to be good at everything with no real weakness.

It doesn't have aoe and is pretty expensive.
Warhound problem is that it could deal with everything early game too well and makes it snowball too hard.
I don't see this happening with cyclone at all


The warhound didn't have splash and pure warhound beat literally every unit composition on the ground, while killing you in 2 seconds if you were foolish enough to build air due to sheer strength and speed. It wasn't a problem of they kill stuff early game, it was just the best unit to build at all points in the game was warhounds. If you were getting rushed, warhounds. If you wanted to take a third base? Warhounds. Wanna go max supply? Warhounds. Lost a fight? Not enough warhounds.

I've not watched this video again but if memory serves, i shouldn't have to (:



Yes my point is that it's not like a siege tank because it doesn't "hold grounds" like a siege tank does.

Your point about warhound is more or less similar to mine, though I still think it's too strong in early game only.

Its like a reaper except it can apply way higher early game pressure and doesn't get weaker in any stage of the game.

If it was more of a siege tank (only becomes more viable in mid game and later on), I think it can be balanced with a few more patches.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 31 2015 04:30 GMT
#1462
On March 31 2015 12:54 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 12:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Hm, I tried installing the client, and its just stuck at 'start install' with the little load thingy spinning incessantly.


Maybe your internet is slow? It doesn't show download status until you download the beta client.

Oh so it's downloading BEFORE you can click start install? I thought the start install button would start the download.

My internet is beastly, but not so beastly as to be done in the short time I waited before concluding it was stuck
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
March 31 2015 04:31 GMT
#1463
On March 31 2015 13:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 12:54 darkness wrote:
On March 31 2015 12:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Hm, I tried installing the client, and its just stuck at 'start install' with the little load thingy spinning incessantly.


Maybe your internet is slow? It doesn't show download status until you download the beta client.

Oh so it's downloading BEFORE you can click start install? I thought the start install button would start the download.

My internet is beastly, but not so beastly as to be done in the short time I waited before concluding it was stuck


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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
March 31 2015 04:51 GMT
#1464
I just wanna say...happy beta day, friends.

I hope LotV is the Starcraft game all of the fans deserve.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 31 2015 05:00 GMT
#1465
Looking forward to seeing no beta invite tomorrow and being sad all day :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 31 2015 05:02 GMT
#1466
On March 31 2015 14:00 blade55555 wrote:
Looking forward to seeing no beta invite tomorrow and being sad all day :D


big ballin'!
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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
March 31 2015 05:09 GMT
#1467
Do you think Blizzard is going to wait until after Blackstone Mountain is done before giving me a beta key because they'll want me to play it?

Where is the loyalty?!
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
March 31 2015 05:25 GMT
#1468
On March 31 2015 14:00 blade55555 wrote:
Looking forward to seeing no beta invite tomorrow and being sad all day :D


Me too, blade, me too D:
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F0nze
Profile Joined March 2015
United States26 Posts
March 31 2015 05:41 GMT
#1469
How do you know if you're invited to the beta? :D
because I'm basically nobody...
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
March 31 2015 05:43 GMT
#1470
I assume this is okay to post



Enjoy~
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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
March 31 2015 05:49 GMT
#1471
Holy crap they are so good vs bio!
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ohmylanta1003
Profile Joined February 2015
United States128 Posts
March 31 2015 05:53 GMT
#1472
Holy ballsack. I never imagined them being able to take any of those fights.
DurtyDurtyMike
Profile Joined December 2013
Ireland12 Posts
March 31 2015 05:54 GMT
#1473
Interesting video. Adept good unit against light unit confirmed, marauders didn't want to die against them. Will be awesome to see the types of micro that people use with them.
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GiveMeCake
Profile Joined October 2010
148 Posts
March 31 2015 05:54 GMT
#1474
good vs bio, or good vs light??
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 06:01:59
March 31 2015 06:01 GMT
#1475
On March 31 2015 14:54 GiveMeCake wrote:
good vs bio, or good vs light??

Bonus damage vs light, which would include Sentries and Hellions.

It's interesting to see pure Adept armies tested, but it's more reasonable that they'll just be mixed in with other Gateway units for the extra bit of DPS against light units. It wouldn't be too unlikely that they'll get buffed or reworked somehow during the beta.
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
March 31 2015 06:03 GMT
#1476
On March 31 2015 14:41 F0nze wrote:
How do you know if you're invited to the beta? :D
because I'm basically nobody...


Blizzard will send you email .
AKMU / IU
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 06:04:16
March 31 2015 06:03 GMT
#1477
On March 31 2015 14:54 GiveMeCake wrote:
good vs bio, or good vs light??


From what I tested it seems they're incredibly good vs early game 1 factory builds.

So for example, in the current meta it is incredibly common to have 1 medivac, a few mines, ~8 marines. If you expo as protoss and make adepts you'd be perfectly fine vs this type of push. Currently, with stalkers, you have a bit of trouble when you have to split to defend vs marines and mines. However, a couple adepts, which are cheaper, could handle all of these light unit, early game pushes incredibly effectively.

Now that said, it is also very common to see a 2 medivac mixed bio push at ~10minutes in PvT. Generally there is marauders mixed in there and from the video you can see when adepts finally get down to those guys their effectiveness decreases significantly. This essentially means that you can't mass just adepts. That doesn't mean they don't have an effective place in the late game army, though. In fact, I see them being mixed in as a potentially great thing to late game protoss armies.
Zealots > Adepts > Stalkers > Colo
It adds quite a varied range of units with different attack distances.

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 06:12:39
March 31 2015 06:04 GMT
#1478
On March 31 2015 14:54 GiveMeCake wrote:
good vs bio, or good vs light??


They get the bonus vs. light.

Which is why they sucked so hard against the marauders and not the marines.

Looking at the stats against non-light units they have a pitiful 4.4 dps (this is less than a sentry..)

whereas against light they have a dps of 10.2 (little less than a stimmed marine)
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 06:18:05
March 31 2015 06:13 GMT
#1479
Adept+immortal new meta?

Looking at the stats against non-light units they have a pitiful 4.4 dps (this is less than a sentry..)


Hey. Sentries out-dps stalkers vs light units

Can they shoot up? (adepts)
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 31 2015 06:17 GMT
#1480
Ouch Adepts seem so good vs light and so bad vs armored
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